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Forte will be my one & only


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One & only for gigging that is. A week ago I purchased the Kurzweil Forte from Dave Weiser (Weisersound). Great price, free shipping, plus he designed many of the factory sounds and offers custom programming. Knowing Dave's history with Kurzweil and his track record of supporting customers this was a no-brainer! The best part was feeling like I was dealing with a friend and not some faceless business.

The Forte will be the "one & only" I take to gigs but still going through the sounds - I come across one that speaks to me & find myself on that sound for hours. Like everybody else I prefer AP weighted action (lets be honest, nobody will ever agree on what constitutes true AP 88 key action on a stage piano - opinions are like, well you know), but having to play B3, APs. EPs & all the garden variety of sounds gigs demand the TP40L weighted action is the best compromise choice all around, feels very natural & you can adjust action to taste. The Wurlys, Rhodes, organs, clav's, strings all seem to have their actions calibrated so the EP feels like an EP, organ like an Organ & so forth. Transitions from one sound to the next is seamless, very convenient for moving quickly to the next song in the heat of battle. Build quality is a solid 49 lbs. & the controls inside & out are a breeze, havent cracked the owners manual yet. I own the NE3 & an SK1 as second boards, theyll be staying home while the KB3 will be my clone of choice. It doesnt take the place sound wise (those are great boards) but its in the ballpark centerfield, nine sliders and a solid organ sound so I dont have to lug a second cone wheel slab around sweet. Beefy sounds & user friendly, Its a great all around stage board thats made to cut in the mix IMHO.

 

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I don't think you'll be disappointed. Kurzweil keyboards are well programmed to cover a wide variety of live situations; as a result they have a great reputation for sitting well in a mix - right out of the box. So, enjoy ! The Forte is a monster. :drool:

 

 

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Put this in a 76 key, lightweight package and I'll b the first to order.

 

This was touted as happening from the beginning, but seems to be no word or sign on that since.

 

I think that Kurz would shift quite a number of these...if it ever becomes available.

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Put this in a 76 key, lightweight package and I'll b the first to order.

 

This was touted as happening from the beginning, but seems to be no word or sign on that since.

 

I think that Kurz would shift quite a number of these...if it ever becomes available.

 

I will be my next purchase if a 76 or 73 hammered keys version becomes available. But PLEASE not only semi weighted keys like Acuna 76!!

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I'm curious to know how the Forte is selling. No retailers here (Sam Ash, Guitar Center, etc.) have a floor model. Seems if you can't try it at Sweetwater, you're ordering it on blind faith.
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A 76 key version would definitely be cool... lighter & weighted with the same sounds. But I'm partial to those extra keys when playing APs & EPs. The layering, while nothing new, reminds me of another favorite of mine, the RD800.
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A week ago I purchased the Kurzweil Forte from Dave Weiser (Weisersound).

 

Smart move. :idea:

 

Enjoy!

Happy Friday, everybody. :cheers::keys2::boing:

 

Tom

 

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An 88 would work for me, but since they put the wheels on the left rather than above, that ruled it out for me.

 

I've had 73 or 76 since forever (well, since 1977), and I just love having a small and reasonably light 88 for the first time! I doubt I'll go back to 7x for my bottom board, unless it's a C to G 77 (which nobody will ever make, but it'd rock if they did.)

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They don't have @$& on the show room floors any longer. A few pro boards if you're lucky, usually Yamaha, sometimes Roland. The rest are student / family entry level digital pianos. Maybe a few tweaky synths. Online is killing the shops. So it's buy to try. 30 days, hate it, send it back.

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A weighted 76 would reduce weight what, 5 lbs? Might as well go for the 88. Unless they could package the Forte into say the Artis SE, keeping the weight down AROUND 30 lbs, I'm rooting for the semi-weighted. IMHO 61 keys leaves any piano, acoustic, EP, even clavs out of the picture. Simply have to have at least 76 keys, again, IMHO.

