Damn tasty Rhodes MK-8 jam

[nursers]

 

[ProfD]

Nice showcase of the Rhodes MK8. No pedals required across the top. It's all in there.😁😎

[Bobbo Fett]

For that kind of $jack$ it SHOULD be, along with a toaster oven and air fryer.....😃

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, Bobbo Fett said:

For that kind of $jack$ it SHOULD be, along with a toaster oven and air fryer.....😃

The Rhodes MK8 is not aimed at the average musician on a budget.😁

 

The MK8 is a boutique instrument for a Rhodes connoisseur or collector.😎

[CyberGene]

The solo is too much of an aimless noodling even for a jazz solo but the sound is so creamy, excellent instrument, no doubt! ❤️ 

[ProfD]

55 minutes ago, CyberGene said:

The solo is too much of an aimless noodling even for a jazz solo...

I'd imagine using a 1970s Fusion vibe was the best way to to feature the effects in the MK8.😎

[CyberGene]

9 minutes ago, ProfD said:

I'd imagine using a 1970s Fusion vibe was the best way to to feature the effects in the MK8.

Yep, probably wanted to demo all the effects with all possible tweaks but got too boring and overdone. 

[funkphingerz88]

Well it came out as it did as it was entirely improvised - we were collectively very pleased with the results. Ps- We didn’t sit there trying to come up with any particular style; we just started playing and captured what came out. Absolutely raw. Can’t please everyone… 

[CyberGene]

1 hour ago, funkphingerz88 said:

Ps- We didn’t sit there trying to come up with any particular style; we just started playing and captured what came out. Absolutely raw. Can’t please everyone…

Well, please ignore my comment, I tend to be a bit direct sometimes. I realize you're demoing the instrument and its effects and I think I've seen your other improvisations and they are top level. I shouldn't have commented on the solo when clearly it's more about the wonderful instrument

[Paul Woodward]

Beautiful instrument, visually and sonically.

Hard to believe as a young lad starting out in the 80’s I saw Rhodes junked in the back of music shops or collecting dust unwanted in pawn shops. If only I’d known…

Still, if only I had bought Apple shares back then when they were a dollar, I could afford one of these with pocket change.

[funkphingerz88]

17 minutes ago, CyberGene said:

Well, please ignore my comment, I tend to be a bit direct sometimes. I realize you're demoing the instrument and its effects and I think I've seen your other improvisations and they are top level. I shouldn't have commented on the solo when clearly it's more about the wonderful instrument

Hey- it’s all good! No offence taken, I realise that not everything is going to please everyone and that’s what makes life interesting after all. I’m very glad you like the piano though, for myself and the Rhodes team we are really listening to all feedback- we are really excited about the future! 

[Adan]

Skipped halfway into the video to finally hear the basic tone, but it sounds great.  Very close to the "Herbie" (as opposed to bell-like) sound so many of us prefer.

 

I don't even know what these costs but with prices on acoustic pianos being so much higher these days, why would anyone expect a Rhodes to be different.  I guess one difference is there is no shortage of bargains on excellent condition used acoustics, but the only way to get an excellent condition used Rhodes is if it's fully restored, which is also not cheap.

[Theo Verelst]

I listened to the whole clip in 1440p bit on a phone (a S20+, so pretty good sound for one), not bad, though it soon gets a bit tedious in spite of some volume and tempo changes. It sounds like a decent instrument, but certainly on no way exciting that I could discern.

 

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[16251]

They should just gotten Herbie (no disrespect for Dan Goldman.)

[CyberGene]

3 hours ago, Adan said:

Very close to the "Herbie" (as opposed to bell-like) sound so many of us prefer.

Indeed, that’s my ideal Rhodes sound too, the one Herbie uses on Chameleon and Butterfly which is a creamy and thicker timbre, not bell-like. The new Rhodes 8 instrument to my ears has managed to capture that magic, at least in that video. Unfortunately, if I bring yet another expensive piano at home, I risk getting a divorce, so I can only lust for now…

[Reezekeys]

The Rhodess I knew - back in the day - had a vertical adjustment to vary the alignment of the end of the tine relative to the pickup. Move it up or down and you could do both the thicker Herbie sound and the more bell-like tone.

[CyberGene]

8 minutes ago, Reezekeys said:

Move it up or down and you could do both the thicker Herbie sound and the more bell-like tone.

Isn’t that what VintageVibe introduced in some of their latest models? The ability to do that on the fly with a lever, instead of having to overhaul the entire piano.

[Reezekeys]

2 hours ago, CyberGene said:

Isn’t that what VintageVibe introduced in some of their latest models? The ability to do that on the fly with a lever, instead of having to overhaul the entire piano.

 

That does sound like a great feature! I know nothing about those VV models, and have touched a real Rhodes probably 5 times in the last 25 years.

 

I remember there were two screws to adjust for each tine - so yea, doing the whole piano was very labor-intensive. I also remember having to adjust the distance from the tine end to the pickup. OTOH I remember breaking out the soldering iron to tune my Wurli, and having those reeds first go dead, then break pretty often. 

