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New Moog - Clue #3


Les Mizzell

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Assuming the wood pieces are side panels, I don't know how it will ever fit in a case, so it must be designed for studio use. Bolt-on side panels don't hit me has high-end for Moog. Tounge and groove construction for the higher-end units, bolt-on for entry level.

 

I really have no clue as to what it is.

 

I'm sure Bryce knows.

 

Busch.

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I do wonder about the future of Moog Music. Most likely this product was designed by Bob and has now become a reality. The thing is you don't just throw parts together and out comes a great sounding synth. You need a Dave Smith or Bob Moog. Who is the chief designed at Moog Music?

 

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Originally posted by burningbusch:

I do wonder about the future of Moog Music. Most likely this product was designed by Bob and has now become a reality. Who is the chief designer at Moog Music?

 

Busch.

Cyril Lance. There's a nice bio on the Moog site (Read Mike Adams' open letter regarding the future of Moog Music). Cyril shares many credentials with Bob, and is also a fine musician in his own right. His cd is sitting in my player this minute. Powerful stuff.

 

I don't know whether this new piece is a Bob thing or a Cyril thing, but my guess it that it's driven by the necessity to keep the doors open at Moog Music. Something simple, something affordable, something to put a Moog synth in every household.

 

Just guessing

 

k.

 

 

 

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Specs are now on the Moog site. Apparently the name of the synth is, I sh!t you not, "Little Fatty"

 

http://moogmusic.com/news.php?cat_id=107&news=1

 

"Sound editing of continuous parameters (like Filter Cutoff) is done from the front panel by enabling a parameter with its switch (its LED becomes illuminated), and then adjusting its value control. There are 4 value controls, one for each section: Modulation, Oscillators, Filter, and Envelopes. Each is surrounded by a ring of 15 LEDs that show approximately the stored or edited value of the current parameter. The value controls are analog, and when a parameter is activated, the analog control signal is switched to directly control that parameter (RAC or Real Analog Control). For each section, only one continuous parameter can be activated at a time for editing. For parameters that have multiple possibilities (such as Mod Source) pressing that switch advances through the possible Mod sources. For On/Off type switches like Osc. Sync, the LEDs are On when that parameter is on or Off when the parameter is off."

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Here are the other specs:

 

The "***" is a monophonic analog synthesizer, with 100 user editable presets.

 

 

Synth Engine:

 

 

Sound Sources are two ultra-stable analog VCOs. Parameters for the VCOs are:

 

- Osc. 1 Octave: 16, 8, 4, 2

 

- Osc. 1 Wave: Continuously variable from triangle through saw and square to skinny pulse.

 

- Osc. 1 Level

 

- Glide Rate

 

- Osc. 1 2 Sync On/Off

 

- Osc. 2 Frequency

 

- Osc. 2 Octave: 16, 8, 4, 2

 

- Osc. 2 Wave: Continuously variable from triangle through saw and square to skinny pulse.

 

- Osc. 2 Level

 

- Fine Tune (for both Oscillators, located at the bottom left of the panel)

 

 

Sound Modifiers include a single VCLPF: 24 dB /Oct Moog Ladder filter, with filter Overload control and a single Output VCA. Filter parameters are:

 

 

Cutoff

 

Resonance

 

Kb. Control Amount (how much the Key CV modulates the Filter)

 

Filter Env. Amount (how much +/- the filter envelope modulates the filter)

 

Overload

 

 

An Envelope Generator section provides two ADSR EGRs: one to modulate the Filter (Filter EGR) and one to modulate the VCA (Volume EGR). For each EGR, the parameters are:

 

 

Attack

 

Decay

 

Sustain

 

Release

 

 

The Modulation section contains a 4-waveform LFO, and a 1x1 Mod Buss with 6 possible mod sources and 4 possible destinations. Its parameters are:

 

 

LFO Rate

 

Mod Source: (LFO triangle, LFO square, LFO sawtooth, LFO ramp, Filt. EGR, and Osc. 2)

 

Mod Amount (the amount of modulation w/ the mod wheel all the way forward)

Mod Destination (Pitch, Osc. 2, Filter, Wave)

 

 

The User Iinterface (UI) section is described in the UI spec, below the LCD and UI controls are the following:

 

 

Performance controls:

 

 

37-note keyboard

 

Spring-loaded pitch wheel

 

Mod Wheel

 

Glide On/Off

 

Octave Down

 

Octave Up

 

 

To the right of the front panel is the Output section. There is a Master Volume control, an Output On/Off switch, a Headphone Volume control, and a headphone output jack (1/4 TRS)

 

 

The side of the instrument houses the I/O of the instrument.

