PianoMan51 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Reezekeys said: I guess those of you against "free advertising" also remove or tape over the badging on your cars? 🙂 Day one: remove the license plate holder advertising the car dealer. The rest is more difficult. I do remember parking behind a car, then noticing that the metal letters spelled out the name of the manufacturer… DORF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Only times I've run into this is working for bands doing TV shoots, because it's a financial thing between the TV network and instrument manufacturers. Otherwise I don't cover anything up because I don't get paid to endorse them. I have removed a Fender logo off a speaker cabinet that I had replacement the grill cloth with black for a stealth look so not be noticeable on stage in a pit band. I bought cars and told the dealer not to put their dealership sticker on my car unless they want to knock more off the price. I don't mind the manufacturers badges on the car but dealership sticker are usually really cheesy looking and can mess the finish up taking it off myself. Those who say they don't want to advertise who made their gear is that all your gear, what about your car, your appliances at home, your lawn mower. Do you take the Nike swoosh and Adidas stripes off your kids sneakers. Where do you stop with this pay me stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polychrest Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Nord offered me 500 Kronor to cover their logo when I play in public…. 1 14 Quote "The more a man looks at a thing, the less he can see it, and the more a man learns a thing, the less he knows it." --G.K. Chesterton. A lazy rationalization for not practising as much as I should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo Fett Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Old No7 said: I'd only do it for a Casio........ But it's fine on my other boards. 😉 Old No7 Well...my Px5S SOUNDS better than I PLAY, so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Gehrig Charles Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, PianoMan51 said: Day one: remove the license plate holder advertising the car dealer. I usually leave that thing on the car. Just because people like commenting on it! "[i]What, are they paying you to advertise?[/i]" Apparently it bothers them more than it does me. Fortunately most dealers around here have finally stopped using the stickers. As mentioned above, those can be hard to remove and can damage the paint. In the old days, they used to be mounted with screws! No more of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Nope - if I’m gigging a keyboard, it means it’s a good enough product for me to stand behind it. I don’t use garbage - if I use it, I can vouch for it. I was inspired to get into electric keyboards years ago by seeing someone playing a Korg Triton in a band that sounded great, and I could identify what it was. 2 Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76| Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT, Kurzweil PC4 (88) Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Put me down in the "why should I spend effort to worry about free advertising". In no case would I ever expect to get anything back from a keyboard company for using their gear, so it doesn't help or hurt me if a logo is visible. ymmv Speaking of cars, I find some of the giant car brand logos--the example that comes to mind is F O R D on the grill of their giant trucks--pretty obnoxious. Small little oval "Ford" is fine, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Schiller Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Yes, I absolutely obscure the logo. It is visual clutter, extraneous information. And since the audience is simply looking at you for a long time, that visual clutter draws attention away from more important things, such as the visual of you! The performer! It might seem silly, but the keyboard logos are very often right in the primary sight line. And honestly, comparing concerts to where its visible to where it's not...in the larger context, the logos are simply ugly. I say that as a total keyboard nerd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Old No7 said: I'd only do it for a Casio........ But it's fine on my other boards. 😉 Old No7 Sorry, OT: I sat quietly and bit my tongue at a rehearsal on Saturday afternoon while the other musicians joked about another keyboard player who showed up at a gig with a Casio. FWIW... I was using a Numa Compact 2x at that rehearsal, although on other occasions with other bands, I've rehearsed with my Casio CT-x700 and gigged with my Casio CGP-700. Like most in-the-know keyboardists, I personally think Casio's boards, at least since the Privias first showed up 15-20 years ago, kick azzz, especially for the price point. IMO the only problem with Casio boards, at least among non-keyboardist musicians, is Casio's legacy reputation. Hopefully, as more top shelf players use Casios on stage, Casio's rep will self-correct. 3 Quote Gigs: Nord 5D 73, Kurz PC4-7 & SP4-7, Hammond SK1, Yamaha MX88 & P121, Numa Compact 2x, Casio CGP700, QSC K12, Yamaha DBR10, JBL515xt(2). Alto TS310(2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Casios definitely get joked about among some players, which is really dumb. Yamaha has a bunch of low-end consumer keyboards too, as do others. Those same dingleberries would probably snark at a guitarist with a Squier. Gear snobs, no time for 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Reezekeys said: I guess those of you against "free advertising" also remove or tape over the badging on your cars? 🙂 Reeze for the WIN! Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Franz Schiller said: visual clutter draws attention away from more important things, such as the visual of you! The performer! It might seem silly Extremely ....... 🤣 Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xp50player Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Do guitar players cover the brands on their guitars or amps? To me, fans are interested in the gear you use and it enhances their enthusiasm for the band, so why make it difficult, just to stick it to The Man, which probably makes no difference at all? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr -G- Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 hours ago, konaboy said: I only ever use black tape to change Roland to Poland. Ha ha! I saw a Polish band video that did the same thing. And I remember somebody modifying the 'Nord' logo in to 'Nerd'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, xp50player said: Do guitar players cover the brands on their guitars or amps? To me, fans are interested in the gear you use and it enhances their enthusiasm for the band, so why make it difficult, just to stick it to The Man, which probably makes no difference at all? In general guitar player don't worry about things like covering up logo, the type of guitar your using in general is pretty identifiable by the body and headstock shape. Sometime on TV shows you'll see amps with the company name covered up, trying to put crap on a guitarist headstock you're asking for trouble. Now there is Jazz guitar legend Barney Kessel who famously cover the name Gibson up on the headstock of his guitar. Barney had major issues with Gibson over their endorsement and Barney Kessel model guitar they made for awhile. I went to hear Barney play solo guitar at McCabes Guitar Shop that had a small concert room. Being a guitar oriented place Barney did a Q&A session during the concert. Some guy in the audience asked Barney why is there tape on the headstock of his guitar. Barney said... a certain guitar company has no respect for Jazz guitarists. Then Barney said.... if you like your name up there for $5 I will write it on piece of masking tape and leave it for the rest of the night. Everyone got a laugh out of that and Barney start back playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3plyr Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I have a lot more to worry about in my performing than whether the logo shows. I could care less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Docbop said: In general guitar player don't worry about things like covering up logo, the type of guitar your using in general is pretty identifiable by the body and headstock shape. Sometime on TV shows you'll see amps with the company name covered up, trying to put crap on a guitarist headstock you're asking for trouble. In general, generalizations about guitar players are more or less as accurate as generalizations about keyboard players. 😇 Which is to say, sometimes, maybe or maybe not or both or something... Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggypants Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Well now I'm thinking I'll cover my 'boards logos over with a big BONTEMPI 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon E Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Polychrest said: Nord offered me 500 Krona to cover their logo when I play in public…. They pay 1000 kroner if you label it Korg, Yamaha or Roland. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr -G- said: It could be worse... the keyboard company asking the player to cover the logo! 😀 If the keyboard company asks you to cover yourself up so that they arent embarrassed about you using their equipment. 1 2 Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I would do it, but it has nothing to do with advertising or whatever. I just think anything that minimizes visual clutter is worth doing, and those logos are often distractingly large. 1 Quote Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Old No7 said: I'd only do it for a Casio........ Same here. I've never played one that I've gotten along with. Sounds, action, IDK. Last one I played was at an outdoor gospel concert last July. I was only doing two songs, so I asked if they had something available. Needless to say, I wish I'd brought my MODX-7, even for just two songs. They had a WK-8000, and that was the last time I ever laid hands on a Casio. Quote Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrokeys Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 My lawnmower says Troybilt right on top where anyone can see it. My snow thrower says Ariens. I'm pretty sure anyone who cares to look can find out what kind of chainsaw I have when I'm using it. My vehicle is a Toyota even though as an SUV it looks like everyone elses, I've kept the hood badge. I don't cover those... why would I care about my keyboards. Yes, on a sponsored show on TV or some corporate venue where a competitor might be footing the expenses. I can see why "free" advertsing might be a concern. Otherwise use the damn tape to hold your X brace stand together. Life is too short. Like the fellow said "Lighten up, Francis." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Being a synth fanatic, I've always appreciated Ron Mael of Sparks, who played a Jupiter-8 live. The Roland logo was amended to say 'Ronald.' Quote "You seem pretty calm about all that." "Well, inside, I'm screaming. ~ "The Lazarus Project" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcvbnm098 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Anderton said: I would do it, but it has nothing to do with advertising or whatever. I just think anything that minimizes visual clutter is worth doing, and those logos are often distractingly large. This is a succinct response and why I am in the process of looking to cover up my Nord and Kurz front logos and put some other graphics on it. Amps I don't care about because they're not front and center on stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyNQ Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I’ve never covered a keyboard logo but I have gaffer-taped over a very prominent hand-scrawled backline company’s name as I felt it badly detracted from stage presentation. As a general rule I don’t worry about logos - the above was an exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piktor Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Some past (2008) thoughts on this topic: https://forums.musicplayer.com/topic/122319-ever-think-of-covering-the-brand-name-on-your-gear/#comments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farfisakid Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 8:32 AM, Old No7 said: I'd only do it for a Casio........ But it's fine on my other boards. 😉 Old No7 l covered the logo on my GP 310 with my name plate mostly because it was to prominent on the screen for online lessons but also because of the stigma. For the record Casios Rock …😊 Quote https://www.rcmusic.com/teachers/m/mario-recupero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphollis Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I can't find the pictures, but for a while I was playing what looked like a "No Piano" and a "No Stage". I have a twisted sense of humor sometimes. Quote Want to make your band better? Check out "A Guide To Starting (Or Improving!) Your Own Local Band" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassdad Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 21 hours ago, HSS said: Sorry, OT: I sat quietly and bit my tongue at a rehearsal on Saturday afternoon while the other musicians joked about another keyboard player who showed up at a gig with a Casio. FWIW... I was using a Numa Compact 2x at that rehearsal, although on other occasions with other bands, I've rehearsed with my Casio CT-x700 and gigged with my Casio CGP-700. Like most in-the-know keyboardists, I personally think Casio's boards, at least since the Privias first showed up 15-20 years ago, kick azzz, especially for the price point. IMO the only problem with Casio boards, at least among non-keyboardist musicians, is Casio's legacy reputation. Hopefully, as more top shelf players use Casios on stage, Casio's rep will self-correct. We might not know it’s a Casio if they take the logo / name off!….. Quote Ludwig van Beethoven: “To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.” My Rig: Yamaha MOXF8 (used mostly for acoustic piano voices); Motion Sound KP-612SX & SL-512. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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