Tobias Åslund Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 We have a product page: Clonk Quote Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeJackson Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 "You are ready for gig" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scales Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Product page doesn't have specs yet. Wonder if it has drum loops like the CP-5. Also, can the AUX input be used for mics? I like the separate volume control of the mic input on the CP-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangefunk Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Looks and sounds great.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voxpops Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Specs are there on the individual product pages. CP4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athan Billias Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Product page doesn't have specs yet. Wonder if it has drum loops like the CP-5. Also, can the AUX input be used for mics? I like the separate volume control of the mic input on the CP-5. Go here and then click on the tabs for features, specs and audio/video demos. CP4 Features page Quote Director of Marketing Pro Audio and Combo Division Yamaha Corporation of America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athan Billias Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Product page doesn't have specs yet. Wonder if it has drum loops like the CP-5. Also, can the AUX input be used for mics? I like the separate volume control of the mic input on the CP-5. There are some details that are harder to glean from the spec page. There are no MIDI drum loops, but you can record and playback audio directly from a USB drive. You could put the mic into an analog mixer and send that output to the aux input, but the CP4 was not designed to have an integrated mic input with effects like the CP5. The CP4 is three Parts ( Main, Layer and Split), The CP5 is actually five ( LH 1&2 , RH1 &2 and a Mic Input Part which is also stored with each Performance). Again we just want to make people have the information to make informed decisions. Quote Director of Marketing Pro Audio and Combo Division Yamaha Corporation of America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Go here and then click on the tabs for features, specs and audio/video demos. CP4 Features page Can´t find anything about MIDI except I/O ports. Does the CP4 at least have one external MIDI zone, ideally on/off switchable on the fly and w/ some user selectable/adjustable controller assignments ? 5-Pin DIN MIDI and USB transmit the same MIDI data (mirrored) or are independent ? Any MIDI implementation chart available ? A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Dammit. I have GAS. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scales Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Thanks Athan, I was at the yamahasynth.com site which didn't have the specs yet. The only reason I asked about the drum loops is because they are a tremendous help when practicing. I suppose there could be a work around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Paxton Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Am I the only one who thinks the very first audio demo, the one for the CFX piano, sounds like the perfect cross between Vince Guaraldi and Bruce Hornsby? Anyway, I thought the AP demos sounded great. Rhodes were decent, but then I got to the Wurly and remembered, "Oh yeah, that's what that sounds like." I always found the Wurly in the CP5 completely uninspiring, and based on the demo, it sounds like the same one. GAS effectively cured, at least for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athan Billias Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Go here and then click on the tabs for features, specs and audio/video demos. CP4 Features page Can´t find anything about MIDI except I/O ports. Does the CP4 at least have one external MIDI zone, ideally on/off switchable on the fly and w/ some user selectable/adjustable controller assignments ? 5-Pin DIN MIDI and USB transmit the same MIDI data (mirrored) or are independent ? Any MIDI implementation chart available ? A.C. The internal three Parts ( Main,Layer and Split) are fixed to MIDI channels 1,2 and 3. Completely separate from that the CP4 and 40 have 4 zone MIDI controller functionality with key/ velocity layers, bank and program assignment and controller routing. Basically it is similar to the external zones would find on a Motif in Master Mode if you are familiar with that. So for example you could be playing on MIDI channels 1,2,3 internally and transmit on MIDI channels 4,5,6 and 7 externally. Quote Director of Marketing Pro Audio and Combo Division Yamaha Corporation of America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Piano Man Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Can you have two internal sounds layered in the bottom half of the keyboard and one internal sound in the top half? Quote Kurzweil PC3x Technics SX-P50 Korg X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_G Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 ....it's called "CP stage SERIES".... Is there hope for a CP400 ??? (int. speakers) Quote Studio: Hammond XK5-XLK5, Roland Fantom 8, Kurzweil PC3A6, Prophet 5, Moog Sub37, Neo Vent, HX3-Expander, LB Organ Grinder Live: Yamaha CP88, Yamaha Motif Rack ES, Hammond SKX Pro, Hammond XB2-HX3, Kurzweil PC3-61, Leslie 251, Roland SA1000, Neo Vent2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzjazz Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm just a little bit excited to say I'm first inline at Sweetwater! Can't wait for this baby to arrive! Quote www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I always found the Wurly in the CP5 completely uninspiring Disagree bigtime. Also, IIRC, there was an OS update that improved the playability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm just a little bit excited to say I'm first inline at Sweetwater! Can't wait for this baby to arrive! Can't wait for your post about how you don't like it and you're sending it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mullins Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm not in the market right now but this would be at the top of my investigation list for a