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Link to G'N's performance of November Rain where Axl stops the song due to the top octave piano notes.

 

My thoughts are the 2nd keyboard player has hit the transpose button.

 

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I had no idea Axl and Slash were working together again.

 

This was a pretty horrible glitch. Would not have happened with a real piano! :D I don't know if they still do or not, but once upon a time, Springsteen's crew would mic up the grand piano and then use it to trigger Ivory(?). The backup plan was to cut over to mics if the shit ever hit the fan.

 

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saw them here in Dallas.. It was actually a great show, and hearkened back to their heyday.

 

Axl sounded good and was actually fun and funny with the audience.

 

This glitch did not happen at the Dallas show.

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I never heard a keyboard trigger it's own notes. Sounded like a kid tinkering on the high notes.

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I never heard a keyboard trigger it's own notes. Sounded like a kid tinkering on the high notes.

Yes, that didn't sound like a transpose button issue. The notes sounded random.

 

Did I see two backing keyboard players in that video?

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Maybe having guys cover the parts from their rigs frees up axl to concentrate on the showmanship and his vocal parts and he could beat all who knows what on that unmic'd piano and the FOH gets covered by the other players? Or maybe a lot is sequenced and syncd to whatever other stuff they have pre-tracked and the wrong shit got triggered.

 

There's still something to be said for acts that share the wealth and put enough musicians on the stage to get the studio version happening live. I know small acts can't afford it - but surely GnR can have 3 backup singers, 3 synth players covering orchestral parts, no sequencing or backup tracking needed. Journey and others could do it too, there's a lot of $ coming in from their very popular and well attended shows.

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FWIW, I thought Axl was appropriate and good-natured about it, and "can we stop it at least?" was a pretty sane request.

 

It did sound vaguely random, but it also sounded like someone who thought he couldn't be heard poking around in half-steps to find the key the song is in. (It's in the "correct" key of B, so maybe the previous song had been transposed...?)

 

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At 7 minutes you can see the crew bringing in the backup piano.

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I never heard a keyboard trigger it's own notes. Sounded like a kid tinkering on the high notes.

 

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I thought Axl handle this great, and with humor.

 

The line about ghost a gremlins, but they could at least learn the effin song was hilarious.

 

Here's a pic I found of their current stage setup (with Axl's piano still below the stage)

 

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/escaperocks1/gunsnrosesstagedetroit2016_638_zpszwzhihlm.jpg

 

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No kidding. Often if a helicopter is going over my house and the pilot is talking on the radio, I can hear that radio through my computer and head-phones just like I was listening on the other end of that radio!

 

It continues until they are far enough away, so accidental signal transference very well could be!

 

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How's about a MIDI glitch? One of the keyboards possibly responding to some gibberish data sent on another / OMNI channel intended for another piece of gear?

 

This was my first reaction. They do have three keyboards in the new lineup, but all doing different things - Axl is the piano guy, Dizzy mostly does Hammond and percussion, and Melissa triggers synths and samples I think.

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I never heard a keyboard trigger it's own notes.

Oh, plenty of times. Though not the explanation here, if you accidentally call up the wrong patch on some boards or brush against the wrong button, you can suddenly set off an unintended arpeggiation or sequence or rhythm pattern, which I have done.

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Had a listen to another phone vid of the song from the Layla segue intro and it sounds like the tinkling comes in at the same time as the synth strings patch.

 

Curiously after the stop it continues a couple of times even though the strings can no longer be heard.

 

 

 

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How about this? Turn off the power... Turn it back on...

 

If it's still sounds like shit. Turn it off... Leave it off. And cover with the 30 other keyboards around you.

 

There are techs on the lighting crew who's job is to watch the moving lights and identify any lights that are not responding. They reset the light... If it still does not respond, they shut it down. It's hard for me to believe that there are no sound techs doing the same.

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Here's a pic I found of their current stage setup (with Axl's piano still below the stage)

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/escaperocks1/gunsnrosesstagedetroit2016_638_zpszwzhihlm.jpg

I'd blame it on the wookie......... :taz:

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