 

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How far off is the Artis 7 to the Forte?

Oh, about 16 gigabytes.

 

(And aftertouch, fancier screen, more fx, LED ladder lights, etc.... but the 16 gigabytes of ROM--versus, I think, about a quarter of a gigabyte--would account for the biggest sonic difference, esp. in pianos/EPs)

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Put this in a 76 key, lightweight package and I'll b the first to order.
A major marketing opportunity for Kurzweil: forgo all the silly -X and -7 and -6/-61 suffixes, and just call it the mezzo-forte.

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Put this in a 76 key, lightweight package and I'll b the first to order.

+1, if the price is right. I can see upgrading my PC3 to a Forte. I'd also like to see deep editing accomplished on the board itself rather than having to interface with Sound Tower.

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I will be my next purchase if a 76 or 73 hammered keys version becomes available. But PLEASE not only semi weighted keys like Acuna 76!!

 

Acuna is hammer-action (TP/100), which is fine if you like that sort of thing. Like the Artis/SE

 

My problem with Kurz 76s is the TP/8 action in them. They're not fine even if you like that sort of thing :-) Too spongy for piano, too springy for organ.

 

Put the TP/9 from the PC361/PC3K6 into one and you have a nice premium-synth action for a top board. Sling a cheap 88 hammer-action underneath and you're set for anything.

 

Great to see life beyond Triple-Strike as well!

 

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It was published somewhere (can't remember) a few years ago that their 76 key keyboard line would be semi-weighted going forward. Unless this strategy has now changed I would expect the 76 keyboard release of the Forte to be semi-weighted. Maybe not a TP8 but still semi-weighted. There is a 17 pound difference between the PC3x and the PC3. So if the Forte is 49 pounds it would seem the Forte 76 would weigh in at around 32 pounds. Certainly doable for me.

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Better yet, keep the TP40L on a 76. The action is programable in Global mode on the Forte.

 

 

 

Can you explain briefly what programmable action means in this case?

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Better yet, keep the TP40L on a 76. The action is programable in Global mode on the Forte.

Can you explain briefly what programmable action means in this case?

programmable response, no doubt. The action itself is what it is and has no dynamically controllable elements.

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Sorry, meant to say you can adjust the pressure or aftertouch to get different "Piano actions".

The Pressure Map parameter determines the way the Forte controls Pressure (Aftertouch).

Different maps generate different MIDI pressure values for the same physical key depending

on how hard you press and hold the key.

Easiest

Easier

Easy

Makes it increasingly easier to produce high MIDI pressure values. (with

Easies being the easiest).

Linear The Forte default map. Linear, allows MIDI pressure ( aftertouch) to pass

unchanged. It follows a linear response.

Hard

Harder

Hardest

Makes it increasingly harder to produce high MIDI pressure values (with

Hardest requiring most pressure

... Maybe DW can chime in & clarify a bit.

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A weighted 76 would reduce weight what, 5 lbs? Might as well go for the 88. Unless they could package the Forte into say the Artis SE, keeping the weight down AROUND 30 lbs, I'm rooting for the semi-weighted. IMHO 61 keys leaves any piano, acoustic, EP, even clavs out of the picture. Simply have to have at least 76 keys, again, IMHO.

+1 My thoughts exactly. I keep watching and hoping for a 7x-key, lightweight board. My current interests are broadening to include organ, and I already have a Kawai MP-7 for the piano action, so I would most favor a TP-8O action. I don't know how likely that is. At first I thought the Artis 7 was my answer: semi-weighted action, light, gorgeous cosmetics. I was close to pulling the trigger. But when I researched it and learned that Kurz dumbed down the grand piano samples, that put me off the 7. And I don't believe it has waterfall keys, so that would hamper organ playing (am I correct in this?). Another strike. BTW, I wonder why so few posters mention the Artis 7. I would assume that Kurz hoped it would fill the niche we are requesting.

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