bottom tier if I was. As a convenience, here is the page comparing the CP4 and the CP40: CP4/40 Comparison For my purposes, there appears to be just enough in the CP4 (extra sounds, 3 part vs. 2, internal power, wood keys) to make it worth the extra $500. Quote Yamaha CK88, Arturia Keylab 61 MkII, Moog Sub 37, Yamaha U1 Upright, Casio CT-S500, Mac Logic/Mainstage, iPad Camelot, Spacestation V.3, QSC K10.2, JBL EON One Compact www.stickmanor.com There's a thin white line between fear and fury - Stickman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 For my purposes, there appears to be just enough in the CP4 (extra sounds, 3 part vs. 2, internal power, wood keys) to make it worth the extra $500. Yes, I think the CP5 is definitely the way to go if possible. Other niceties: balanced outs, a second foot controller jack, more EQ. And besides the bigger selection of AWM2 (Motif) sounds, there's a pretty big difference in the range of Piano/EP sounds available, too. We knew that the 40 didn't have the CFX pianos, it looks like it doesn't have the S6 either. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The internal three Parts ( Main,Layer and Split) are fixed to MIDI channels 1,2 and 3. Completely separate from that the CP4 and 40 have 4 zone MIDI controller functionality with key/ velocity layers, bank and program assignment and controller routing. Basically it is similar to the external zones would find on a Motif in Master Mode if you are familiar with that. So for example you could be playing on MIDI channels 1,2,3 internally and transmit on MIDI channels 4,5,6 and 7 externally. Thx for the reply Athan, that sounds good to me. I´m not familiar w/ Master Mode on the Motifs, the Yamaha gear I used over the decades and still use is much older. I´d be highly interested in the info whether external ZONEs/MIDI channels can be muted/unmuted on the fly by the user or not. It´s not a dealbreaker if not because I see that feature rarely, but it would be excellent if it worked. A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicale Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 How's the Hammond Sound ? Musicale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 How's the Hammond Sound ? It will be some version of a Motif XS/MOX Hammond sound, so don't look for anything really clonewheel-like out of it. Probably good enough to get you by for a lot of stuff, though. Especially if you'd consider playing organ from a weighted action in the first place. ;-) Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16251 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I listened to the samples and I didn't like the CFX sample. My first quick impression favored the S6. Quote AvantGrand N2 | ES520 | Gallien-Krueger MK & MP | https://soundcloud.com/pete36251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 No, that's me. I was able to obtain one yesterday morning. Used on the gig last night, didn't dig it, put on CL when I got home..and there's someone on the way over now to buy it. Oh well, on to the next one. At least I gave it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16251 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm just a little bit excited to say I'm first inline at Sweetwater! Can't wait for this baby to arrive! Can't wait for your post about how you don't like it and you're sending it back. No, that's me. I was able to obtain one yesterday morning. Used on the gig last night, didn't dig it, put on CL when I got home..and there's someone on the way over now to buy it. Oh well, on to the next one. At least I gave it a shot. got what? the CP 4? Sorry, if I sound confused, don't have time to re-read thread. Quote AvantGrand N2 | ES520 | Gallien-Krueger MK & MP | https://soundcloud.com/pete36251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Verelst Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 ... put on CL when I got home..and there's someone on the way over now to buy it. Oh well, on to the next one. At least I gave it a shot. Wow, that's quick... I listened to the demos on my big (neutral, low distortion, full range) 5 way, 3 way multi-amped monitoring system. Of course many have by now listened to them, but what struck me most that as far as I can judge it's a musical machine that allows you to "play" with the notes to create individual interpretations, nice or rough sounding pianos, and may be the first machine that combines FM-type qualities (after all, FM is to a certain extend also in piano strings) with "hard" sounds (almost like the Rolands), and yet maintain variation and a musical sound with expression. Having said that, I had the early Clavinova feel with some of the first sounds, and that isn't a nice feel, I hated that sound. But honestly, in this case not for being polite, I think there's variations and lots of playing styles possible with the machine that I'd dig. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCRoswell Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Unfortunately there's no English Owner's Manual on the Yamaha site yet. At least I'm getting some review on my 10th grade Spanish. Thank goodness for pictures! Quote Live rig: Roland FA-08, Yamaha MOTIF ES 6, laptop for supplemental sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFN Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 No, that's me. I was able to obtain one yesterday morning. Used on the gig last night, didn't dig it, put on CL when I got home..and there's someone on the way over now to buy it. Oh well, on to the next one. At least I gave it a shot. Dave: Please, more info... A lot of us respect your opinion and I would like to know more about why it didn't work for you. Your comments about the CP5 were part of why I bought one six months ago and I really like it. I was considering selling my CP5 to get a CP4 for the lighter weight and seemingly improved piano. Thanks for your feedback. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Dave was kidding, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFN Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Yes most definitely joking, sorry for any confusion... My history of turning over DPs goes back a few years now. However I've yet to return or immdediatley sell any Yamaha DP. You had me going there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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