timwat Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 So I'm sitting here on the holiday grading in the online Canvas app (oh the glorious life of a college professor) - and so I was spinning tunes from If That's What It Takes - hearing the sound of the pedaling on I Can Let Go Now makes that track so damn intimate. But found myself completely distracted and wrapped up by Greg's clavinet work on I Keep Forgettin'. Yeah that track that has been sampled in Regulate and so many others. But what genius that Phillinganes with that clav part. Okay - I gotta get back to grading. 7 5 Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawback Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I know! GP is amazing, as a sideplayer and doing his own thing. Always someone to aspire to. 👍👍 Quote ____________________________________ Rod Here for the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 That whole album - man it's like hearing with new ears for some reason this afternoon. Michael, GP, and Michael Omartian taking musical chairs on piano and Rhodes, depending on the track. And yes, Phillinganes little solo on 100 Ways was stuck in my head earlier today (supposedly, Quincy Jones told him it was his favorite synth solo of all time). And then there's the two synth solos in this live version of Brazilian Love Affair - George at 3:21 and then, at then at Mark Stephens at 7:52 - damn. I'm never going to get my grading finished this way. 3 1 6 Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Mark’s crazy good. When I think that he’s currently doing the Josh Groban, Chaka Khan, and Larry Carlton gigs it blows my mind. Serious chops and instincts. He should be a household name. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadroj Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Incredible version of BLA above. George Duke was the man, and Mark Stephens too by the sounds of it. Also...I don't know how I didn't know it was GP who did the "100 Ways" solo. Of course it was. 2 Quote Hammond SKX Mainstage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Can't forget Steve Lukather on guitar. His mutes perfectly compliment what the EP and Clav are doing. That whole 2nd gen Wrecking Crew was amazing (or was it 3rd gen by then?) 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, linwood said: Mark’s crazy good. When I think that he’s currently doing the Josh Groban, Chaka Khan, and Larry Carlton gigs it blows my mind. Serious chops and instincts. He should be a household name. No lie, right? I had to do a little sleuthing to figure out who was playing that killer solo behind George - and then reading his resume, and seeing his FB that he's holding down all three chairs pretty much simultaneously - Groban, Chaka, and Carlton. Yes, he should be a household name, at least on this forum. 1 Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Don't wanna mess with him on a basketball court either. I was lucky to do a few charts for Josh's band and Mark was doing the gig. Total monster of a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 James Ingram = 2 Paul Simons, when measured in ways. 1 5 Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Quinn Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Wow, Mark's a fantastic player! I hadn't heard of him before this thread. Thx! Quote https://alquinn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/20/2023 at 7:58 PM, timwat said: But found myself completely distracted and wrapped up by Greg's clavinet work on I Keep Forgettin'. Yeah that track that has been sampled in Regulate and so many others. But what genius that Phillinganes with that clav part. +1000 Also Jeff Porcaro and Louis Johnson make brilliance look easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Zeger Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I can’t recall watching a product demo video more than once. I’ve watched the GP Keyscape demo countless times because he is SO entertaining. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 That Clav part is so expertly played and placed in the song. 1 Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelBLupowitz Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 "The smooth grooves of this song alone will make it to at least #2!" 1 2 Quote Samuel B. Lupowitz Musician. Songwriter. Food Enthusiast. Bad Pun Aficionado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Being a Doobie Bros freak I actually had to go back and re-listen to this song as I wasn't aware of the Clav in the song. IMO, the Clav is so subdued that I never noticed it before; further I played this in a band back in the 90's and one of the guitar players did what I now just learned are the Clav stabs in the song. Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan May Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Not only is the clarinet from Greg Phillinganes a good counterpart to Michael McDonalds vocals on I Keep Forgetting, Louis Johnson plays a funky bass line on that song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 And Jeff Porcaro with the ridiculously funky 16ths! And someone mentioned Lukather's guitar part being perfect. There is a great video of Tim Pierce breaking down and playing Lukather's guitar part on Youtube somewhere. Just hearing it by itself I was floored yet again by Lukather's instant genius part creation. I think I saw a video of Phillingaines talking about this clav part recently (past month or so?) and he might have mentioned that the Clav was modded somehow? I forget. 