Song80s Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 "On a Scale of 10, Rate the Internal Reward of Your Music Production" Try to evaluate your musical production satisfaction over a long period of time, lets say from 6 months to 5 years. Or longer. The time period is up to you. Note the topic is about " Internal " satisfaction. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 I am 9.5/10 Recently, I overcame a week long hassle with Soundcloud on my licensing of a song. But I persisted, played the game, and got the approval. That process was a slight impact to my music production. I find creating music to be highly rewarding. Every day. Not bragging. I enjoy what I do. FYI, I don't care about the money side. That has zero to do with ' internal reward '. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Verelst Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I got to tell you Greg, it's hard to score sooooo high for me. I'd only say I feel so high a score if I'd put a hit on the Fusion Hot 100 that I'd feel in line with the previous century greats! There's been an interesting development however in the last years I've tried to make processing and synthesizer/workstation/ROMpler signal path improvements along the lines of the showing congruence with known productions that I and most people like. Recently the work started to show results in terms of sounds I like, which leads to me liking productions I can create better. It's a highly complicated matter, but having better sounds in my feelings leads to more satisfying productions, thought that remains a complicated balancing process as well. Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Sigh. I hate to say, actually. It has not been good lately. That's only slightly due to the pandemic, I think. Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 My main regret about my music production as far as internal reward is that I don't do more of it. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I love creating music and have developed my production skills. The problem is having the time to do it, especially the last four years when I was busy with elder care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 My main regret about my music production as far as internal reward is that I don't do more of it. dB Same here, but I get soooooo much satisfaction just sitting at a keyboard or stack of keyboards and just playing whatever notes that come into my head. It is both relaxation and release. 9 out of 10 for me. Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 I got to tell you Greg, it's hard to score sooooo high for me. I'd only say I feel so high a score if I'd put a hit on the Fusion Hot 100 that I'd feel in line with the previous century greats! There's been an interesting development however in the last years I've tried to make processing and synthesizer/workstation/ROMpler signal path improvements along the lines of the showing congruence with known productions that I and most people like. Recently the work started to show results in terms of sounds I like, which leads to me liking productions I can create better. It's a highly complicated matter, but having better sounds in my feelings leads to more satisfying productions, thought that remains a complicated balancing process as well. Theo The fusion Hot 100 . Thats great ! I am on the Luke Warm and still kicking 10 million You bring up an important music production consideration. Your project sounds long term and intensive. It takes time, patience. etc. My ' stuff ' is short term, 3 week song projects. Thats how I feed my muse everyday. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Sigh. I hate to say, actually. It has not been good lately. That's only slightly due to the pandemic, I think. I hear you. If music is your life, life is challenged, unreasonably. I watch the news on Houston and Covid almost every day. Somehow, in 1 year, our lives will be much improved. People think I am crazy when I assert this, but thats what I believe. I also believe we have to Find a Silver Lining. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 On a scale of 10, shuddup! 10 harmonics isn't even remotely enough to cover the spread. Some days, I just push the notes around like unwanted peas on a kid's plate until turning it all off because I'm clearly stuck in a Null setting. (No sin, it even happened to Zappa, a bit.) Sometimes, I give in to a new library and review the patches as a form of First World meditation. Then there are the sessions where I end up with a tidy handful of Farther Along, which is immensely satisfying. I also believe it was a Francis Preve MonoPoly patch that sounded like a well-tuned farting mosquito. The first time I played it for my sister, she sprayed Pepsi. Its a bit hard to qualify that, but it was damned well rewarding! Quote "I like that rapper with the bullet in his nose!" "Yeah, Bulletnose! One sneeze and the whole place goes up!" ~ "King of the Hill" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 I love creating music and have developed my production skills. The problem is having the time to do it, especially the last four years when I was busy with elder care. Time is more precious than money. I retired 4 years ago and can set my own schedule, plan my day, screw off, etc. And I figured out many years ago, that the simple life works for me. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 My main regret about my music production as far as internal reward is that I don't do more of it. dB Same here, but I get soooooo much satisfaction just sitting at a keyboard or stack of keyboards and just playing whatever notes that come into my head. It is both relaxation and release. 