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I know these players and even revere several of them, but my main interest is in being the best rock keyboardist in my own home studio. :keys2:

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30 minutes ago, nursers said:

Indeed - Paddy Milner from Tom Jones' band played on this as the chosen person to reflect Nicky's work.

 

Cool! Paddy is a badass!  And, FWIW, IMO, if you can't do this, or least some Johnnie Johnson stuff to some passable degree (Benmont can, Bittan can, Jools Holland can, but i don't think some folks mentioned above can), you might be a really great keyboard player, but you sure ain't rock & roll.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, D. Gauss said:

 

Cool! Paddy is a badass!  And, FWIW, IMO, if you can't do this, or least some Johnnie Johnson stuff to some passable degree (Benmont can, Bittan can, but i don't think some folks mentioned above can), you might be a really great keyboard player, but you sure ain't rock & roll.

 

 

And a lovely guy to talk to as well, very underrated as a player.

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49 minutes ago, Motif88 said:

Whose generation?

 

Times may change, standards MUST remain...

 

Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks.

 

You can pick your own order and have a wildcard, but they must be in the top 4.

Those three are my own personal favorites from the late 60’s into the 70’s also.

ELP’s first tour was my first ever concert in the early 70’s, and I feel lucky to have seen every Genesis tour while Gabriel was still in the band.

 

But to me Emerson was the GOAT on rock keyboards. 

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16 minutes ago, jazzpiano88 said:

Hardest working man in R&R Keyboard Work.     NRBQ's  Terry Adams.     He motions to the piano and it reacts.

 

 

 

Yes!. His style kinda doesn't really work with any other band but his (tho NRBQ is one of the best bands ever), but Terry is absolutely wonderful. The best possible mix of Monk outness, and "one-finger-Linus-Jingle-Bells,"  all wrapped up in pop sensibility.

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15 hours ago, D. Gauss said:

 

Cool! Paddy is a badass!  And, FWIW, IMO, if you can't do this, or least some Johnnie Johnson stuff to some passable degree (Benmont can, Bittan can, Jools Holland can, but i don't think some folks mentioned above can), you might be a really great keyboard player, but you sure ain't rock & roll.

 

Damn, he's great. Clean articulation in both hands. Never heard of him before - thanks for this!

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On 2/20/2024 at 12:01 PM, D. Gauss said:

ima just leave this here:

 

 

NICKY HOPKINS DISCOGRAPHY HIGHLIGHTS

 

 

THE SINGLES :

SCREAMING LORD SUTCH, Jack The Ripper/Don’t You Just Know It, Decca
THE WHO, Anyway Anyhow Anywhere , Brunswick
THE KINKS, Till The End Of The Day, Pye/Reprise
CYRIL DAVIES R & B ALL STARS, Country Line Special/Chicago Calling, Pye International/Dot
CLIFF BENNETT & REBEL ROUSERS, My Old Standby (B-Side), Parlophone
RITCHIE BLACKMORE ORCHESTRA, Little Brown Jug/Getaway, Oriole
VASHTI, Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind ,Decca
DAVID BOWIE DAVY JONES & THE LOWER THIRD, You’ve Got A Habit Of Leaving, Parlophone
PRETTY THINGS, Midnight To Six Man, Fontana
THE KINKS, Dedicated Follower Of Fashion, Pye/Reprise
THE KINKS, Sunny Afternoon, Pye/Reprise
DAVID BOWIE, Can’t Help Thinking About Myself, Pye
TWICE AS MUCH, Sittin’ On A Fence/Baby I Want You, Immediate
CAT STEVENS, Matthew And Son/Granny, Deram
ROLLING STONES, We Love You, Decca/London
ROLLING STONES, 2000 Light Years/She’s A Rainbow, Decca/London
NICKY HOPKINS, Mr. Pleasant, Polydor/Decca
THE KINKS, Autumn Almanac, Pye (UK)
DAVE DAVIES, Death Of A Clown, Pye/Reprise
JEFF BECK, Beck’s Bolero, Columbia/Epic
YARDBIRDS, Little Games, Columbia
MARC BOLAN, Jasper C. Debussy, Track
PP ARNOLD, The First Cut Is The Deepest, Immediate
BEATLES, Hey Jude/Revolution (B-side), Apple
ROLLING STONES, Jumpin’ Jack Flash, Decca/London
THE KINKS, Days, Pye/Reprise
DONOVAN, Goo Goo Barabajagal, Epic
SCAFFOLD, Lily The Pink, Parlophone
FATS DOMINO, Have You Seen My Baby, Reprise
JOHN LENNON/PLASTIC ONO BAND, Happy Christmas/War Is Over, Apple
THE WHO, Let’s See Action, Track
ROLLING STONES, Tumbling Dice, Rolling Stones
HARRY NILSSON, Remember Christmas, RCA
ROLLING STONES, Angie, Rolling Stones
GEORGE HARRISON, Give Me Love, Apple
RINGO STARR, Photograph, Apple
RINGO STARR, You’re Sixteen, Apple
JOE COCKER, You Are So Beautiful, A & M
ART GARFUNKEL, I Only Have Eyes For You, Columbia
JULIO IGLESIAS / WILLIE NELSON, To All The Girls I’ve Loved Before, CBS
JOE WALSH / STEVE EARLE, Honey Don’t (Beverley Hillbillies), Fox Records
JOE WALSH / FRANKIE MILLER, Guilty Of The Crime, Pyramid
PAUL MCCARTNEY, Beautiful Night/Same Love, Oobu-Joobu 6