2 Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 The cats being mentioned in this thread are the definition of a musician's musician. Every last one of them is an ultra-badazz because they came up playing with equally or more talented musicians. IMO, those types of musicians, whose playing can be identified from listening to a recording are slowly dying on the vine. Especially when it comes funky music, fewer musicians are forming bands and/or playing on records like that anymore. Cats like Greg Phillinganes and Mark Stephens have always been in the background making records and artists sound better. IMO, those musicians are perfectly comfortable with not being household names. They don't have to deal with the same BS. Also, if anyone has ever heard Phillinganes' solo record, there's a reason he stays behind the scenes. Artist is not his forte.😁 However, Phillinganes has done very well for himself as a musician. He can sit down at any restaurant in LA and enjoy his meal. OTOH, some of the artists with whom Phillinganes has worked wouldn't have been able to sit down and have lunch with him there. 🤣😎 4 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Man. Always knew the tune, of course, but it's probably the closest I've listened to the parts. I should probably listen another thirty times and then every day for a year. Everyone is so on point at every turn. GP is among the all-time pantheon, of course. Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Is that a whammy bar clav at the very beginning? Doesn't sound like a guitar doing those bends. Pocaro and Johnson have such a hook-up it's just ridiculous. 2 Quote Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marczellm Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 On 2/21/2023 at 2:36 AM, timwat said: And then there's the two synth solos in this live version of Brazilian Love Affair - George at 3:21 and then, at then at Mark Stephens at 7:52 - damn. What are the keyboards they solo on? Quote Life is subtractive.Genres: Jazz, funk, pop, Christian worship, BebHop Wishlist: 80s-ish (synth)pop, symph pop, prog rock, fusion, musical theatre Gear: NS2 + JUNO-G. KingKORG. SP6 at church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jim Alfredson said: Is that a whammy bar clav at the very beginning? Doesn't sound like a guitar doing those bends. Pocaro and Johnson have such a hook-up it's just ridiculous. I do believe so, they're also panned to opposite sides. The bends are definitely coming from the clav. Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, marczellm said: What are the keyboards they solo on? Looks like George Duke was using a Rhodes and Roland A70 or A80 MIDI KB controller. Mark Stephens' KB looked like a Roland D-50. I wonder why their solos still sounded good coming from digital synths.😁😎 3 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, Jim Alfredson said: Is that a whammy bar clav at the very beginning? Doesn't sound like a guitar doing those bends. That's what I'm referring to Tim. I think that's exactly right. I heard him on something recently saying something like that. Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Tim plays Lukather's guitar part at the very beginning of this video. ^^^ that's a youtube link. Worthy watch for everyone in this thread IMO. 6 Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Bobadohshe said: Tim plays Lukather's guitar part at the very beginning of this video. ^^^ that's a youtube link. Worthy watch for everyone in this thread IMO. Oh cool, he also covers Lukather's work on the Thriller album. "Human Nature" at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redknife Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Michael McDonald has such a huge vocal presence in the midst of master song-smithing that it’s easy to miss details. At least that’s what I’m telling myself having listened to this song countless times and missing the clav. It does sound like the clav has a whammy although can’t exclude guitar. Quote Chris Main gear: Yamaha C7, Kronos 2 88, Moog Sub 37, CK61, Kurzweil PC2x, Pearl epro, Mac/Logic/AUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrokeys Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Always liked that tune and yes there are a lot of studio subtleties that make the recording work. My favorite take on it however is from an Australian band that ought to be huge someday if there is any justice. Good piano solo here too. Enjoy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 15 hours ago, Bobadohshe said: That's what I'm referring to Tim. I think that's exactly right. I heard him on something recently saying something like that. I'm pretty sure it's just not a Clav. 1 Quote "The Angels of Libra are in the European vanguard of the [retro soul] movement" (Bill Buckley, Soul and Jazz and Funk) The Drawbars | off jazz organ trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 11 hours ago, retrokeys said: Always liked that tune and yes there are a lot of studio subtleties that make the recording work. My favorite take on it however is from an Australian band that ought to be huge someday if there is any justice. Good piano solo here too. Enjoy. Really?? her voice isn't all that hot? Keyboard solo is the best thing about the performance. 1 Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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