gino Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 https://www.roland.com/us/products/fantom_series/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aperkeys Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Finally. Yet, did I miss - NO user Multisamples??? Quote Gear: Nord Stage 3 76HP, Moog Little Phatty Stage II, Hammond XK5, Solina String Ensemble My Bands: Aperco, Ummagumma, Amity Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojkarma Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Obviously no multisamples. Roland wouldn't be Roland if they wouldn't screw things up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aperkeys Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Unless they pull a "Kurzweil Forte" two years from now Quote Gear: Nord Stage 3 76HP, Moog Little Phatty Stage II, Hammond XK5, Solina String Ensemble My Bands: Aperco, Ummagumma, Amity Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Lack of multisamples is nothing to me. I would venture that less than 5 percent of past Fantom users ever use them. Plus you can always connect a computer. I like the dual CV/Gate outputs and it seems that they are really targeting the electronic music scene. I'm more interested in knowing if they integrated the organ. Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojkarma Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Lack of multisamples is nothing to me. I would venture that less than 5 percent of past Fantom users ever use them. Plus you can always connect a computer. I could be wrong, but I suppose that most people who buy keyboards these days, do it because they play live. In the studio you can replace everything with the computer, not just the multisample option. Now, if you take the bigger picture, worldwide people will miss some specific sounds (probably mostly ethnic type natural sounds) which are not present in the Fantom and can't be added later. So, they will skip the Fantom and buy a Montage or Kronos instead. But you could be right, they are probably targeting the electronic music scene. Another bad decision IMHO because an all purpose keyboard like a Fantom should be targeted to a wider range and there is not a lot missing to achieve that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephonic Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I"m in TEARS! Tears of joy... ...at last! Fâk the new MacPro, I"m getting me a Fantom. Quote local: Korg Nautilus 61 AT | Yamaha MODX8 away: GigPerformer | 16" MBP M1 Max home: Kawai RX-2 | Korg D1 | Roland Fantom X7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Unfortunately, I live and die by multisampling. However, there is a glimmer of hope: Drawing from over four decades of genre-defining sounds, FANTOM"s expandable sound engine nails our classic synths but pushes into new sonic territory as well. Our custom Behavior Modeling Chips power FANTOM"s core, with smooth and precise control, loads of polyphony, and full patch remain. And FANTOM is part of an expandable platform, with new sounds and new possibilities coming. Maybe it'll be like the G-series where multisampling was added later. Quote Korg Kronos 61 (2); Roland Fantom-06, 2015 Macbook Pro and 2012 Mac Mini (Logic Pro X and Mainstage), GigPerformer 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 The V-Piano is an engine here yes? So they don"t need multisamples for the pianos it would seem. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Interesting that Roland think they can turn a profit with a new workstation. Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Looks surprisingly like the Montage/ModX from a distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 They went down the same road as Montage. Everything is a single mode. I don"t care for the color scheme on the right panel, looks like it will be harder to read in low light conditions , sort of like the MOX. But the specs look solid. The 8 is 61 pounds, the 7 is around 40 pounds. These are real instruments. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotiDave Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Game Changer. Quote The baiting I do is purely for entertainment value. Please feel free to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Looks surprisingly like the Montage/ModX from a distance. With a little bit of Nord red thrown in as well. Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffincltnc Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Looks like a real instrument. As Andrew said, it seems to borrow a lot of look from a Montage. At the end of the day, I can't yet clearly summarize what this allows me to do that I can't do with my FA-07. I think I'm more likely to GAS for the new Jupiter next year as my workstation interests continue to move further into the MacBook platform. But it's nice to see Roland come back with some real flagship builds again! Seems to be a welcome new generation of choices for us. Quote Yamaha U1 Upright, Roland Fantom 8, Nord Stage 4 HA73, Nord Wave 2, Korg Nautilus 73, Viscount Legend Live, Lots of Mainstage/VST Libraries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Prices so far: Fantom 6 $3299 Fantom 7 $3599 Fantom 8 $3999 Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 What happened to Roland being the value for your $ synth manufacturer? ouch. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickzjamm Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Also borrows from the Kronos (now almost everybody has jumped on the touch screen bandwagon & about time). Love Roland sounds & the configuration looks intuitive but it gained weight, not a gigging board. Quote You don't know you're in the dark until you're in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 So....yeah!!!!! I just got done watching the long video with the connectivity breakdown as far as all the i/o.... This is a serious instrument that speaks directly to me. I love they've brought over the XLR outs, as well as the XLR In. Also, it's built in Audio i/0 can have its outputs routed to any of the physical outputs. Which brings me to having the 2 sets of sub outs (4 total). In my use, I could run the organ thru a sub out to my Lester K. etc..etc.. Yes, I am one of those who doesn't need user multi-sampling. Like anything, specific features likes and dislikes come down to individual desires. I never used it on my old Fantom X6. I did use expansion cards. It appears they say the new one is designed to be expandable? Anyway, my initial though is.... I want one Quote David Gig Rig:Roland Fantom 08 | Roland Jupiter 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Game Changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 USB sockets for external controllers looks pretty tasty ð Quote Nord Stage 2EX | Nord Wave | Mainstage | Key Largo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I"ll take the 7 if I don"t retire. Maybe give the FA06 to a young player. But retirement maybe a lot of fun. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I think the ' modeless ' concept is smart No reliance on keeping up with computer tech , or struggling with massive processing requirements. And the recording, YESSir. I like the strength and options, etc etc Quote Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickzjamm Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Has the best of the Forte, Nord (well, the jury's still out on the organs), Yamaha and even some in house borrowing from the FA series... add that to the Roland PHA-5 hammer action! Yeah it's a dream board, I want. Quote You don't know you're in the dark until you're in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 USB sockets for external controllers looks pretty tasty ð I especially like this Quote David Gig Rig:Roland Fantom 08 | Roland Jupiter 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It's one solid offering . If I didn't have a Kronos and was looking for a big workstation this would be high on the list, although it's heavyish (Fantom 7 is same weight as my Kronos LE 88). Quote The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aperkeys Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 From the features at the Roland site: FANTOM runs multiple synthesis technologies simultaneously, for authentic acoustic and electronic sounds, both modern and classic. You can also sample your own sounds and trigger up to 2 GBs worth of loops and one-shots from the pad matrix. There"s a fully routable analog filter for extra warmth and grit, and you can even mix soft synths with FANTOM"s internal sounds. "Sample your own sounds". Is this the indication user multisamples will come in the future? Quote Gear: Nord Stage 3 76HP, Moog Little Phatty Stage II, Hammond XK5, Solina String Ensemble My Bands: Aperco, Ummagumma, Amity Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephonic Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 At this point, I"m just glad Roland hasn"t abandoned this market. After the Jupiters were discontinued I really thought they were done here. I regretted selling my Jupiter 50, thinking they weren"t gonna make another thing like it. As much as I have appreciated my Yamahas/Korg/Nord, I don"t vibe with them quite the way I vibe with Roland"s stuff. Sweetwater lists them as in stock and shipping now. I can"t wait! As for future updates, I remember the Fantom X didn"t have audio recording at first, that was added with the 2.0 update. So adding multi-sampling with an update sounds possible to me. Quote local: Korg Nautilus 61 AT | Yamaha MODX8 away: GigPerformer | 16" MBP M1 Max home: Kawai RX-2 | Korg D1 | Roland Fantom X7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 USB sockets for external controllers looks pretty tasty ð I especially like this I saw that. Yamaha P125 under a Fantom 6 or 7 is a sweet rig (assuming the organs are up to scratch) although a bit heavy for a top board. Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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