Master Zap Posted August 14, 2001 Share Posted August 14, 2001 [quote] -As for the guitars, i was going for a "mayhem" sort of thing at the solo. I think that i used too much of the one thick marshall sound though and perhaps some creative eq ing is in fact in order to clear up the mud.[/quote] Well I would use less mud and more grit, i.e. carve an EQ hole somewhere in the mud region (200-400 hz, I dunno exactly on guitars where the mud sits [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] ) and brighten the top a tad, right now its kinda smeared. True, you will be brightening the very frequencies that hurt my ears but hey, you didnt write this song for ME, now didya? [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [quote]On the drums.. is it the performance, the recorded sound, the way they were treated in mixing,(Which was actually very little), could you be specific as to what you'd like to hear instead? No hard feelings, really, slam away[/quote] Uh, well, I guess its the recorded sound.... or possibly mixing. As for recording drums (mics, whatnot) I am totally outside of my sphere of experience so I will just sit here looking confused and silly... but in general the whole sound is rather "thin" and I would prolly hit the entire drum mix with a *shitload* of compression. But I like big-bad-drums and this might not be what you are after at all so I might be barking up the wrong tree.... I've been known to use the L1 Ultramaximizer to totally crunch drumtracks to oblivion. Craig Andertons "QuadraFuzz" (a multi band distorsion effect) is a cool thingy on drums as well. I want my snares to "smack", kicks to go ka-THUMP and shake the flor, hats to chick-ety-chick in a rather gritty fashion.... but thats ME. [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] Actually it would be very fun to try to mix this song. Could you possibly send the tracks to me burned as WAV files to a CD-R and I can tinker? Just for the hell of it? /Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 15, 2001 Share Posted August 15, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by Master Zap: [b] Actually it would be very fun to try to mix this song. Could you possibly send the tracks to me burned as WAV files to a CD-R and I can tinker? Just for the hell of it? /Z[/b][/quote] Are you Joking me?!! I would love that!!! Let's get in touch through email and sort what you need. jimholland@whtvcable.com Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Zap Posted August 15, 2001 Share Posted August 15, 2001 To quote the great thespian Tom Hanks in his fantastic cinematic experience perform together the distinguished Meg Ryan: "You've got mail" [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] /Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etnier Posted August 15, 2001 Share Posted August 15, 2001 [b] [url=http://www.studiodual.com/disquesdual]Lots and lots of my music...[/url] [/b] ------------------ John Etnier [b] [url=http://www.studiodual.com]Studio Dual[/url] [/b] John Etnier Studio Dual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_dup1 Posted August 16, 2001 Share Posted August 16, 2001 Hie everyone, try anything on this page [url=http://www.mp3.com/strypedassedape.]www.mp3.com/strypedassedape.[/url] Any feedback is welcome. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagovbellatlantic.net Posted August 16, 2001 Share Posted August 16, 2001 mp3.com/Stanley_Sagov Jazz,Fusion...I would love some more feedback.. http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/278/stanley_sagov.html http://artistlaunch.com/artist3.asp?artistid=2908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted August 16, 2001 Share Posted August 16, 2001 Zap wrote: [quote][b]Hmmm. You all know I am not a big fan of acoustic drums, because they are so hard to get "right".[/b][/quote] AHA!!!! So he admits it! If they weren't so hard to get "right" you WOULD prefer to use real drums, wouldn't you, huh, huh? [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] So you're just like all the rest - you use electronic drums cuz they're "easier". WHAT A COP-OUT!! Tried to slip that one by me, didn't you? Well you're BUSTED!! [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] --Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Zap Posted August 16, 2001 Share Posted August 16, 2001 Bwahahaha, no Lee. WRONG. I use electronic drums because I want an electronic sound. C'mon, would I have been the author of the worlds most famous drum-sound synthesis program, [url=http://www.master-zap.com/stomper]Stomper[/url] , if I didn't? Nice try though. Besides I was only trying to be polite. And frankly, that sentence should have "because" changed to "and you know". /Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 17, 2001 Share Posted August 17, 2001 I think she has a crush on you Zap. Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Darling Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by taucere: [b]Here's some IMHO quality electronics that deserves a larger audience [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Seriously, any feedback would be very interesting. We can be reached at contact@vimpel.no[/b][/quote] Hi nice dance tune, the only thing that is really missing is vocals. Not an annoing sample but more like spoken, or something Master Zap, I've listen to your song "Do you do you love me", and I have to say that I'll need few more listeing before I can make my mind on this one : first immpression is wierd singing line in the first verse (it takes getting used to), but a pleasent tune. I'll check it again and let you know. Nice pictures and nice vocal (kiss your wife) [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] Enjoy Danny ------------------ Visit http://www.DarlingNikkie.com/sounds for free MP3's Rotshtein Danny - Studio Engineer Jingles show-reel Visit DarlingNikkie.com To discover the sounds of "Darling Nikkie"(aka Jade 4U). . . . New exciting project Goddess of Destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve LeBlanc Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 Hey guys, check out this new tune...totally different than our other stuff...seat belts recommended. [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] [b]"Tired Horses"[/b] http://www.jamfree.com/music.htm http://www.youtube.com/notesleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Zap Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [quote]first immpression is wierd singing line in the first verse (it takes getting used to), but a pleasent tune[/quote] The singing line in the first verse is the same as in the other verses as far as I know. Whats so strange about it? [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] It is a little bit 60's influenced yeah but I wouldnt label it as "strange". Not "go-go-gajoob" strange anyway [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] /Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Darling Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by Master Zap: [b] The singing line in the first verse is the same as in the other verses as far as I know. Whats so strange about it? [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] It is a little bit 60's influenced yeah but I wouldnt label it as "strange". Not "go-go-gajoob" strange anyway [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] /Z[/b][/quote] Hi Master Zap, I've listen to your song yet again !! And it starts grooving. the chorus is very nice... as for the verses singing line - weird was the wrong word, they are a bit choppy though. But it is a matter of taste [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] Good jub, ------------------ Visit http://www.DarlingNikkie.com/sounds for free MP3's Rotshtein Danny - Studio Engineer Jingles show-reel Visit DarlingNikkie.com To discover the sounds of "Darling Nikkie"(aka Jade 4U). . . . New exciting project Goddess of Destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansouth Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by Lee Flier: [b]AHA!!!! So he admits it! If they weren't so hard to get "right" you WOULD prefer to use real drums, wouldn't you, huh, huh? [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] So you're just like all the rest - you use electronic drums cuz they're "easier". WHAT A COP-OUT!! [/b][/quote] Yeah, Lee. I'm sure you'd play everything on acoustic guitar, but you use electric for most things because it's EASIER, right? [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] Hmm, lots of new stuff here. I'll have to check it out and get back to y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Zap Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 [quote]weird was the wrong word, they are a bit choppy though. But it is a matter of taste [/quote] I had a specific "60's tone" in mind when I wrote that line... it didnt really occur to me until afterwords that I was probably thinking in the lines of "Eleanor Rigby" melody line..... (structurally). So when I started to actually produce it, I worked a looot with sampled string ensembless (I have a rich collection of AKAI sample CD's w. real string stuff). But then Nina came in and said "YUK", toss them STRINGS *OUT* [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] So in the end we did, and we got that cool guitar instead, and I think the result is better that way. /Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip McDonald Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by Master Zap: [b]I use electronic drums because I want an electronic sound. C'mon, would I have been the author of the worlds most famous drum-sound synthesis program, [url=http://www.master-zap.com/stomper]Stomper[/url] , if I didn't? [/b][/quote] Hey! That's you? I use Hammerhead, one time long ago I think I used Stomper version "?" (back when Hammerhead was "new") to add overtones to some HR16 samples.. Had to quit because I started thinking "if I mess with this long enough, I can just keep adding harmonics until I get EXACTLY the sounds I want... but it might take forever to decide that... It had that funny "test" about registering, didn't it? Have to send in music? Great program; I tried hand editing beat by beat those samples into a track once, then after wasting about a week doing that gave up... I don't think I used those samples for anything else so I can't send you any to fulfil my registration duties. Somewhere I have some Hammerhead tracks of some very weird electronica stuff, but no one gets to hear that.... Couldn't you write that engine to accept midi input as a primitive (but easily tweaked, which I think is the brilliant thing about your program (unless that's changed?)) soft-synth? For anyone wanting to added emphasis to drum samples in a discrete way it probably can't get easier to to make harmonics in an exacting way than Stomper.... or custom 808 sounds. ------------------ [b]New and Improved Music