 

THE SIXTIES :

THE WHO, My Generation, Brunswick/Decca USA
THE KINKS, The Kinks Kontroversy, Pye/Reprise
NICKY HOPKINS, The Revolutionary Piano Of…, CBS
THE KINKS, Face To Face, Pye / Reprise
ROLLING STONES, Between The Buttons, Decca/London
ROLLING STONES, Their Satanic Majesties Request, Decca/London
ROLLING STONES, Beggar’s Banquet, Decca/London
KINKS, Village Green Preservation Society, Pye/Reprise
JEFF BECK GROUP, Truth, Columbia/Epic
THE KINKS, Something Else By The Kinks, Pye/Reprise
DUSTY SPRINGFIELD, Dusty…Definitely, Philips
ROLLING STONES, Let It Bleed, Decca/London
JEFF BECK GROUP, Beck-Ola, Columbia / Epic
STEVE MILLER BAND, Brave New World, Capitol
STEVE MILLER BAND, Your Saving Grace, Capitol
JEFFERSON AIRPLANE, Volunteers, RCA
FAMILY, Entertainment, Reprise
ROY HARPER, Folkjokeopus, Liberty
ELLA FITZGERALD, Ella, Warner Brothers
THE MOVE, The Move, Cube
BILLY NICHOLLS, Would You Believe, Immediate 

 

THE SEVENTIES 

STEVE MILLER BAND, Number 5, Capitol
QUICKSILVER MESSENGER SERVICE, Shady Grove, Capitol
VARIOUS, Woodstock, Atlantic
ROLLING STONES, Sticky Fingers, Rolling Stones Records
THE WHO, Who’s Next, Track
NICKY HOPKINS, Jamming With Edward, Rolling Stones Records
JOHN LENNON, Imagine, Apple
ROLLING STONES, Exile On Main Street, Rolling Stones Records
HARRY NILSSON, Son Of Schmilsson, RCA Victor
CARLY SIMON, No Secrets, Elektra
NICKY HOPKINS, The Tin Man Was A Dreamer, CBS
GEORGE HARRISON, Living In The Material World, Apple
RINGO STARR, Ringo, Apple
ROLLING STONES, Goat’s Head Soup, Rolling Stones Records
ANDY WILLIAMS, Solitaire, CBS
JOHN LENNON, Walls & Bridges, Apple
ROLLING STONES, It’s Only Rock’n’Roll, Rolling Stones Records
JOE COCKER, I Can Stand A Little Rain, Fly
PETER FRAMPTON, Something’s Happening, A & M
RINGO STARR, Goodnight Vienna, Apple
MARTHA REEVES, Martha Reeves, MCA
NICKY HOPKINS, No More Changes, Mercury (US)
ART GARFUNKEL, Breakaway, CBS
ROLLING STONES, Black & Blue, Rolling Stones Records
JERRY GARCIA, Reflections, United Artists
ROD STEWART, Footloose And Fancy Free, Warner Brothers
JENNIFER WARNES, Jennifer Warnes, Arista
ROD STEWART, Blondes Have More Fun, Riva
LOWELL GEORGE, Thanks I’ll Eat It Here, Warner Brothers
POINTER SISTERS, Priority, Planet 

