Markay Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Link to G'N's performance of November Rain where Axl stops the song due to the top octave piano notes. My thoughts are the 2nd keyboard player has hit the transpose button. Guitar Player story and vid HERE A misguided plumber attempting to entertain | MainStage 3 | Axiom 61 2nd Gen | Pianoteq | B5 | XK3c | EV ZLX 12P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Axl didn't finish a song? How unusual. FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I had no idea Axl and Slash were working together again. This was a pretty horrible glitch. Would not have happened with a real piano! I don't know if they still do or not, but once upon a time, Springsteen's crew would mic up the grand piano and then use it to trigger Ivory(?). The backup plan was to cut over to mics if the shit ever hit the fan. Wes Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 transpose button. just sayin' Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 saw them here in Dallas.. It was actually a great show, and hearkened back to their heyday. Axl sounded good and was actually fun and funny with the audience. This glitch did not happen at the Dallas show. David Gig Rig:Roland Fantom 08 | Roland Jupiter 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Train wreck. Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKeys Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I never heard a keyboard trigger it's own notes. Sounded like a kid tinkering on the high notes. Jimmy Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. Groucho NEW BAND CHECK THEM OUT www.steveowensandsummertime.com www.jimmyweaver.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Ferguson Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I never heard a keyboard trigger it's own notes. Sounded like a kid tinkering on the high notes. Yes, that didn't sound like a transpose button issue. The notes sounded random. Did I see two backing keyboard players in that video? "If you can't dazzle them with dexterity, baffle them with bullshit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindaru Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 It was kind of hard to see the backing players, but I agree it sounded random and not transposed. :idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Maybe having guys cover the parts from their rigs frees up axl to concentrate on the showmanship and his vocal parts and he could beat all who knows what on that unmic'd piano and the FOH gets covered by the other players? Or maybe a lot is sequenced and syncd to whatever other stuff they have pre-tracked and the wrong shit got triggered. There's still something to be said for acts that share the wealth and put enough musicians on the stage to get the studio version happening live. I know small acts can't afford it - but surely GnR can have 3 backup singers, 3 synth players covering orchestral parts, no sequencing or backup tracking needed. Journey and others could do it too, there's a lot of $ coming in from their very popular and well attended shows. Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 FWIW, I thought Axl was appropriate and good-natured about it, and "can we stop it at least?" was a pretty sane request. It did sound vaguely random, but it also sounded like someone who thought he couldn't be heard poking around in half-steps to find the key the song is in. (It's in the "correct" key of B, so maybe the previous song had been transposed...?) Band sounds great. It's always a minor shame when former rockers get polished and professional, but the flip side is--man, do they sound polished and professional. I'd still go see them any time. Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marczellm Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 At 7 minutes you can see the crew bringing in the backup piano. Life is subtractive.Genres: Jazz, funk, pop, Christian worship, BebHop Wishlist: 80s-ish (synth)pop, symph pop, prog rock, fusion, musical theatre Gear: NS2 + JUNO-G. KingKORG. SP6 at church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 C'mon, guys, it's obvious: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EjIxFR8z50Q/SnUQSfX4oAI/AAAAAAAAAGM/BmI6rsLUwmI/s400/Pizzicato+Pussycat.jpg (points to those that get the reference... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I'm more worried about the sound coming out of his mouth when he decides to bring it back in. Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindaru Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Yup, Sven . . . those old cartoons were great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I never heard a keyboard trigger it's own notes. Sounded like a kid tinkering on the high notes. I had to retire a Moog Source because it would do that. Never could get it fixed. Years later I found help on the internet. Turned out to be a common problem with corrosion messing with a digital pathway. Too bad that by then it had spent 20 years in my parents basement. Now it is a wall hanging. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Years later I found help on the internet. hoping for this myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I thought Axl handle this great, and with humor. The line about ghost a gremlins, but they could at least learn the effin song was hilarious. Here's a pic I found of their current stage setup (with Axl's piano still below the stage) http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/escaperocks1/gunsnrosesstagedetroit2016_638_zpszwzhihlm.jpg David Gig Rig:Roland Fantom 08 | Roland Jupiter 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr88s Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 How's about a MIDI glitch? One of the keyboards possibly responding to some gibberish data sent on another / OMNI channel intended for another piece of gear? Nord Stage 2 Compact, Yamaha MODX8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindaru Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 No kidding. Often if a helicopter is going over my house and the pilot is talking on the radio, I can hear that radio through my computer and head-phones just like I was listening on the other end of that radio! It continues until they are far enough away, so accidental signal transference very well could be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 How's about a MIDI glitch? One of the keyboards possibly responding to some gibberish data sent on another / OMNI channel intended for another piece of gear? This was my first reaction. They do have three keyboards in the new lineup, but all doing different things - Axl is the piano guy, Dizzy mostly does Hammond and percussion, and Melissa triggers synths and samples I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I never heard a keyboard trigger it's own notes. Oh, plenty of times. Though not the explanation here, if you accidentally call up the wrong patch on some boards or brush against the wrong button, you can suddenly set off an unintended arpeggiation or sequence or rhythm pattern, which I have done. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyS Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wouldn't want to be the keyboard technician for that... Rudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markay Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Had a listen to another phone vid of the song from the Layla segue intro and it sounds like the tinkling comes in at the same time as the synth strings patch. Curiously after the stop it continues a couple of times even though the strings can no longer be heard. A misguided plumber attempting to entertain | MainStage 3 | Axiom 61 2nd Gen | Pianoteq | B5 | XK3c | EV ZLX 12P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammondDave Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 How about this? Turn off the power... Turn it back on... If it's still sounds like shit. Turn it off... Leave it off. And cover with the 30 other keyboards around you. There are techs on the lighting crew who's job is to watch the moving lights and identify any lights that are not responding. They reset the light... If it still does not respond, they shut it down. It's hard for me to believe that there are no sound techs doing the same. '55 and '59 B3's; Leslies 147, 122, 21H; MODX 7+; NUMA Piano X 88; Motif XS7; Mellotrons M300 and M400’s; Wurlitzer 206; Gibson G101; Vox Continental; Mojo 61; Launchkey 88 Mk III; Korg Module; B3X; Model D6; Moog Model D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Here's a pic I found of their current stage setup (with Axl's piano still below the stage) http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/escaperocks1/gunsnrosesstagedetroit2016_638_zpszwzhihlm.jpg I'd blame it on the wookie......... "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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