232006 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 If you want to practice while traveling, or have something for a family member to start to learn piano on that takes up no space when you're not using it, or are jealous of the guitar players who can bring their instruments to a picnic for a singalong, well, it looks a whole lot better than the things that roll up! Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Christmas came early for some. Quote Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 http://onestringisenough.com/img/fender.jpg Did a little research. There's so many ways to make something cheaper and more portable. I bet you can get a one-string guitar pretty cheap. Solves a lot of problems; no intonation issues, no crazy chords to fret, cheaper to replace strings, can learn to play it 6 times faster and easier. Downside though is it will be tough to play jazz voicings. YMMV. Quote Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 If you want to practice while traveling, or have something for a family member to start to learn piano on that takes up no space when you're not using it, or are jealous of the guitar players who can bring their instruments to a picnic for a singalong, well, it looks a whole lot better than the things that roll up! Agreed, and good to hear. Sure beats the several minutes of life I won't get back after wading through this flaming scheissestorm... Quote 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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re Pete Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I would like to see Casio do a folding piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 @Dave Bryce You may have been fortunate enough to have not read this thread, but I suspect not.... I have discovered that my login still works, unfortunately. Please be kind enough to do as I asked above, and disable/delete or whatever my login, lest I be foolish enough to be tempted to post on this board again. Thanks. I thought there was a private message function for communications of this nature, but I digress... Buh Bye, I guess? Quote 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Dave Bryce, I logged on this morning was still old and broke. Short too! What gives old mate?? Please address these issues post haste. Quote Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBarker Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I looked into the Piano de Voyage. Pre-covid, I was ALWAYS on the lookout for a portable controller for flight gigs. Now, that's not so much of an issue, but eventually it may be again. I did some digging, and it seems it's gotten into the hands of some individuals. However, their website doesn't look like it was updated for a while, and still talks about "pre-orders". There's a review of someone who received there's. Seems like it's pretty serviceable, although the software/firmware seems to be a bit dodgy still. Quote Puck Funk! Equipment: Laptop running lots of nerdy software, some keyboards, noise makersâ¦yada yada yadaâ¦maybe a cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightbg Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 FWIW I did a hands on with this keyboard in the middle of my thread Folding 88 Jake Quote 1967 B-3 w/(2) 122's, Nord C1w/Leslie 2101 top, Nord PedalKeys 27, Nord Electro 4D, IK B3X, QSC K12.2, Yamaha reface YC+CS+CP "It needs a Hammond" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 So you"re saying you think these foldable keyboards are pretty good? Mine is, but it was a wee bit expensive and now no longer available: (btw- there is a mint one currently for sale on Reverb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawback Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (btw- there is a mint one currently for sale on Reverb) I searched Reverb and one came up in Victoria... is that the one? If not for COVID I'd go over there myself and try it out. I've always been interested in VAX77, even though they're way beyond my price justification. Quote ____________________________________ Rod Here for the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Money that folds: Good. Poker playing opponent that folds: Good. Ben Folds: Good. Musical gear that folds: not good. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 So you"re saying you think these foldable keyboards are pretty good? Mine is, but it was a wee bit expensive and now no longer available: (btw- there is a mint one currently for sale on Reverb) I played this one at NAMM. The exhibitors were very nice guys. It was hooked up to MainStage. Needless to say - not poop. As controllers go, excellent. Highly expressive and capable action. Folding mechanism very well thought out. I"d have snatched one up, but not in my budget. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (btw- there is a mint one currently for sale on Reverb) I searched Reverb and one came up in Victoria... is that the one? If not for COVID I'd go over there myself and try it out. I've always been interested in VAX77, even though they're way beyond my price justification.That's the one. It is a latest version, and appears to be in mint condition. I think he wants $4000US for it; new they went for $3500 right before they were discontinued. I actually wish they had built a non-folding version with more economical materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggypants Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Money that folds: Good. Poker playing opponent that folds: Good. Ben Folds: Good. Musical gear that folds: not good. This is why we're generally suspicious of the piano-accordion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
