Tusker Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I've known and admired Rai Thistlethwaite but this outfit is new to me. What's their story? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I’ve been a fan of these guys since they appeared on Snarky Puppy’s Family Dinner Vol. 2. dB 3 Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnchop Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Knower Rulez. And Louis Cole’s solo stuff has some quirky cool bits. 2 Quote I make software noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I'm a big fan of Knower Louis Cole & Genevieve Artadi create some really interesting music. Here's their latest.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Tatum Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Nice music, but I wish the singer would enunciate more. Couldn't make out one word of the lyrics except "I'm The President", because I saw it in the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Louis Cole is insane. Great stuff. I had no idea they did a number with Snarky! 1 Quote "The Angels of Libra are in the European vanguard of the [retro soul] movement" (Bill Buckley, Soul and Jazz and Funk) The Drawbars | off jazz organ trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Number Four Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I love their stuff, including the whole album from last year I saw them live recently, and it was just Louis and Genevieve duo plus tracks and video. I think that's part of their stripped-down postmodern shtick, but I'd love to hear something more like the full acoustic band vibe like those house videos. But it was still nice to hear Louis play drums live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Funky AF. 1 Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyRude Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 watching these vids, and assuming they are playing live, it's wild to not see much in the way of iPads or sheet music anywhere - - how do they remember all these insane chord and timing changes? Super funkin' crazy! 1 Quote Some music I've recorded and played over the years with a few different bands Tommy Rude Soundcloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoB3 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Yyyyyep, for a while now. Be sure to check out everything. Way back when we bailed on a lame NAMM after-party show and went downtown LA to check em out at what looked like a movie theatre turned stage/music venue. Knower were absolutely slamming! You could tell they were making their own 'scene'. I think they've got more original-special going on than Snarky actually (has nothing to do with chops). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Towne Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 If there was any justice left, this would be one of the biggest acts in the world. 4 Quote Endorsing Artist/Ambassador for MAG Organs and Motion Sound Amplifiers, Organ player for SRT - www.srtgroove.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irena Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Louis is a great keyboardist as well--rhythmically amazing, and very tasty. Early pandemic I started transcribing snippets of his clav and synthbass playing to try and get some of it in my hands. (I wish I could say I have...) He's humble and articulate in interviews too. I can't think of a more interesting musician working right now. 1 Quote B/Midiboard/VirusKC/Matrix12/EX5/Maschine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveNathan Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I enjoyed their video of “Overtime”, especially because it included Rai. I can only listen to this style of playing in small bites though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adan Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 It is brilliant stuff. I've watched every video from Louis Cole and knower. But usually only once. Almost paradoxically, I find it inspiring and yet have no desire to put it in my playlist. Like a lot of visual art that I enjoy in a museum but would never put on my wall at home. 1 Quote Gigging: Crumar Mojo 61, Hammond SKPro Home: Vintage Vibe 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elif Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I follow them. Do Hot Girls Like Chords is pretty good too. The lyrics are hoot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reezekeys Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Incredible musicianship and interesting writing but I don't undertand humans wanting to make music that sounds like it's quantized in a sequencer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluMunk Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Definitely tight and well done... not music for me, though. Maybe I've become rigid and less adventurous, but music that disrupts rhythmic expectations consistently, and that seems to adhere rigidly to a "modal harmonies and complex dissonances are always better choices than expected harmonic changes and resolutions" ethos feels kind of gimicky and doesn't draw me in. One song (or half of one), and I can appreciate how hard it is and enjoy moments. More than a few minutes, though, and I'm exhausted, couldn't care less that the unison hits are cleverly hard to predict or that those chords full of 2nds are hard to hit so precisely, and am looking for something easier. They feel like an art school love child of Primus and Return to Forever (and yes, they're welcome to use that in their next liner notes). Super talented, but not my style. Then again, I may be the machine they're raging against. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Pretty impressive technically - particularly rhythmically - but just out of curiosity, what would you call this type of music? Progressive jazz/rock/funk fusion? Definitely not easy listening music... 