RandyFF Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 .... even if you want to hire a pretty female singer, keep in mind to some of us (like me), looks dont really matter, you may find you hate her. Lucky you, have always faulted myself and others for being so beauty swayed. But when it comes to female singers, they have more than their looks to charm- I find myself falling for female singers with amazing voices though of course good looks plays into that enchantment! Quote Numa Piano X73 /// Kawai ES920 Yamaha Melodica and Alto Recorder QSC K8.2 // JBL Eon One Compact // Soundcore Motion Boom Plus Win11 laptop // iPad Pro 9.7" 32GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Perhaps you mean the wrists/forearms and elbows are flat? I've always assumed that was the optimum position. That's what the kinesiologists always recommend for computer keyboards anyway. Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkost2002 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 But the one thing I really learned from Albert was that its not just about your FINGERS but that your WRISTS are level with the keys so that ALL hand and arm muscles can be properly engaged. This is excellent, I've often wondered about the height of my hands relative to the keybed, and this makes a ton of sense. Though there's also the question of the height of the elbow relative to the wrist/hand. the elbows take care of themselves. let then fall naturally once you alingn the hands properly. the elbows are neither pulled in nor winged out I didn't mean the elbows going in or out, I meant up or down. The wrists can be relatively flat, and the elbows up or down in relation to the wrists. Perhaps you mean the wrists/forearms and elbows are flat? yes Quote "I have constantly tried to deliver only products which withstand the closest scrutiny � products which prove themselves superior in every respect.� Robert Bosch, 1919 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Advice for younger keys players: pay attention to even younger keys players. What are they listening to? How? What gear are they interested in? How are they communicating? How are they learning? I've herad current working producers and players share this advice a number of times. They all start nodding with each other when it comes up. The world is changing fast, yes. Artists have always been inspired by the youth Not all young people are smart, but some are friggin briliant. Most great discoveries are made by the under 30 people (though the old guys sometimes steal the credit} My goal is to stay as young as I can and learn from the truly young. What's next? Quote RT-3/U-121/Leslie 21H and 760/Saltarelle Nuage/MOXF6/MIDIhub, SL-880/Nektar T4/Numa Cx2/Deepmind12/Virus TI 61/SL61 mk2 Stylophone R8/Behringer RD-8/Proteus 1/MP-7/Zynthian 4 MPC1k/JV1010/Unitor 8/Model D & 2600/WX-5&7/VL70m/DMP-18 Pedals Natal drums/congas etc & misc bowed/plucked/blown instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoB3 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Advice for younger keys players: pay attention to even younger keys players. What are they listening to? How? What gear are they interested in? How are they communicating? How are they learning? I've herad current working producers and players share this advice a number of times. They all start nodding with each other when it comes up. The world is changing fast, yes. Artists have always been inspired by the youth Not all young people are smart, but some are friggin briliant. Most great discoveries are made by the under 30 people (though the old guys sometimes steal the credit} My goal is to stay as young as I can and learn from the truly young. What's next? My accountant agrees with you (and needs to be changed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Speaking of logic... How did you get from "...one consideration to take into account is..." to "...none of us should ever take the advice of our elders." My point, which I tried to make clearly, was that the elder should consider his target audience when giving advice. And my point, which I didn't make clearly, is to consider the practicality of the advice you're giving and whether it's likely to be received and implemented. Buying good gear which will last a long time, yes. Don't be in bands with people you hate, sure. Don't try to bed the hot chick singer - well, that's probably not gonna be heard. Quote These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoB3 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Dell Paxton: Ain't no way to keep a band together. Bands come and go. You got to keep on playin', no matter with who. Hahah! Yep! That thing you do, Dell!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Anyone else want to nominate this for a Key Thread? Hear! Hear! The Hears have it. Done. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_tour Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1) Learn to keep a solid practice routine that actually works. 2) Ear training 4) Ear training 6) Did I say ear training? Yeah. I would say try to be better than the bassist at ... what's that? Ear training. Bass players know how, so you should too, I would add: (i) Beg, borrow, or steal ONE good instrument. Use it. (ii) If not, go get the next best. Use it. (iii) Rinse, repeat. (iv) Write it down. Pencil and paper. Trust me: you'll forget it after a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFosco Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 What an older player should say to a younger player is: "Great gig man, you were smokin". They'll work the rest out themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyRude Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 learn to both read music and to improvise. If you get good at both, you will be worth your weight in gold. This. And you'll have more fun too. Quote Some music I've recorded and played over the years with a few different bands Tommy Rude Soundcloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-missRichardTee Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Horowitz had a master technician from the Steinway Artist division regulate his personal Steinway piano to his touch. The action he preferred was very sensitive and he toured with that piano. One should be careful citing Horowitz as an example of proper hand positioning. Aha, I knew I would find vindication for my preference for light action... I