 

THE EIGHTIES 

ROLLING STONES, Emotional Rescue, Rolling Stones Records
TIM HARDIN, Unforgiven, Arc International
GRAHAM PARKER & THE RUMOUR, The Up Escalator, Stiff
ROLLING STONES, Tattoo You, Rolling Stones Records
NILS LOFGREN, Night Fades Away, MCA/Backstreets
MEATLOAF, Dead Ringer, Cleveland/Epic
GRAHAM PARKER & THE RUMOUR, Another Grey Area, RCA
DUSTY SPRINGFIELD, White Heat, Mercury/Casablanca
KING OF COMEDY, Soundtrack, Warner Brothers
CARL WILSON, Youngblood, Caribou
JULIO IGLESIAS, 1100 Bel Air Place, CBS
BELINDA CARLISLE, Belinda, IRS
ROD STEWART, Rod Stewart/Every Beat Of My Heart, Warner Brothers
PAUL MCCARTNEY, Flowers In The Dirt,Capitol
JACK BRUCE, A Question Of Time, Epic 

 

THE NINETIES 

ROGER CHAPMAN, Hybrid & Lowdown, Polydor
GARY MOORE, Still Got The Blues, Virgin
NICKY HOPKINS, The Fugitive (Soundtrack), Toshiba-EMI
NICKY HOPKINS, Patio (Soundtrack), Toshiba-EMI
JAYHAWKS, Hollywood Town Hall, Columbia
JOE SATRIANI, Extremist, Legacy Recordings
SPINAL TAP, Break Like The Wind, MCA
MATTHEW SWEET, Altered Beast, Zoo/BMG
JOE WALSH, Robocop Soundtrack, Rhino/Pyramid
GENE CLARK, Under The Silvery Moon, Delta De Luxe
FRANKIE MILLER, Long Way Home, Jerkin’ Crocus

 

plus played at woodstock with jefferson airplane, did the stones' 71 & 72 tours and rock & rock circus, jerry garcia's 1975 tour and graham parker's 1980 tour.

 

 

You make a compelling case - thanks for all you're contributing. While I certainly know his work, you are uncovering things I didn't know. I can't wait to see that documentary.

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If you judge by the length of the discography the winner might be Greg Phillinganes. His rock contributions include Guns'n Roses, Eric Clapton, Paul McCartney, David Gilmour, John Mayer etc. Here is a snippet of his discography. The URL to his full discography would be about 6 kilometers long.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Phillinganes#Selected_discography

 

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I have no idea who is the greatest, but I certainly love a lot of the keyboardists mentioned.

 

 I don't think these are the greatest, but Brian Eno and Paul Raymond (UFO) sound great to me and beautifully complement the music being played. 

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10 minutes ago, U.Honey said:

If you judge by the length of the discography the winner might be Greg Phillinganes. His rock contributions include Guns'n Roses, Eric Clapton, Paul McCartney, David Gilmour, John Mayer etc. Here is a snippet of his discography. The URL to his full discography would be about 6 kilometers long.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Phillinganes#Selected_discography

 

 

Um, yes long list, probably even longer than Nicky's, and he's a great keyboard player. But... how many songs Greg actually played on are iconic Rock songs?  Yes, he's got Michael Jackson (not really rock imo), but he's got no Beatles, no Stones, no Who, no Kinks, etc.   When you have memorable parts on "Angie", "Revolution", "Jumpin' Jack Flash", "Sympathy For The Devil", "Jealous Guy", "Street Fightin' Man", "Sunny Afternoon", "Honkey Tonk Women", etc. in your credits, it's pretty tough to beat.

