Still Learning Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Check out the new VAX-77 I was flipping thru Keyboard mag and saw this new midi controller. It'll be introduced at the South-by-SouthWest show in Austin Texas USA on March 15th. Check it out at at http://www.infiniteresponse.com/ To me, it looks pretty interesting, what do you guys and gals think of this thing? When most people go to work, they work. When musicians go to work, they play. Which do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 It doesn't look like anything, where are the freakin' pictures? And no pitch bender? Real time panel controls? Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzed Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Sounds amazing in a numbere of ways if you read the entire description. I've always wanted key-wiggling vibrato control. A bit too amazing, is this real? Must be very expensive with the whole custom-made thing too if it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwgm Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Looks like kiddie porn to me. I'm afraid to click the links. I used to write system software for the VAX back in the 1970s. I'll be this is a different model, right? (I think it was an 11/780). regards, --kwgm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Learning Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 Ah that brings back memmories kwgm. I used to work with an old VAX 11/750 or maybe a 780, it's been a while. I do remember loading in the big platters, spinning down the handle and powering that bad-boy up. Those were some pretty big computers in those old days. I'm looking forward to hearing more about this new controller. Does it really fold in half? When most people go to work, they work. When musicians go to work, they play. Which do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leberwurst Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 this page is lame... nothing against flashy design, but if you advertise a product, you should maybe show a bit more than just a few keys The Dromb Bopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakit Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 It sorta looks like total BS to me. The keyboard folds in half for easy carrying? Most of what I read sounds like stuff you see in TheOnion. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Well, April Fool's is coming up. OTOH, you see this stuff all the time with teasers - Clavia just did it with the C1. I would love to have a fresh player in the live midi controller arena - it's currently barren as #$%^. I'll give them a pass until that show when they unveil their product. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzed Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Wait...could this have anything to do with this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I don't think so. He is hinting about a Kurz product, but this folding thing is from an outfit in Austin TX. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Looks promising. MIDI zoning gets a passing mention, so I assume it should be there. But there seems to be no aftertouch and no bending device. At this point, though, *any* 76-key, lightweight controller is welcome. Let's hope for the best about key weighting - they say is adjustable, but as we know, the type of action response is even more important than the amount of resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwgm Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 The big platters were probably the RM05 unit. I wrote a device driver for that guy once, when the new, larger platter came out. Wow, 80Mb! regards, --kwgm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 they say is adjustable, but as we know, the type of action response is even more important than the amount of resistance. I don't think that it's adjustable, just that they'll have 6 different levels of weighting available for purchase. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 they say is adjustable, but as we know, the type of action response is even more important than the amount of resistance. I don't think that it's adjustable, just that they'll have 6 different levels of weighting available for purchase. I know... I wrote that for brevity, but the concept remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzed Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Reviving this thread because the site now has graphics. http://web.mac.com/perceptionmd/iWeb/IR/Images/vax_front.jpghttp://web.mac.com/perceptionmd/iWeb/IR/Images/vax_back.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Cool. The new Chainsaw Massacred controller. :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod S Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Vaporware. The picture is photoshopped, the keys don't line up. The website looks more like something out of a teen magazine. And the layout just seems awkward - I don't seem many musicians finding it practical. It goes against what is out there but doesn't offer something really innovative and interesting or particularly useful. Custom built? See how far that goes... And "Material = Magnesium extrusion" ??? That doesn't sound right. Korg Kronos X73 / ARP Odyssey / Motif ES Rack / Roland D-05 / JP-08 / SE-05 / Jupiter Xm / Novation Mininova / NL2X / Waldorf Pulse II MBP-LOGIC American Deluxe P-Bass, Yamaha RBX760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 What a disappointment. I was somewhat interested in this, but they couldn't have come up with a worse control layout if they had tried. No dedicated patch buttons for quick change at live gigs? NO PITCH AND MOD WHEELS? Two tiny screens with scroll wheels for navigation? WTF were they smoking down there in Austin? I have to conclude that they did not consult a single professional gigging player. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Well, there's apparently the left round thingie which can be used for mod wheel, but... Way too much basic interface. No wheels, no sliders, no user-programmable buttons, no MIDI merge, no SYSEX programming available, no etc. The "bending in half to save space" is a nice start, supposing you don't mind having a 76 note keyboard, but they need to redo their homework for just about everything else, including the disastrous Web page. I love my MIDIboard. :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzed Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Seems like they overdid the simplicity thing and reduced functionality for it. On the other hand, it does offer a number of things that other controllers have missed. The (optionally) weighted 76-keys, poly aftertouch, release velocity, lots of pedal inputs, and lightweight and portable (providing the folding thing pans out). In other words, you have great keyboard features without the complete controls to match it. In fact, a few of the keyboard features are things many people here have been clamouring for in a controller, which makes me think they must have consulted gigging players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I can't imagine a gigging player's first reaction being other than: - where's the buttons to call my presets? - where's the pitch bend and mod wheels? If poly aftertouch was on the original site, I missed it. So if it has that then cool, nice brownie points for it. But geez, to miss the boat so bad out of the box... Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Another thing I see as limiting them to create an elaborated interface is the folding in half. Since they need to keep the number of wires going to the right side (obviously the "remote" part, with the left containing the main PCBs) to a minimum, there's only a limited space on the left for more knobs/buttons. Unless there's some kind of special cable that needs to be plugged between both sides when the thing is unfolded. In that case, they could use the right side to expand the interface. But as I see there's nothing there, the few connections are probably made on hinges or using whatever "movable" parts... Which would worry me about reliability if one gigs a lot with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Clearly they need to give everyone on this list a unit to beta test, since we represent the finest group of keyboardists on the planet. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Tatum Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Will they custom-make them with however many keys you ask for? I'd like a stretch-limo version to take to really extravagant gigs, with 196 keys, please. :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Tatum Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 But, seriously, it looks real interesting - a lot of cool-sounding stuff. Like Rod S, I'm not sure about the custom building part. Depends how they do it, I suppose. If they have a few standard "off-the-rack" versions that sell as-is, and then offer to custom build as an option, that would be ok. But if they only sell them custom-made, I think that's going to severely limit their sales. They need to get units into stores for people to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I don't want to give them a hard time, because it's a bold new idea in a sea of sameness. It seems to have poly AT (there's a switch to toggle it with channel pressure), it has an internal power supply (hallelujah), and it weights *25 lbs.*. Unless they're confusing pounds with kilos... :grin: In fact, if the action is good, *and* if they would ever come to their senses and make a version with pitch and mod wheels, I would seriously consider it. (Well, I'd like to know the price as well) BTW I agree that their site is absurd; it's difficult to understand *what* they're offering in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikcoconut Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I personally don't know if it does have pitch and mod wheels, but I doubt they'd leave it off since the creator is a keyboard enthusiast and has been playing them since their creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikcoconut Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 here's some key points that were listed on the exhibitor list for sxsw. I'm not sure if all of those are mentioned on the website, but I'm certainly not going to go read through all that text again to find out! http://2007.sxsw.com/music/tradeshow/exhibitor_list/index.php?action=exhib_show&id=S07-1105 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIEKEYS Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 didnt you say on the other thread the creater is your dad... on Harmony site a year ago I found this article Foldup Keyboard Takes Portability To New Levels Musician and inventor David Bubar has received US Patent No. 6,875,913 for his "Collapsible Musical Keyboard" http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2006/Foldup-Keyboard.html is this your dads patent but just as interesting is a much older patent Conn's Wonder Portable Folding Reed Organ http://www.reedsoc.org/ArticleArchive/conns.htm wow we all know nothing is ever new...but I like what you have done...so tell us more and the conn organ was a similar 28 pounds but also held bellows and pedal board...how did they do all that...and with plywood not magnesium. and its body is its own stand as well? ....sometimes the past is purely amazing. I'm sure it would have looked good in some weird Victorian Science Fiction movie with steam powered walking spiders.. so whats the story ...tell us more...if its your dads design give us the details....we are waiting in anticipation...cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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