dazzjazz Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 What's the latest with Leslie Preamp pedals? I'm only aware of the Trek II model. Quote www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcvbnm098 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 If money is no object..... https://www.vintagevibe.com/products/leslie-tube-preamplifier 122 AND 147..... I think someone here has one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I think someone here has one? I would love to have one, however for me, money is an object. Just can't. Want but just can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Booker Lab is producing a series of products which do everything but be a pedal -- i.e. you need to supply either a half-moon switch or a latching pedal to use them. I have one which outputs either 147 or 122, and it has a fantastic internal amplifier. I believe mine is the LBB model D. https://bookerlab.com/product/lbb-breakout-box/ Disclosure - I consult for Booker Lab on these products Quote Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 If money is no object..... https://www.vintagevibe.com/products/leslie-tube-preamplifier 122 AND 147..... I think someone here has one? You can purchase two Trek UC1A pedals for the price of one of these, plus the UC1A appears to have more options. Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 this is true, Dave, but they don't sound the same. One might prefer one over the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I do not like Trek pedals - they seem to be a tone suck. More than once I have set up a leslie rig with a Trek only to hate the sound. I use an old Leslie pedal that sounds so much better. The Booker box looks promising. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elif Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I do not like Trek pedals - they seem to be a tone suck. More than once I have set up a leslie rig with a Trek only to hate the sound. I use an old Leslie pedal that sounds so much better. The Booker box looks promising.I expect the Trek pedals to be very linear. That would be consistent with MS's design approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Trek pedals are fine, I don't get all the hate for them all the time, this comes up once in awhile around here. Mike makes very good products. The UC1A is very good, strong and reliable. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Do you still have yours? Perhaps we could A/B the UC1A and the LBB-D next time you're up here. Quote Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Yeah. Remind me. Quote "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OB Dave Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Booker Lab is producing a series of products which do everything but be a pedal -- i.e. you need to supply either a half-moon switch or a latching pedal to use them. I have one which outputs either 147 or 122, and it has a fantastic internal amplifier. I believe mine is the LBB model D. https://bookerlab.com/product/lbb-breakout-box/ Disclosure - I consult for Booker Lab on these products BookerLab is also developing a pedal, and in addition to footswitches can also be controlled via MIDI. I should have a prototype on my bench soon. Disclosure - I also consult for BookerLab on these products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigmeat Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 WesG, I'm interested in the BookerLab products. I'm in Canada - is the best way to buy directly from their website? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzjazz Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Quote www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 PigMeat - yes, order from the website. If you're ever near Kingston, ON, you can try mine. Quote Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjosko Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Does it also feed power to the Leslie trough the 6 pin ? Perhaps it then also could be delivered for 220 Volt ? Quote /Bjørn - old gearjunkie, still with lot of GAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigmeat Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 PigMeat - yes, order from the website. If you're ever near Kingston, ON, you can try mine. Thanks for the offer to try yours Wes. Funny, I was in Kingston several weeks ago for the blues fest - it was a blast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie_Chicago Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Hey Darren, is this to run a leslie from the legend ? If so , just use the 11pin out and get a H/S 1122 or 1147 box. Trust me its the easiest and quickest setup. But , I"m not sure the H/S box comes as a 240v system ?? Quote "Ive been playing Hammond since long before anybody paid me to play one, I didn't do it to be cool, I didnt do it to make a statement......I just liked it " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.Honey Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Booker Lab is producing a series of products which do everything but be a pedal -- i.e. you need to supply either a half-moon switch or a latching pedal to use them. I have one which outputs either 147 or 122, and it has a fantastic internal amplifier. I believe mine is the LBB model D. https://bookerlab.com/product/lbb-breakout-box/ Disclosure - I consult for Booker Lab on these products I want to connect Nord Stage to a Leslie 122. Could I do it using the Bookerlab breakout box? I don't see a 1/4 line level input in the box. VintageVibe's leslie tube preamp would do the job but $900 for a preamp?! Ouch. Could I use a guitar tube amp as a preamp? I understand the leslie needs a high voltage too to drive the 122 power amp but a guitar amp might be able to provide that since it needs to generate the voltage for