232006 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I have no idea anymore. Whatever! Wibble. Lifes a bitch and then you die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_Gould Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I Lifes a bitch and then you die. But first you have puppies. 𤪠Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groove On Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 My inner mechanic just doesn"t trust the folding keyboard design. Even the well-built VAX 77 makes me cringe when I think about what 'could' go wrong in transit or during a gig. I still prefer a one piece slab design - preferably with a roadworthy case and built-in key cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 My inner mechanic just doesn"t trust the folding keyboard design. Even the well-built VAX 77 makes me cringe when I think about what 'could' go wrong in transit or during a gig.The VAX77 was designed by engineers, it's pretty solid. Eddie Jobson toured with four of them for literally years without any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Eddie Jobson toured with four of them for literally years without any problems. IIRC, he used two on stage, which means the other two were spares. So the question might be, how often (if ever) did he have to engage one of the spares? Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 My inner mechanic just doesn"t trust the folding keyboard design. Even the well-built VAX 77 makes me cringe when I think about what 'could' go wrong in transit or during a gig. I still prefer a one piece slab design - preferably with a roadworthy case and built-in key cover.tbh in a 7x-key format I don't need folding. The rest of the VAX 77 was ergonomically perfect - A-C span (plus a D key for octave shift!), flat top for stacking (front edge of) upper-tier etc. Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 tbh in a 7x-key format I don't need folding. It's a niche, but I see the appeal to people with small cars, or who get to their gigs via public transit, or fly, or have tight living quarters... Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Small cars for sure, and airplanes. Honestly, the reduced length for travel is welcome with their rolling bag even at 76k. But they really went high end on the design and build and it put it out of the price range of a lot of people to give it consideration. The folding mechanism was very well designed. You really couldn't tell once assembled that it was a folding action. Integration with MainStage was also a goal - one of the first boards to really get into doing that seriously. I wouldn't turn one away if it appeared at the pawn shop for a reasonable price. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I found the VAX disappointing because the edges of the keys were so sharp, it was downright painful for organ. I actually had the opportunity to mention this to Eddie Jobson, and he answered that he had filed down the edges on his. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I found the VAX disappointing because the edges of the keys were so sharp, it was downright painful for organ. I actually had the opportunity to mention this to Eddie Jobson, and he answered that he had filed down the edges on his. That is true. The action was fast and tracked velocity well. Compromise feel for piano/organ but edges too sharp for palming. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I see the appeal to people with small cars, or who get to their gigs via public transit, or fly, or have tight living quarters... I will agree with you on "Fly". However... I have a small car, and my 76+73 rig gets in the boot/trunk, without using the back seat. In my experience, the move from 76 to 88 is what forces a bigger car. Public transport is a weight challenge than size (my featherweight Yamaha NP31 is a breeze on public transport, despite being as long as an 88). A folding board in tight living quarters takes up exactly as much room when unfolded as a non-folding board, plus you need "swing space" to fold/unfold. (I guess if you're simply going to store it, not play it, at home, you have a point). Small cars for sure, and airplanes. Honestly, the reduced length for travel is welcome with their rolling bag even at 76k. I guess I can see that. A squat bag the size of a carry-on suitcase may be less unwieldy - provided the weight is right. Cheers, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I have a small car, and my 76+73 rig gets in the boot/trunk, without using the back seat. In my experience, the move from 76 to 88 is what forces a bigger car. Public transport is a weight challenge than size (my featherweight Yamaha NP31 is a breeze on public transport, despite being as long as an 88). A folding board in tight living quarters takes up exactly as much room when unfolded as a non-folding board, plus you need "swing space" to fold/unfold. (I guess if you're simply going to store it, not play it, at home, you have a point). Not every small car is the same. A VAX77 unfolded might be tough to get into a Mini Cooper or Fiat 500, especially depending on what (and who) else needs to be in the car with you. Other countries have cars that are even smaller. Also, the VAX77 is bigger overall than an NP31, and its weight would make it harder to easily maneiver it compared to the ease of maneuvering an NP31. Public transport (which also often involves stairs/escalators and walking, with additional gear besides the keyboard) is complicated by both things... weight as well as overall size that can make a given weight more unwieldy. Someone may want to set up the board for his music work, but tuck it away somehere when not in use. Depending on the particulars of the space, it may be easier to find a spot to store a short squat piece than something twice the length, in terms of, for example, what might fit on the top shelf or floor of a closet, as an example. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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