Soon:[/b] http://www.mp3.com/chipmcdonald Guitar Lessons in Augusta Georgia: www.chipmcdonald.com Eccentric blog: https://chipmcdonaldblog.blogspot.com/ / "big ass windbag" - Bruce Swedien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadMozart Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 The song "Yours" is a pop tune I recorded over a decade ago on very limited equipment (I started a new topic on this forum regarding early productions made with limited gear). But, I think the reason I like this tune and this production is because of how skimpy the project studio was when I first started - it was also a lot of fun. I hope you enjoy - and let me have your feedback with both barrels, it's so long ago now, I can take it [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] Cheers, Mark http://www.broadjam.com/artistprofile/artistindex.asp?artistID=936 http://www.broadjam.com/artistprofile/artistindex.asp?artistID=936 or listen at... http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/294/mark_coming_project.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trick fall Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 I finally have some tunes up at [url=http://www.thedopes.net/music.php]www.thedopes.net/music.php[/url] Would love to get some feedback. I'd say I Wanna is the catchiest , in a snotty garage rock kinda way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trick fall Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 Regurgitron kicks ass. ------------------ [url=http://www.thedopes.net cause]www.thedopes.net cause[/url] sometimes the rhetoric don't go with the contents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by Steve LeBlanc: [b]Hey guys, check out this new tune...totally different than our other stuff...seat belts recommended. [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] [b]"Tired Horses"[/b] http://www.jamfree.com/music.htm [/B][/quote] "This is very Un-commercial music" was my first thought. Dunno why. I admire your energy. You guys are fabulous musicians. I listened to soiled alms also and then a couple more tunes. I was genuinely entertained. Very creative stuff. And one again nice playing! You are making some very un-inhibited music. It sounds like it is fun to play and obviously challenging. Keep moving forward. We need more folks like this. Mi 2 sense http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/279/jim_holland.html Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F7sound - Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by trickfall@yahoo.com: [b]Regurgitron kicks ass. [/b][/quote] Thanks for your compliment! http://www.mp3.com/regurgitron Michael Oster ReGurgiTron F7 Sound and Vision http://www.f7sound.com Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.F7sound.com http://www.regurgitron.com http://www.LaptopNoise.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve LeBlanc Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 Yep, Regurgitron kicks ass! [quote]"This is very Un-commercial music" was my first thought. Dunno why.[/quote] Yeah Jim, it's very Un-Commercial but I keep fooling myself into thinking it's very accessible to all...my evidence?...well the young kids I play it for love it! [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Thanks a lot for listening and for the kind words...I listened to your 'wall of guitars' tune a few days ago...I liked it, you have a really unique voice, keep on jamming. I hope Zap can help you with your mix...I'm no engineer (which should be obvious when listening to my stuff) but I think your mix could use some improvement. Peace. http://www.youtube.com/notesleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by Steve LeBlanc: [b]Yep, Regurgitron kicks ass! Yeah Jim, it's very Un-Commercial but I keep fooling myself into thinking it's very accessible to all...my evidence?...well the young kids I play it for love it! [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Thanks a lot for listening and for the kind words...I listened to your 'wall of guitars' tune a few days ago...I liked it, you have a really unique voice, keep on jamming. I hope Zap can help you with your mix...I'm no engineer (which should be obvious when listening to my stuff) but I think your mix could use some improvement. Peace. [/b][/quote] Another thought i was having while listening to your music was that it would be very fun indeed to dance and party to. Like i said "great energy". Thanks for the comments on my tune. I agree about the mix. Thanx for taking the time to listen. JH Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trick fall Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 Checked out Waxman, Halljams......quality stuff. I've gotta say I'm really impressed in general with people here's stuff. While the tunes are maybe not always in a style I'd normally listen to, I'm almost always impressed by the quality of the recordings. BTW loved the slide guitar on Waxman. ------------------ [URL=http://www.thedopes.net Cause sometimes the rhetoric don't go with the contents cause[/URL] sometimes the rhetoric don't go with the contents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 i wanna play too! http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/242/karl_wenninger.