StanC Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Any one doing this tune? We're having a debate on one chord. It is at the bridge where there seems to be a temporary change of key I think to F. I seen a couple of charts on-line that calls that chord C. This video (1:29) shows the bass on C, but a C chord doesn't sound right to me. Before I saw the vid I thought it was a BbMaj7. Could it be that with a C bass? Or maybe C13? Stan Gig Rig: Yamaha S90 XS; Hammond SK-1; Rehearsal: Yamaha MOX8 Korg Triton Le61, Yamaha S90, Hammond XK-1 Retired: Hammond M2/Leslie 145, Wurly 200, Ensoniq VFX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardS Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I don't play the tune but love it so I took at stab at it. I don't hear the A which would be in the BbMaj7 or C13 but I do hear a G in that chord as well as the other notes in the BbMaj7 so I'm going with a Gm7/C. You can tuck a C in there as well (not just in the bass) as it also works in which case perhaps we would call it a C7(9)(11). That's my guess. Ok, now to convince one of my bands to play this tune! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenWaB3 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Soundwise it's exactly the conclusion you came to regarding a BbMaj7 w/ a C bass. It really is a C chord though, a C11/13. Commonly called a Csus or C11th the addition of the A note on top adds the 13th. Multiple times over the years I would correct bands who had the chord caller (usually, but not always, the guitarist in these cases) who would listen to the top notes of the chord & not take the bass note into account, and some of them were on this exact same song where they called that bridge chord a BbMaj7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 My favorite live recording of STB [video:youtube] David Gig Rig:Yamaha CK88 | Roland Jupiter 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 This is a killer tune. That video shows some nice musicianship. There is a recent live recording of it and the guy's voice is still in pretty good shape all these years later. There is a couple bands covering it out there on youtube as well. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Link Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Perhaps the ultimate one hit wonder. I ran out and bought the LP after hearing this tune. The rest of the record was pretty meh. But what a great tune. aka âmisterdregsâ Nord Electro 5D 73 Yamaha P105 Kurzweil PC3LE7 Motion Sound KP200S Schimmel 6-10LE QSC CP-12 Westone AM Pro 30 IEMs Rolls PM55P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluMunk Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I love that song, but I'm a sucker for a good shuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I used to love that song until I started singing it 6 nights a week... Actually, it's still a great song. I just had a tough time singing it 'cause it was just outside my range. That last "a distant fire" at the end was a nut-buster. Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Soundwise it's exactly the conclusion you came to regarding a BbMaj7 w/ a C bass. It really is a C chord though, a C11/13. Technically I agree with you (assuming I remember right, and the main tune is in A). Functionally, though, I'd go with Bb/C or BbM7/C. If I were to call out C11/13 to my bandmates, I would be met with blank stares. Come to think of it, I am not sure I would remember that if someone had called it out to me before reading this thread. -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyMoe Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 One of my favorite tunes from back in the day for a lot of reasons. Loved the Hammond sound as well as the sax work. One of those tunes that's hard to get out of head when you hear it...... Montage 7, Mojo 61, PC-3, XK-3c Pro, Kronos 88, Hammond SK-1, Motif XF- 7, Hammond SK-2, Roland FR-1, FR-18, Hammond B3 - Blond, Hammond BV -Cherry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernMeister Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I don't play the tune but love it so I took at stab at it. I don't hear the A which would be in the BbMaj7 or C13 but I do hear a G in that chord as well as the other notes in the BbMaj7 so I'm going with a Gm7/C. You can tuck a C in there as well (not just in the bass) as it also works in which case perhaps we would call it a C7(9)(11). That's my guess. Ok, now to convince one of my bands to play this tune! As a whole, it's a Gm9/C. So yes, there's an A. However, the keys clearly plays a Gm7/C, and I'd call it that "for the band" To actually play a full Gm9/C would be adding too much mustard to the chord. In my opinion, the 9th is simply suspended. Besides, this "suspended" note is sung in the melody anyway; so don't mess with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardS Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 As a whole, it's a Gm9/C. So yes, there's an A. However, the keys clearly plays a Gm7/C, and I'd call it that "for the band" To actually play a full Gm9/C would be adding too much mustard to the chord. In my opinion, the 9th is simply suspended. Besides, this "suspended" note is sung in the melody anyway; so don't mess with it! Thanks. That G was missing for me from the other chord choices and agree that Gm7/C is what we should call "for the band". I hear that A in the vocal of course and hear something else supporting it in that mix but I thought it was less central...I didn't mean to mess with the A. I get concerned when naming chords whether to include less colours to allow for perhaps a few players to add something or to name more colours and then have a sound that is too dense as everyone tries to hit each of the additional tones. Often it comes down to knowing your players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathOfInsects Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I get concerned when naming chords whether to include less colours to allow for perhaps a few players to add something or to name more colours and then have a sound that is too dense as everyone tries to hit each of the additional tones. Often it comes down to knowing your players. Whatever makes it understood by the most people the fastest, is the best option. For example, in Db, the note a whole step below the tonic is a Cb. But you can bet your As(u)s that if you call that chord a Cb chord, and not a B, someone is going to curse your name and wish ill upon your dog. Same here. Gm7/C is the quickest right way to get people there. Cool song. Now out! "Mind the Gap," a 24-song album of new material. www.joshweinstein.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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