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Late addition to this zombie thread. Finally got the Reface CP after sweetwater got it in stock. Only real intention was to have something to reach for at my desk at home besides one of my guitars (am not a good guitarist).... Yes, the raw sounds (esp, Rhodes, Wurli, and Clav) are out of sight....and the effects bank is just sick. Tend to always have a little slapback echo on, small splash of chorus, that beautiful reverb to taste, and tremolo as needed. And the overdrive is not a joke, either. The one thing that would be neat is to use the aux-in to run through the effects....but....not possible. Not that I can see anyway. No, you can't play anything "technical" or even fast with the minikeys....don't believe me? Try to do a fast single-note trill....the action just won't allow for it. It's still a very playable keyboard, though, given its limitations. But comes with a MIDI breakout cable so Yamaha's weird little MIDI connector works with a real keyboard. And, of course, there's a lot one *can* play on those little keys....I think the first two tunes I could think of when opening it up were "Sheep" and "Money"....anything like that is fine. Clav (or Wurli) with the autowah? Nice. Have it in a little no-name pseudo-hard case for bringing in the car if I really want to be a menace to society while driving. Invested in a bunch of decent rechargeable AA batteries. It's perfect for its original purpose (just a handy instrument to reach for instead of guitar when trying to figure something out, or to take with me if I have some time to kill running errands &c.) but is a beautiful module for a full controller as well. -
Well, to my understanding this version has more features and more modulation possibilities, so maybe it should to be thought of more as a small modular system that as a classic Mini architecture... btw I suspect that I would use a maximum of 4 oscillators for audio, and use the other two as lfos... Speaking of which, I hope that the poly modes (4, 8 or 16 voices) are really polyphonic, and not some form of "paraphony". -
Sorry to do a minor de-rail here, but the Montage M8x weight, do you manage that ok? I was looking at one but the physical size and weight precludes it from a lot of venues, well for me anyway. -
Tread carefully. The old CDR70, MS50, etc. all already have USB midi. ( i use the $13 dollar aliexpress m-vave midi bluetooth wireless for a host). The new ones add some somewhat useful navigation switches, but take away some other stuff. I don't have one to do a side by side compare, but i'd say do some homework before you jump in. -
Getting back to plugins... Which DAW do you have? In many ways, vocal EQ is not particularly demanding, because you can change EQ with the mic and mic positioning. For my voice, anything with a high shelf, low cut, and a couple parametric stages will solve any problem I throw at it. I can't think of a DAW that doesn't offer those options. Compression is a little dicier, so please read Why I Don't Use Compressors Anymore. DSP and some limiting does 90% of what I need. I hardly ever use compression on voice. Listen to the vocals on my YouTube channel to hear what my (mostly) compression-less vocals sound like. As with EQ, if you're not relying on "designer compressors," whatever is in your DAW will do what you need. Sure, maybe an LA-2 would be nice, but there are inexpensive and even free versions if you really want that particular vocal effect. So now that I've saved you all that money, you can think about a vocoder. Arturia's Vocoder V is $149, Antares vocoder collection is $179. I think Waves Morphoder is horribly underrated--I've used it a lot, even over expensive plugins. It's a little harder to figure out at first, but for $30, it's a steal. However, you don't even need to spend that, because there are a bunch of freebies that are quite good. Okay! You found a good, free vocoder, and now you have $250 left in your budget - so blow it on Melodyne Assistant. Yes, it's $240 (but if you have a copy of Melodyne Essential that came as a freebie add on to a DAW or interface you can upgrade for $150). Here's the deal. Basic pitch correction sounds bad and annoying. Melodyne Assistant has tools that let you make subtle, natural-sounding changes to vocals where, once you learn how to use the program, people won't even know you corrected pitch. This is especially true if you follow Anderton's Law of Pitch Correction ("correct only notes that actually sound wrong"). Melodyne Assistant is a precision tool and the price reflects that. But think of all the money you saved with the other plugins... Just remember: Plugins will NOT make your voice sound good. How well you know how to use your plugins and do mic placement will make your voice sound good Follow-up questions are welcome!
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By John Tweed · Posted
OT - just a comment on the original white face Oddy - I modified mine so I had an octave up/down switch. Also changed the pitch knob to one which had a notch sticking out so that I could curl my little finger round it and be confident that I could return it to the neutral position. And I managed to rewire the modulation slider on the first oscillator so that the second oscillator modulated too. It was all very ambitious of me, with not much real understanding of what I was doing, but it worked nicely. i hung onto it for years, only selling it off about 10 years ago. Nowadays I occasionally use the app on the iPad. It’s close enough for me. -
Waaaay back when....I bought a white face ARP Odyssey off a friend of our drummer. Never had my eye on one, but it was a great deal and I needed one more synth for my rig. Probably did 200 gigs with it. I used it a ton, and it never let me down. I eventually sold it to help pay for a brand new DX7 when they first hit the streets. (Ya, it was that long ago) I honestly have never missed it - not even once, and would not buy another one, regardless of who makes it or how inexpensive they are. Too many better options out there these days. Odysseys always sounded a little too "thin" for my tastes. I much prefer a synth that can do "fat".....and any 37 note keyboards are generally an automatic pass for me now. -
By charliepersol · Posted
I just bought one used two days ago. I had in the past (a very past) the original ARP Odissey and an Avatar (the guitar version of the Odissey). They sounded quite differenti, and now I understand why: two different version of the filter. A friend of mine still have the all black one with coloured sliders, which Is again different, maybe two poles filter? Anyway the Behringer sounds good but a bit differenti too. My ARP had a ring modulator I used to build fabolous bell like sounds: metallic, full of harmonics. The kind of sound you can hear on Japan Tin Drum or Oil on Canvas albums. Until now I couldn't recreate this sound. Neither the Avatar did. Just my ARP Odissey I sold for little Money :(
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