[CyberGene]

3 minutes ago, Reezekeys said:

That does sound like a great feature! I know nothing about those VV models

Here's some more information about this feature but I guess we might wanna move that talk in the corresponding VV thread (is there any? I don't remember...) to not spoil this one with discussions about their competition 😀

https://www.vintagevibe.com/pages/vintage-vibe-variable-voice-control

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, Adan said:

I don't even know what these costs but with prices on acoustic pianos being so much higher these days, why would anyone expect a Rhodes to be different.  I guess one difference is there is no shortage of bargains on excellent condition used acoustics, but the only way to get an excellent condition used Rhodes is if it's fully restored, which is also not cheap.

The demand for a new Rhodes is not extremely high.  Especially not when gigging musicians can get a reasonable facsimile of a Rhodes from a digital piano at a fraction of the cost.

 

The new Rhodes will appeal to an electric piano buyer in the same way that a real acoustic piano appeals to certain customers.😎

[Adan]

To my ear, the closest thing I've heard to that is a Mark I suitcase.  I've never heard a Mark II with that tone.  But we all have our own experiences and I expect someone will weigh in here and say they tweaked their Mark II to get the Herbie crunch.

[Motif88]

On 9/23/2023 at 12:19 PM, Bobbo Fett said:

For that kind of $jack$ it SHOULD be, along with a toaster oven and air fryer.....😃

hmm...it's all relative. In the 80's I paid a small fortune to make my Rhodes a "Dyno-My-Piano"...in today's dollars, the new MK8 is on par with better hardware and QA.

[Bobbo Fett]

24 minutes ago, Motif88 said:

hmm...it's all relative. In the 80's I paid a small fortune to make my Rhodes a "Dyno-My-Piano"...in today's dollars, the new MK8 is on par with better hardware and QA.

It's also a drag that the gigs I would use it on pay the same as they did in the 80's as well.......

[jerrythek]

8 hours ago, 16251 said:

They should just gotten Herbie (no disrespect for Dan Goldman.)

Yeah, why do the rest of us even bother?

 

Pretty crappy viewpoint, IMHO.

[nursers]

I also love the customisability of the MK8 when ordering - now to save my pennies and maybe learn to play better to deserve an instrument like that

[16251]

2 hours ago, jerrythek said:

Yeah, why do the rest of us even bother?

 

Pretty crappy viewpoint, IMHO.

I don't post shit without a reason. It was Herbie's flexible demo of Fender Rhodes back in 1973 that was instrumental in me wanting to get a Rhodes. Not to mention a couple of great albums he had featuring the Rhodes. He also would be a click monster considering his fame around the world. He also happens to love engineering and could explain the crap out of all the functionality of effects and could emphasize how having them all in a  tidy package makes it the ultimate Rhodes.

 

BTW, thanks for calling me Pretty.

 

 

[jerrythek]

28 minutes ago, 16251 said:

I don't post shit without a reason. It was Herbie's flexible demo of Fender Rhodes back in 1973 that was instrumental in me wanting to get a Rhodes. Not to mention a couple of great albums he had featuring the Rhodes. He also would be a click monster considering his fame around the world. He also happens to love engineering and could explain the crap out of all the functionality of effects and could emphasize how having them all in a  tidy package makes it the ultimate Rhodes.

 

BTW, thanks for calling me Pretty.

 

 

I hear ya - I know all that, and I still have that flexi-disk. It’s just how you said it.
 

Words have meaning, and your’s said that they “should have used Herbie instead” i.e. they made a mistake/used bad judgement doing what they did. And that the only "good" demo would be Herbie.  Had you said, “not for me, but I ‘d love to see Herbie do a demo, or something like that I wouldn’t have reacted the same way. That’s my point. Isn't there room for a variety of approaches, music and presentations?
 

Anyway, you’re still pretty pretty for some jazz changes. 
 

Jerry

 

 

[ProfD]

IMO, Herbie Hancock doesn't have the same influence over the current generation of KB buying musicians. 

 

Today's musicians respect and revere Herbie but they won't make their buying decisions based on his demos.

 

Then, Herbie Hancock himself probably hasn't giggled on a real Rhodes in at least a decade or longer.

 

That's what I find most amusing when folks reference Herbie's Rhodes sound.

 

Nowadays, *if* Herbie plays a Rhodes sound it's coming from a Korg KB. 😁😎

[jerrythek]

And speaking of Herbie, Dan Goldman is a pretty damn good student/proponent of Herbie's style of playing, and I've seen him do pretty spot-on "Herbie-isms" when he wants to. The man has Herbie "cred" for days.

 

Jerry

[16251]

25 minutes ago, ProfD said:

IMO, Herbie Hancock doesn't have the same influence over the current generation of KB buying musicians. 

Today's musicians respect and revere Herbie but they won't make their buying decisions based on his demos.

You might be right as I grew up with him starting in early 70's. IMHO, younger ppl see he is not playing a Rhodes, but his music, I hope is being listened to by those same ppl. 

 

BTW, I never dissed Dan Goldman as my comment wasn't about the music per say. I was conjuring up what the best promotion would be to promote the new Rhodes. Dan is killing it but when I see the name Rhodes, I hear Herbie (and Chick, and Zawinul, etc.) I guess life experiences is time based. All the best to Dan Goldman and new music; I'm stuck in Hard Bop most of the time.