9 out of 10 for me. Great ! In a recent post, we discussed the release of endorphins, dopamine into the brain, when immersed in music production. Its a Floating in a Cloud sensation. Wife also notices this Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Long term, I'm dissatisfied / ashamed. Maybe a 2.5. I was damn near a prodigy through high school and even somewhat in college, but I grew lazy and never took my musicianship where my natural talents could have gone. Short term, day-by-day? Oddly, closer to 8. I get plenty of pleasure out of noodling nightly on a couple of keyboards. Not very productive -- when magic happens, it usually passes by and is not remembered the next morning -- but quite satisfying. Quote -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyS Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I'll cut this question into two parts, beginning and finishing tracks. The first one is an 8. The second one somewhere subzero...... Quote Rudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Good one, Rudy I use to have 20 song ideas all at once And after a few years, I realized I didn't finish anything. I got determined. Some self talk: nobody notices if you just show up to a race its about how you finish Finishing separates the men from the boys Either you are serious about showing off your work or you just want to noodle around, its up to you Kick your ass into focusing and finishing the song or track I have recorded/published 80 original songs. And I am not done. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Not sure for me I don't really believe recorded music gives me the same high as playing live. That's where it matters to me as the proof is in the pudding when it comes to what a bands do. That's where the big boys play. I was talking about this with a well known club owner the other day. Too often people can't replicate things live they have recorded and it comes off thin or uninspired. Recording is a part of the equation for me. I don't really like it, It's boring and takes a lot of time. That said I really respect people that are studio rats because it is a discipline to be able to lay down tracks well. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Mark, it depends what your priorities and goals and strengths are. No dependence on local conditions here. I am making progress growing a listener base on my SoundCloud world wide. I get that great buzz from my serious listeners. I have little interest in playing live, locally , at this time. Crime, logistics, cost, quirky venues, power failures are the obstacles. I know what works for me. We can choose whatever musical path that makes sense. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mike Metlay Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 9.5/10, only because there's always room for improvement. My studio is where it needs to be, my consulting gigs give me lots of time to write and perform music and create videos about cool new synths (coming soon in the GearLab), and I have a fabulous and supportive community of fellow musicians who love my concerts and my radio station. I am living my best life, and I try every day to remind myself of how bleeping LUCKY I am. Quote Dr. Mike Metlay (PhD in nuclear physics, golly gosh) Musician, Author, Editor, Educator, Impresario, Online Radio Guy, Cut-Rate Polymath, and Kindly Pedant Editor-in-Chief, Bjooks ~ Author of SYNTH GEMS 1 clicky!: more about me ~ my radio station (and my fam) ~ my local tribe ~ my day job ~ my book ~ my music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 great, welcome to the 9.5 club You have a great story. You made it all happen. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 My internal reward is "this one goes to 11" Music is my therapy, and my joy. Anytime and anywhere I get to play music is always a 10. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 My internal reward is "this one goes to 11" Music is my therapy, and my joy. Anytime and anywhere I get to play music is always a 10. Pretty much this as well. For me one of the few highlights of 2020 will be finishing a full album. It may never happen again - until the next pandemic Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 "On a Scale of 10, Rate the Internal Reward of Your Music Production" Try to evaluate your musical production satisfaction over a long period of time, lets say from 6 months to 5 years. Or longer.. Not sure for me I don't really believe recorded music gives me the same high as playing live. That's where it matters to me as the proof is in the pudding when it comes to what a bands do. That's where the big boys play. I was talking about this with a well known club owner the other day. Too often people can't replicate things live they have recorded and it comes off thin or uninspired. Recording is a part of the equation for me. I don't really like it, It's boring and takes a lot of time. The topic changed from the title to the post. The title says "rate the internal reward of your music." The post adds the word "production." That changes everything. Playing live is where it's at for me. Studio production is not. The internal reward of playing live music can be off the scale of 10, depending on the music and the players I'm playing with. If they're really good and the music takes off into that transcendent place, there is no higher high. The rating goes to 11. Music production, in the sense of recording tracks is a tedious and boring chore. It's just work, so it rates somewhere at the low end of the scale. Quote These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 you make a good point. Its not my intent to be restrictive. Or pit " Studio music production satisfaction vs producing/performing live music We have our strengths and preferences . Its not a surprise, we are playing to preferences, what gives us that internal buzz. As you said recording is tedious and boring- for you. And you have a dependency: "off the scale of 10, depending on the music and the players I'm playing with. If they're really good and the music takes off into that transcendent place, there is no higher high. The rating goes to 11." I control my music production destiny. Every day. No if's. Its on me. I am not dependent on other musicians to jam with. 2 seemingly opposite statements can be equally true. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Playing live is where it's at for me. Studio production is not. The internal reward of playing live music can be off the scale of 10, depending on the music and the players I'm playing with. If they're really good and the music takes off into that transcendent place, there is no higher high. The rating goes to 11. Music production, in the sense of recording tracks is a tedious and boring chore. It's just work, so it rates somewhere at the low end of the scale. Nicely put. That sums up anything I would have had to say on the subject except that for myself, I would have added "stressful" to the tedious and boring chore of studio recording. OOO Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 Recording in a studio , home, or full on studio, successfully, is a skill. And its a preference and an art to pursue. 4 years ago, when I started laying down tracks, they sounded rough. I cringe today, when I hear them. But like most things, over time, a person improves a skill. I mentioned I am building an audience to my recorded material. Since these are my ' babies ', I get immense internal reward from listeners all over there world. And yes, I get it here, I have noticed that many here have gigs, love the crowd, get lots on internal satisfaction etc etc. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Usually, I'm horribly self-critical. Not that I consider my music horrible, but every time I listen to it after a period of time, I can't help thinking about all the things that could have been done better. Better solos, better interplay, better arrangement, better sound, etc. About productivity, I'm not writing much these days, maybe for the first time in my life. Fact is, I have 10-12 albums ready to be recorded, and probably, the majority of them will never see the light. So it feels a bit silly to write more music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 Usually, I'm horribly self-critical. Not that I consider my music horrible, but every time I listen to it after a period of time, I can't help thinking about all the things that could have been done better. Better solos, better interplay, better arrangement, better sound, etc. About productivity, I'm not writing much these days, maybe for the first time in my life. Fact is, I have 10-12 albums ready to be recorded, and probably, the majority of them will never see the light. So it feels a bit silly to write more music. that's very common. It can be conquered. Rudy made a similar remark above. My answer [ copy/paste]: I use to have 20 song ideas all at once And after a few years, I realized I didn't finish anything. I got determined. Some self talk: nobody notices if you just show up to a race its about how you finish Finishing separates the men from the boys Either you are serious about showing off your work or you just want to noodle around, its up to you Kick your ass into focusing and finishing the song or track Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 And you have a dependency: "off the scale of 10, depending on the music and the players I'm playing with. If they're really good and the music takes off into that transcendent place, there is no higher high. The rating goes to 11." I control my music production destiny. Every day. No if's. Its on me. I am not dependent on other musicians to jam with. Preface: I'm only teasing. I think of these threads as sitting in the pub, hoisting a beverage, and blathering away. But you have a dependency too. In the studio you are dependent on quality and expensive gear, software, and on other musicians if you don't do all the playing yourself. If you do all the playing yourself, you are limited by your abilities on all instruments. If you can't play horns and instead use synthetic horns to play a part, your music production suffers. Spoken as a sax player. Quote These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Skills wise , i get better every day even as I get old. I am happy I can still get better. But I'm far being as good as say rick wakeman. And I dont have enough years to get that good. That makes me sad. Financially, for every nickle I've made in music I've spent a thousand nickels. That's a bummer. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 Skills wise , i get better every day even as I get old. I am happy I can still get better. But I'm far being as good as say rick wakeman. And I dont have enough years to get that good. That makes me sad. r. you will never be Rick Wakeman. Or Herbie Hancock. But you can be yourself. Rick and Herbie will never be you . Or me. I am cool with that. Like I said, in my o/p. Forget about the $. That has zero to do with ' internal reward ' Listen to the old man. Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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