 

 

AC In (100-250VAC, 50-60 Hz)

 

Power On/Off

 

Audio Out

 

Ext. Audio In (accepts +4dBu line level signal)

 

Pitch CV In (1 V/Oct)

 

Filter CV In

 

Volume CV In

 

Keyboard Gate In

 

MIDI In

 

MIDI Out

Tom F.

"It is what it is."

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Frankly, I'm pretty bored with mono synths. Probably because I own several of them. I still have my Moog Source and Arp Odyssey, which are great as far as mono synths go. But I won't be plucking down any $$$ on ANY mono synth, Moog or not.

 

Mike T.

Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1.

 

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love it! now make it affordable (let's say less than a Nord Lead) and I'm on the market for one. Lets face it, this baby has real analogue VCOs and that classic Moog filter. Mono is very appealing since all my other keyboards are poly.

 

My only reservation is the strange editing matrix. I would dearly have liked to see one knob/button for every function. Looking forward to seeing and trying it.

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Hey Tom, didn't you just buy that Moog Source on EvilBay?

 

Mike T.

Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1.

 

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Yeah.....then I took it in to get it midified. It went to the local repair place somewhat out of tune, and after a long delay, I got it back. Tale of woe described in another thread. Now it doesn't make any sound at all. The shop says "We didn't even touch it"..Grrr!!!

 

It does power up, lights up, and the membrane panel always worked properly. Opened it up - nothing appears to be obviously blown.. I'm guessing a funky power supply that's a little low on voltage, but I'm no electrical engineer. Any suggestions? Anybody want a Moog Source and separate encore midi kit?

 

But back to the topic, the new moog looks a bit like a souped-up Source, based on the 2 osc. spec.

Tom F.

"It is what it is."

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Originally posted by MikeT156:

Frankly, I'm pretty bored with mono synths.

This is the main problem with Moog since a long time. They certainly defined the sky limits in the 70s about synthesizer sounds, but we're now in the 21st century.
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Hey Tom, it sounds like you need to send it to a PROFESSIONAL that works on Moog synths. Many local shops don't have tech's on staff that can work an RA's. Fortunately, I never had any problems with my Source. But then, I don't play it very often either. I got spoiled by poly synths years ago and just play lead lines on them most of the time. Lazy.

 

Cydonia, you nailed it. Time for Moog to do something other than a MiniMoog rehash.

 

Mike T.

Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1.

 

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Originally posted by Markyboard:

What would you guys prefer Moog made instead? Oh...and that you would actually buy? :rolleyes:

Something that has six voices at least.

 

I abandoned a Roland Jupiter-4 decades ago because I couldn't stand its four voice limitation after a while. Now, should I pay a big price twenty years later for a monophonic anything? In my case, no.

 

It's not about Moog, it's about any monophonic synth.

 

Of course, opinions may differ. :cool:

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Originally posted by Cydonia:

Originally posted by Markyboard:

What would you guys prefer Moog made instead? Oh...and that you would actually buy? :rolleyes:

Something that has six voices at least.

 

I abandoned a Roland Jupiter-4 decades ago because I couldn't stand its four voice limitation after a while. Now, should I pay a big price twenty years later for a monophonic anything? In my case, no.

 

It's not about Moog, it's about any monophonic synth.

 

Of course, opinions may differ. :cool:

In other words a new Memorymoog then? Oh wait...It doesn't sound like 6 Voyagers. I'm not sure why I'm so adversarial with you...but I can't stop now. :P:D
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Originally posted by Tom Fiala:

Anybody want a Moog Source and separate encore midi kit?

HELL YES! If you're serious about this please PM me with details and a price.

 

As far as credentials go, you can ask DB about me. ;)

 

Hi Dave :wave: I ADORE THE PEK! Thank you again!

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