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1 hour ago, D. Gauss said:

 

Um, yes long list, probably even longer than Nicky's, and he's a great keyboard player. But... how many songs Greg actually played on are iconic Rock songs?  Yes, he's got Michael Jackson (not really rock imo), but he's got no Beatles, no Stones, no Who, no Kinks, etc.   When you have memorable parts on "Angie", "Revolution", "Jumpin' Jack Flash", "Sympathy For The Devil", "Jealous Guy", "Street Fightin' Man", "Sunny Afternoon", "Honkey Tonk Women", etc. in your credits, it's pretty tough to beat.

 

Sure, I guess it boils down to what is "Our Generation". Almost all the songs/bands in your list are from the 1960's. Greg Phillinganes was born too late to record on the 60's. He did play on Stevie Wonder's "Songs in the Key of Life" at the age of 20, but that was 1976. Maybe he qualifies as Great Rock Keyboardist of the youngster generation 🙂

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1 hour ago, U.Honey said:

 

Sure, I guess it boils down to what is "Our Generation". Almost all the songs/bands in your list are from the 1960's. Greg Phillinganes was born too late to record on the 60's. He did play on Stevie Wonder's "Songs in the Key of Life" at the age of 20, but that was 1976. Maybe he qualifies as Great Rock Keyboardist of the youngster generation 🙂

 

Obviously, Stevie ain't no slouch ("Superstition" anyone?), and he hired Greg 'cause he could do spot on Stevie covers.  Then Greg spent an impressive, and careering defining coupla decades with MJ, but none of this is rock n roll.  Greg is also 67.  Paddy Milner mentioned above is MUCH younger at 43.  Adam Weiner, of Low Cut Connie, and IMO the best frontman currently out there, is also 43. He's a great piano player, but still not Nicky Hopkins great. (tho Nicky was a terrible front man) ;) 

 

 

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Another relatively younger-ish (52 or something) absolute rock badass is Kevin McKendree (Delbert McClinton, Brian Setzer, George Thorogood, Lee Roy Parnell, John Oates).  He also plays guitar for a lotta folks and is a grammy winning songwriter/record producer, so you don't always see him out there but when you do:

 

 

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A little closer to home, and maybe a bit more off the radar. My friend Brian Mitchell (50ish) was in Levon Helm's band for years as well as Buster Pointdexter. He also played with Dylan, Dolly Parton, Al Green, Dwight Yoakam, Willy Deville, B.B. King, Alan Toussaint and a laundry list of others.  After Levon passed, another buddy, Michael Bram (Jason Mraz) stepped into Levon's drum/vocal chair and they became the weight band, the official band tribute (jim weider is on guitar). if you like the stylings of the band, you'll like these guys. Either way, stick around for the 4 min mark:

 

 

 

 

 

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John Evan with Tull should be mentioned .....also Max Middleton with Beck and Jan Hammer ... Edgar Winter... T. Lavitz w/o a doubt... Tony Kay on the 1st Yes album 'Fragile' .... all dues to Rick W.  ... Jon Lord....Hopkins for sure....! Benmont..  Seth Justman just for how loud his Leslies were (and his playing) , my lord ... they were loud even in large halls...legend..they opened live alot for many shows in rocks vaudville years around here...Mike Pinder with the Moody Blues... who was doing that with a Mellotron then?.  Mike Finnigan ...Joe Sample, Dr. John, Bobby Whitlock.Philligaines (sp), George Duke with Zappa ... it's like different flavors of Ice Cream.... no one Holy Grail for the Templers of Rock keys....   still alot of people missing ...the Brit in Colosseum, Dave Greenslade ... if you wanted to go all the way back to the Fillmore East (and West), though I remember the East shows more from listening to the local radio in NYC then -Virgil Fox  also Chick Corea or Joe Z....  maybe we need to add a sherbet or a gellato line ...all different players and skills and personalities and spirits is best part of the this thread for me.  Robert Persig's metaphysics of 'Quality''s concepts come to mind from his books.... what is quality he asked in his books.... he thought he had an answer .. got pretty far to... good reads   

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Lets say that generations change every 25 years...so we must write for the best from 1999 until now...