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F7sound - Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 ReGurgiTron is still kicking ass! Fresh off the hard drive: "Resistor" http://www.mp3.com/regurgitron Michael Oster ReGurgiTron F7 Sound and Vision http://www.f7sound.com Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.F7sound.com http://www.regurgitron.com http://www.LaptopNoise.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by trickfall@yahoo.com: [b]Checked out Waxman, Halljams......quality stuff. BTW loved the slide guitar on Waxman. [/b][/quote] Thanks man. The slide was done in like one take by this guy who just sort of showed up with the drummer and brought all his gear. I guess he just wanted to play, so i thought "hell, why not let him play". I said "what do you want to do?" and he said "i dunno" so i said "ok, Make a bunch of noises and stuff and solo at the solo section." I think we ran though the whole tune 2x and he nailed the solo and then we did some some more noise stuff and i edited in the stuff that fit. Whole thing took around 20 minutes. I gave him 30 bucks and off he went. A good lesson in keeping an open mind i guess. It added a flavour that i wouldn't have considered adding so , yeah i agree, it is cool. I listened to all the tunes at your site. I found shimmer glimmer to be the one that was most fulfilling to my ears. The harmony is somewhat more expanded and i think that i need that to at least that point to enjoy a tune. If the chords are simple and triadic i want to hear some extensions, either in the melody or in back ups or bass guitar inversions, something anyway. I find that it is equivelent to having a full range mix for example, It'll get tired if everything is sitting down low or in the mid range. Do you get what i mean? So for example if the vocal is sitting in one spot making a statement, color around it not only using energy and rythm but try to incorporate harmonic color also, even if it is just a guitar in the back ground hitting minor and major seconds really obnoxiously, just get 'out there' somehow. Check out John Scofield for Dissonance ideas. Your arrangments have many points of interest that i liked. I was remined of RUSH actually a couple of times, you know some of the 2112 stuff, the shots i guess, it was cool. These are just statements on how i hear your music, It's my opinion that an artist should be aware of how differnt people percieve what they do and what it is that different people like about their art, if only so the artist can do the opposite if they don't like someone.(humour) Keep rocking Dudes JH This message has been edited by halljams on 08-22-2001 at 01:58 PM Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 [quote]Originally posted by kBw: [b]i wanna play too! http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/242/karl_wenninger.html [/b][/quote] I went down the line and listened till i got to "next to you". That was the one i liked the most. I listened to a lot of jazz for many years but sort of stopped after a while because i realized that it just didn't do for me what say a great motown song can do, and that is make me feel great all over. The jazz i still dig has an overwelming group vibe. The players are beyond having to think about how to do something and they are able to concentrate on reacting and interacting with the other players. Even though there may be scetched out parts it is true group improvisation. The reason i like your live tune was probly because it sounded light hearted and less constrained then the ones before it. The momentum seemed more natural and the tune gives off nice feeling. I'd say,as far as constructive criticism goes, I'd like to hear the drummer play with more conviction and try to create more of a pulse in the bottom end for the band to ride on (too much cymbal work)Tell him to listen to more Jack Dejonette or Joey Barron.(obnoxious of me. But you have to lead drummers by the hand most of the time)(humour). The horns sound really good together. I guess overall i would like to hear a more confident sounding band and that comes with years and years of playing. Sometimes i got the feeling that you were all sitting down tryinnot to breathe too loud or move,and concentrating on trying to play great instead of just turning it on and letting it flow. Just my opinions. Nice guitar tone by the way, L5? JH Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve LeBlanc Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 Cool Karl, I listened to "Back on the Playground," I would have mixed the horns and some of the drums a bit louder but overall it sounds really good. The guitar playing is excellent, interesting composition too. Thanks for posting your link. http://www.youtube.com/notesleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2001 Share Posted August 23, 2001 Hey Hall thanks for the response. Your comment about the band playing with more conviction is really interesting. That was the first time the band had played that tune and the tenor player and pianist were sight reading. The rest of the band had run through it just once 15 minutes before the gig. The reason that I posted it was to show that we go through pretty diverse styles. Thanks for the compliment on the guitar tone, it's a Gibson Howard Roberts fusion model (semi-hollow). Steve thanks to you to. I agree about the mix. That paticular session was done in a small project studio on a very low budget (mine). 1 day of recording + 1 day of mixing = 7 tunes. We did the best that we could at the time karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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