The Real MC Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 You'd need a pretty awesome dynamic range to sample that little event Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 54 minutes ago, Threadslayer said: You'd need a pretty awesome dynamic range to sample that little event Especially the part where the bat he killed falls into the tuba. 🦇💀 4 Quote "Let there be dancing in the streets, drinking in the saloons and necking in the parlors! Play, Don!" ~ Groucho Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 The pictured approach is a great example of when keeping it real could go wrong. 😁 A sampler would be a much better choice. It could also be used to sub for sick tuba too.🤣😎 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I made a convincing gun shot sound on a recording by slamming the hood of a car in a huge concrete parking garage. I had earplugs in and just used my little Tascam recorder. Don't even need a sampler for a gunshot sound and you really don't need a gun, blanks or not. That's just plain crazy. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 How does one write that into the score? There are contemporary organ works that call for the musician to lay their forearms across the keyboards and the score is nothing but solid black bars. Is the gauge of shotgun specified? Does red ink drip down the staves? Is the audience warned that their seat may be a target? Is there a particular season when this piece may be performed? Like, only during deer season which would vary from state to state? Is the instrumentalist permitted to field dress the audience member after the performance and employ a taxidermist for the mounting of the head? I've got so many questions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Ahhh the famous orchestrated version of Roy "C" Shotgun Wedding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, AUSSIEKEYS said: Ahhh the famous orchestrated version of Roy "C" Shotgun Wedding That's funny, never heard it before. Love the Framus guitar at the bottom of the page too, I had something just about as ugly back in the day! Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, KuruPrionz said: I had something just about as ugly back in the day! At first i thought you meant a shotgun wedding but it was the guitar hee hee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, KuruPrionz said: I made a convincing gun shot sound on a recording by slamming the hood of a car in a huge concrete parking garage. I had earplugs in and just used my little Tascam recorder. Don't even need a sampler for a gunshot sound and you really don't need a gun, blanks or not. That's just plain crazy. I remember an amateur production of a musical I MDed many years ago. We tried a starting pistol (too loud) and sample playback (too quiet). Director turned to me and asked "what do you have for a gunshot?" I cued a rimshot from our drummer - problem solved. The thing is (in theat[re][er] at least) is that when the audience sees a gun, they expect it to fire. That expectation helps disguise any inaccuracy in the sound itself. Cheers, Mike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Burgess Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, stoken6 said: I remember an amateur production of a musical I MDed many years ago. We tried a starting pistol (too loud) and sample playback (too quiet). Director turned to me and asked "what do you have for a gunshot?" I cued a rimshot from our drummer - problem solved. The thing is (in theat[re][er] at least) is that when the audience sees a gun, they expect it to fire. That expectation helps disguise any inaccuracy in the sound itself. Cheers, Mike. Correct in every way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamPro Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 The image gives new meaning to the phrase "bangin' beats". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 7 hours ago, stoken6 said: I remember an amateur production of a musical I MDed many years ago. We tried a starting pistol (too loud) and sample playback (too quiet). Director turned to me and asked "what do you have for a gunshot?" I cued a rimshot from our drummer - problem solved. The thing is (in theat[re][er] at least) is that when the audience sees a gun, they expect it to fire. That expectation helps disguise any inaccuracy in the sound itself. Cheers, Mike. Exactly, very few people have actually heard a gun go off inside a theater, so give the actor an unloaded BB gun that looks like a real gun and time the whole thing. Audience sees the gun, hears the gun, no gun is fired. I owned a Daisy when I was a kid and it looked enough like a 1986 Winchester lever action to fool anyone. The hammer even cocked and released when the trigger was pulled, loaded or unloaded. More than one way to skin a cat and more than one cat needs skinning. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, KuruPrionz said: I owned a Daisy when I was a kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjosko Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Quote /Bjørn - old gearjunkie, still with lot of GAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipeb3 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I really wanted one of those Daisy air rifles when I was a kid. And of course, Mom said no. She would say,”You won’t be happy until you put somebody’s eye out! “. Well, I finally got that rifle. I shot it everywhere. I shot cars, trees, my dog, even my friends. I never put anybody’s eye out. But then again, I’ve never really been happy… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 We used to have BB gun wars in our neighborhood. Most wore shades, nobody was blinded. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Two relevant experiences, I think: In college I was percussionist for a production of "You're a Good Man Charlie Brown." When Snoopy fantasized taking on the Red Baron, gunshots were a series of snare rim shots. It was written in the score. When I was a kid we had a wonderful toy called a cap gun, basically a repeater pistol that "shot" a few mg of gunpowder sandwiched between two long strips of paper. The sound was quite similar to an actual low caliber pistol. Unfortunately (IMO) current culture has made those unfashionable. 1 Quote -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 21 hours ago, matted stump said: We used to have BB gun wars in our neighborhood. Most wore shades, nobody was blinded. <yorkshiremen> Oh, but we used to DREAM of having BB guns for our gun wars. We had to throw pebbles from the ground. </yorkshiremen> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, The Abominable MC said: <yorkshiremen> Oh, but we used to DREAM of having BB guns for our gun wars. We had to throw pebbles from the ground. </yorkshiremen> We had no pebbles but we had some great dirt clod wars and also mud ball battles. Plus baggies full of water. That was before we figured out how to shoplift, stole gunshells and made pipe bombs. I'm lucky I didn't blow my hands off!!!!! 1 Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I also had cowpie fights with my cousins, but that's sliding waayyy off topic. 1 Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledbetter Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Geez, how do you think they used to play the 1812 Overture? Rimshots? Also, if you’ve never owned or put anyone’s eye out with a BB gun, there’s still time . . . . Quote Kawai KG-2C, Nord Stage 3 73, Electro 4D, 5D and Lead 2x, Moog Voyager and Little Phatty Stage II, Slim Phatty, Roland Lucina AX-09, Hohner Piano Melodica, Spacestation V3, pair of QSC 8.2s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipeb3 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Wow... thanks, Led. There's still a chance for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Sherry Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/27/2022 at 11:30 PM, ksoper said: How does one write that into the score? I know you weren’t being serious, but it’s fun to see how Tchaikovsky did it (see attached): Just noticed the Cannon entrance is marked quadrupal-forte. Good thinking there, otherwise the munitions specialist might bring a pianissimo cannon… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills Dude Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Ledbetter said: Geez, how do you think they used to play the 1812 Overture? Rimshots? Also, if you’ve never owned or put anyone’s eye out with a BB gun, there’s still time . . . . Growing up not far from West Point, we'd go every few years to watch the West Point Band perform 1812 Overture with real cannons firing off into the Hudson. Pretty f---in' loud. Quote Mills Dude -- Lefty Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Strauß: Quote "The Angels of Libra are in the European vanguard of the [retro soul] movement" (Bill Buckley, Soul and Jazz and Funk) The Drawbars | off jazz organ trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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