just knew I wasn't a light weight. (Said in jest, boi s... It's a joke, ok. I suck at the piano. ) Quote You don't have ideas, ideas have you We see the world, not as it is, but as we are. "One mans food is another mans poison". I defend your right to speak hate. Tolerance to a point, not agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoproducer Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 In my case, what a younger keys player could say to an older keys player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanL Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I commented on the Facebook post about this, that the age of the advice giver and recipient shouldn't matter. If a younger keyboard player is better than me and is going to give me advice on something that will help me get better, I'm going to listen. Just because someone is old doesn't mean they are worthy of giving advice. That's my advice, coming from an old guy! Quote Live: Korg Kronos 2 88, Nord Electro 5d Nord Lead A1 Toys: Roland FA08, Novation Ultranova, Moog LP, Roland SP-404SX, Roland JX10,Emu MK6 www.bksband.com www.echoesrocks.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montunoman Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 If a younger keyboard player is better than me and is going to give me advice on something that will help me get better, I'm going to listen. Just because someone is old doesn't mean they are worthy of giving advice. That's my advice, coming from an old guy! So true. Im sure must of us could learn a thing or two from a child like Joey Alexander! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 And always answer the question "What keyboard should I buy?" with: Nord Lead! Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 And always answer the question "What keyboard should I buy?" with: Nord Lead! What synth was used for the solo on "Lucky Man"? Nord Lead I want to learn Hammond Organ, what should I buy? Nord Lead Was that a Rhodes or a Wurlitzer on Supertramp records? Nord Lead What's the best keyboard amp out there? Nord Lead Anybody want a beer? Nord Lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Verelst Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 So you playboard? You in Da House? No? Good ! Lets hit a Blues in E, take a solo... What, doesn't work on that board? That's because digital's hard. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
area51recording Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 So you playboard? You in Da House? No? Good ! Lets hit a Blues in E, take a solo... What, doesn't work on that board? That's because digital's hard. T What on earth does wether or not a board is digital have to do with ones ability to play a blues in E?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyRude Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Take a shot early in life young keys player! The upsides dwarf the downsides, and if you don't make it, you will still have the immense rewards of the journey. And later, when you become an older keys player, you will feel fulfilled for having taken a shot. Quote Some music I've recorded and played over the years with a few different bands Tommy Rude Soundcloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re Pete Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Practice. Don't give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confidence Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Be careful, musicians are passive-agressive and often emotionally immature people Oh well I'll just go and give up my dreams and be miserable then. Mummy always said I was no good anyway - at least now you've confirmed she was right. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Pro tip: In general, younger keyboard players don't give a shit what any of us think. Quote Michael Montage 8, Logic Pro X, Omnisphere, Diva, Zebra 2, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Pro tip: In general, younger keyboard players don't give a shit what any of us think. For whatever it's worth, I haven't found this to be the case that much. Hard to tell on the interwebz if there is any tongue in cheek in your comment, Michael. But when I run into younger KB players (mostly, at jam sessions and similar where everyone gets to hear each other play), younger players in general seem to care a LOT about what older players think. Maybe its just the setting, and that's not the ordinary. Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 It needs a B3.... Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Pro tip: In general, younger keyboard players don't give a shit what any of us think. In my experience (and this has been happening a lot since reopening with both young musicians and DJs) what they want to know about - almost exclusively - is the inner workings of the local club scene: who's hiring, who's booking, and how to get in. And that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Get a Degree in Business. Nothing to do with music or keyboards, it can be applied to any field of endeavor and will not go out of style. As for younger keyboard players, I would tell them to buy a guitar and learn it to some extent but if they want gigs buy a bass and learn to sing and play bass simultaneously. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Weird, I thought I'd posted this when this thread first came around, but I don't see it. Also, some names I haven't seen in a while. Where is Wastrel? And dare I ask lest it summons him, Beetlejuice-style: what became of I-Miss-Richard-Tee? Anyhoo: If you're a young player, listen to old music. If you're an old player, listen to new music. Do this (on both ends of your career) and you can always work. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Don"t shit on the bus. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawback Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 some names I haven't seen in a while. Where is Wastrel? And dare I ask lest it summons him, Beetlejuice-style: what became of I-Miss-Richard-Tee? I don't know how I stumbled into this thread (the old/young thing is getting... well, old) but glad I did (to read this comment). I've been wondering this myself. There have been a few regulars MIA this past year. Quote ____________________________________ Rod Here for the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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