1 Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthiola Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Knower rulez indeed. Also check out Clown Core with Louis Cole and Sam Gendel. It’s like Knower on steroids 😱 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthiola Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 And a bit of antidote 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoB3 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Threadslayer said: Pretty impressive technically - particularly rhythmically - but just out of curiosity, what would you call this type of music? Progressive jazz/rock/funk fusion? Definitely not easy listening music... Music. I think if we really want music to evolve we need to get away from the typical labelling and packaging systems. But there's not as much money for others to grab in their old hands sooo,...yeah. Just good music. Oh, and ***k the haters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I must be living under a rock or this is extremely obscure. I've never heard of any of this and I'm fascinated by it. I will be digging deeper. The interesting grooves and use of multiple keyboardists, the horn section, that bass player definitely has the cool facial expressions, LOL. I didn't come away with any memorable hooks, just sampling several of the videos in this thread. I was entertained! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 17 hours ago, Dave Number Four said: I love their stuff, including the whole album from last year I saw them live recently, and it was just Louis and Genevieve duo plus tracks and video. I think that's part of their stripped-down postmodern shtick, but I'd love to hear something more like the full acoustic band vibe like those house videos. But it was still nice to hear Louis play drums live. Thanks #4! I totally appreciate them and it's not like they are going to replace the Beatles or Paul Anka or Frank Sinatra for me. I see what they do as decoration of the basic song form we have come to love. For those who want to "locate" this music, here is my unhelpful over-generalization: Every western musician will typically pause to breathe every four measures or so. If you are Louis Cole, you'll have a drum fill or a break or some rhythm ornamentation to catch the breath. His approach reminds me of classic funk with additional borrowed vocabulary from Drum&Bass and Trap. But other genres do the same essential thing. If you are Liberace you decorate your pause with pianistic arpeggios. If you are Joe Satriani, a whammy bar dive bomb might be what you reach for. If you are John Williams cue those 32nd note woodwind runs. It's not that different. JW's father was a drummer, lol. Yes, I too love to hear them live. Louis Cole seems like a very nice guy but musically he reminds me of Buddy Rich. He's big enough to anchor a very large ensemble. 20 hours ago, Dave Bryce said: I’ve been a fan of these guys since they appeared on Snarky Puppy’s Family Dinner Vol. 2. dB Love it! Thanks dB. 🎶 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewall08530 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 My 39 year old son introduced me to Knower. I was impressed with them. While watching I recognized Rai from some solo YouTube videos I had watched 6 years earlier. My son was impressed that I was familiar with Rai. 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I know Genevieve from my time in LA in the late 00s. She was part of the CSUN crew we all had a regular Sunday night Jam at the Sunset House of Blues with. It has been fun to watch her double down on everything quirky and badass and link up with Louis and go on this uncompromosingly creative run. Louis is a ridiculous musician. One of the few drummers Nate Wood trusts to sub for him in Kneebody. It's very inspiring to me. 2 1 Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROIOS Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/13/2024 at 1:04 PM, Tusker said: Love Louis Cole but this one sounds like a contrived attempt at mixing Stevie Wonder's gravy with Moonchild's wine. Both are uniquely rich and strong, but I'd rather enjoy them separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROIOS Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 6 hours ago, Threadslayer said: Pretty impressive technically - particularly rhythmically - but just out of curiosity, what would you call this type of music? Progressive jazz/rock/funk fusion? Definitely not easy listening music... Avant-garde 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Nathan Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 A friend once described this kind of music as like being in the ring with Mike Tyson. You can't help but be impressed with his technical skills, but before long, you're on the ropes in the corner and he's just pummeling you non stop. 6 Quote Don't rush me. I'm playing as slowly as I can! http://www.stevenathanmusic.com/stevenathanmusic.com/HOME.html https://apple.co/2EGpYXK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Add me to the list as a longer-term fan. Would love to see them live. As an aside, Rai is one of the nicest guys you'll meet. One of the best hours in conversation I've ever spent, was with him 1 Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 For anyone who questions the genius of Prince, he was playing and producing this type of music 40 years ago. This type of music may never be commercially successful from a Pop perspective but the great news is that AI will never be a threat to this level of talent and creativity. I'm optimistic that artists and musicians of this caliber will always exist. The unknown is whether they'll be able to reach and maintain an audience.😎 3 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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