If a keyboardist is active, we do not care when he started to play for the first time...

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Even if you accept the (absurd) premise that music is a competition, any discussion that compares Nicky Hopkins and Greg Phillinganes is too broad to be useful.

Hopkins was a piano player who people would hire to sound like Nicky Hopkins.  Phllinganes a multi-keyboardist would could (can) play anything with anybody.  One, a distinctive and bespoke musical personality, the other a monster player of unrivaled talent and versatility. Fortunately, there is no need to decide which is "better."

 

I get it, though. A "greatest" discussion is  just an excuse to shoot the shit on a topic we love. Nobody gets hurt, and maybe a few of us get inspired to listen to someone new or relisten to an old favorite.

 

To me, Hopkins has one of the most distinctive piano "voices" in the history of pop music.  Hopkins always emphasized soulfulness over technical fireworks. He and Brian Auger (rock? greatest? who cares . . .) have been my north stars for decades and still are.

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45 minutes ago, Adan said:

 

Hopkins was a piano player who people would hire to sound like Nicky Hopkins.  

 

Exactly. Post Johnnie Johnson/Little Richard/Jerry Lee, Nicky is the sound of rock. And when you're George Harrison, John Lennon, Jerry Garcia, Pete Townshend, etc., you can hire anybody you want, but they all chose the same guy.

 

 He was Benmont Tench's big influence, oh and this guy's, too:

 

 

 

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The Cars are rock, right? If we're talking about the best being the most complementary, the keyboards that Greg Hawkes plays are beautifully so, alongside the aforementioned Brian Eno and Paul Raymond (UFO). I should mention Jon Lord, Ray Manzarek and Billy Powell as well.

 

Here's a link to the Top 100 Greatest Rock Keyboardists and Pianists. It's just one link, you know, but interestingly, they put Brian Eno at #19, so maybe my mentioning him is not as weird as it seems! :D

 

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_keyboard.html

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On 2/22/2024 at 12:01 PM, MathOfInsects said:

 

The C. Leavell, B. Tench, and maybe S. Nieve contingent can all be talked about for changing the sound and scope of the songs they played on in ways that make the keyboard an indispensable part of their groups' sound.


 

Those are three great ones. I find Steve in particular to be endlessly inventive.  You could take the guitar tracks off of Get Happy and still have a great record. 

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Perhaps another sub category, the Greatest Piano Playing Preacher who fell from grace after getting exposed for consorting with prostitutes?  I’m sure there's more than one, but Jimmy has to rise to the GOAT status for this category yes?

 

 

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14 minutes ago, TommyRude said:

Perhaps another sub category, the Greatest Piano Playing Preacher who fell from grace after getting exposed for consorting with prostitutes?  I’m sure there's more than one, but Jimmy has to rise to the GOAT status for this category yes?

 

 

 

Yep, he's in good company being cousins to Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis and Mickey Gilley. :)

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Jerry was once asked in an interview if Jimmy was a good piano player.  His response was basically 'Yes Sir, any student of mine is a good piano player.'

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Let me know when you awake from your coma. While I appreciate NRBQ and numerous others mentioned…

 

Are you kidding me?

 

Keith is the GOAT.

 

 

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It was a life changer to watch Keith perform "Piano Improvisations" live through my opera glasses and a cloud of weed smoke up in the cheap seats. :puff:

All I personally heard while he played was the piano. OooWEE! A beautiful night. :cheers:

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I appreciated Keith Emerson especially as a teenager.  I got to the point though that his playing style wasn’t an influence.  If I want to go down that style road I would just as soon listen to the World’s elite play Scriabin, Liszt, Rachmaninov etc …. 
 

FWIW, IMO, EIEIO, Terry Adams style is applicable in practically any Rock context.  It just depends on how much Terry is too much.  At the heart of it, Rock keys are a percussion instrument           .  Just ask any Hammond player.  
 

Not sure if anyone can view this.  It was in my feed today.  Someone here is going full Terry.  
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