it's own tubes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjosko Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I am using this one as PreAmp into my 147 : https://www.thomann.de/dk/art_tube_mp_studio_v3.htm Have not tested it with my band yet, since I have not finish my breakout kit yet, but it sound OK on lower volume. They also have a cheaper model : https://www.thomann.de/dk/art_tube_mp.htm?glp=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8cTPhOGw6gIVmZSyCh3s7wLGEAQYBiABEgK4yfD_BwE I have seen DrFishstick (Ebay) have shown his box with this preamp. Quote /Bjørn - old gearjunkie, still with lot of GAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfloydcramer Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 There is this one, AFAIK the only tube preamp for Leslie currently in production. https://crucialaudio.com/product/leslie-122-147-interface/ . I own one, got it used for half price in Jan. Like it. Haven't made a recording of it but there are a few on YouTube. Vintage Vibe's LP1 is sold out. But Ebay currently has a 147 model Speakeasy for a mere $700 BIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elif Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I couldn't find one i wanted so I made this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.Honey Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I couldn't find one i wanted so I made this: That looks lean and compact! I'm looking at the 6-pin wiring of Leslie 122 it says pin-5 provides 300 Volts DC to the Leslie. How did you take care of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elif Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 That DC is provided by the Leslie to power the preamp in old Hammonds. I don't need it (and don't want it in there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.Honey Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 That DC is provided by the Leslie to power the preamp in old Hammonds. I don't need it (and don't want it in there). The leslie doesn't have power supply so it can't provide power. It's the Hammond that provides power to the Leslie. Perhaps there's something I don't understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elif Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The Leslie does have a power supply. It powers the tube amp and also the 300 VDC used to power the preamps in Hammonds that need it. The preamp in early Hammonds had a power supply that powered only the tube filaments in the preamp, 6.3 VAC. The high voltage for the organ's preamp was provided by a tone cabinet. Why did Mr. Hammond do this? Maybe to ensure that users would be tied to using a Hammond tone cabinet with the Hammond organ. I don't know. Hopefully some Hammond gurus here can pipe in can provide some history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.Honey Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The Leslie does have a power supply. It powers the tube amp and also the 300 VDC used to power the preamps in Hammonds that need it. The preamp in early Hammonds had a power supply that powered only the tube filaments in the preamp, 6.3 VAC. The high voltage for the organ's preamp was provided by a tone cabinet. Why did Mr. Hammond do this? Maybe to ensure that users would be tied to using a Hammond tone cabinet with the Hammond organ. I don't know. Hopefully some Hammond gurus here can pipe in can provide some history. Well who would have thought. Thanks for the explanation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Nathan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I had the TREK but replaced it with one from Speakeasy. Works great. I think you could still find one on Reverb or eBay. Quote Don't rush me. I'm playing as slowly as I can! http://www.stevenathanmusic.com/stevenathanmusic.com/HOME.html https://apple.co/2EGpYXK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Sherry Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 You guys are talking like there"s 1 leslie standard when there"s 5-6, including 3 standards used in the models people care about. Both the 122 and 147 are 6-pin and send back 300v, but the pinouts are different. The 800-series and 900-series solid-state leslies use an 11-pin system that has become the modern standard, and it does NOT output 300v dc. It does provide a 24v tap that can power a preamp, though. This site is still good reading: Captain Foldback The leslie section has a sub-section on all the different pinouts. A little peripheral to the subject of preamps,but if you"re using any vintage gear it"s good to know the basics, at least. Back in the day, a lot of folks liked the Speakeasy stuff for a preamp, which was supposed to add some Hammond grease to the sound of the early digital clones. Of course, back in the day, clones really needed that. Even though they don"t any more, you may still like the mojo it adds to your Mojo. The basic Speakeasy was supposed to emulate the warmth of the AO-28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.Honey Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The preamp in early Hammonds had a power supply that powered only the tube filaments in the preamp, 6.3 VAC. The high voltage for the organ's preamp was provided by a tone cabinet. Why did Mr. Hammond do this? Maybe to ensure that users would be tied to using a Hammond tone cabinet with the Hammond organ. I don't know. Hopefully some Hammond gurus here can pipe in can provide some history. While I have your attention, I understand that the leslie slow/fast control is done by applying a DC voltage to the audio signal. How does that work? Does your metal box do that? I only see a foot switch in the white box which I assume is the preamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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