ksoper Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 After a career of x-brace stands (which have never given me a lick of trouble) I want to get a table style stand for the One. It's 42" wide, 20" deep and 45lbs. I don't own anything this girthy and I don't want to tempt the fates. Of the available stands from Quik Lok, Ultimate, and K&M, what's the consensus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wright Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I am a big fan of K&M. Rock solid. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I have Quik Lok and K&M table type stands and like them both. Both are used for hammer action keyboards. I frequently use one of these as the base of a triple stack, topping it with a double stand. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I am a big fan of K&M. Rock solid. Another huge K&M fan here, albeit with a spider rather than a table stand. But would happily buy any options from them. The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I had a table stand before of unremembered brand. I replaced it with this Gator Frameworks stand which I like a lot. Sturdy, heavy duty, adjustable, folds up for transport. I play standing up so I needed something that would be tall enough. But if I played sitting, I'd still like this stand. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BMUCRRQ/ref=oh_aui_bia_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 K&M 18950. /thread Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I think the K&M 18950 is the stand I had before the Gator. Expensive, unstable, and it fell apart. These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 My OnStage table stand has been great. I'm not sure if it'll be deep enough for you but it's sturdy and relatively cheap. Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humannoyed Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I think the K&M 18950 is the stand I had before the Gator. Expensive, unstable, and it fell apart. How is the Gator? Sure looks solid. All table stands I researched in the past will not go low enough to be comparable to piano height, but that may not be important to you. It is to me and is why I use the WS-550, or the WS-540 if I want something smaller. "It is a danger to create something and risk rejection. It is a greater danger to create nothing and allow mediocrity to rule." "You owe it to us all to get on with what you're good at." W.H. Auden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefDanG Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I had a table stand before of unremembered brand. I replaced it with this Gator Frameworks stand which I like a lot. Sturdy, heavy duty, adjustable, folds up for transport. I play standing up so I needed something that would be tall enough. But if I played sitting, I'd still like this stand. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BMUCRRQ/ref=oh_aui_bia_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Been using this for a few months now - sturdy/easy set-up/looks cool/lotsa room for pedals and feet. Professional musician = great source of poverty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKey Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 stand for the One. I own a couple 18950's and they are rock solid. My favorite is the K&M 18810 Omega. Totally stable and looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-string-man Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 stand for the One. My favorite is the K&M 18810 Omega. Totally stable and looks great. I have two of these, one has stackers on it. Never any problems in the five years that I've been using them. Very solid, quick to assemble/break down. Highly recommended. Occasionally, do something nice for a total stranger. They'll wonder what the hell is going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBluesKeys Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have the OnStage - it has been quite stable. However, I haven't used it since getting a K&M 18880 - big difference in weight. (I also have the 18881 second tier, although it is not attached at the moment). For a single tier, I would expect that the 18810 would be very good, although I've never tried one, they seem to build good stuff. Howard Grand|Hamm SK1-73|Kurz PC2|PC2X|PC3|PC3X|PC361; QSC K10's HP DAW|Epi Les Paul & LP 5-str bass|iPad mini2 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 stand for the One. I own a couple 18950's and they are rock solid. My favorite is the K&M 18810 Omega. Totally stable and looks great. I also love this stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have the Omega and a couple of the 18950s. Unstable? I'd like to know how. Each leg has adjustable feet for when your terrain is not flat. HEAVY duty, and rock solid. Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluMunk Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I've got the Omega, and it's awesome/rock solid. My only complaints are: 1. It's heavy and a little awkward to carry. 2. I have a regular gig where my position often straddles an uneven lip that runs parallel to the keyboard. Those long feet make it hard to position in such a way that doesn't introduce tilt. 3. It's expensive. I use it set up semi-permanently in my studio, but after gigging it a few times decided it was a little too bulky for me to bring in and out of tight gig spaces. I've been looking at the Gator Frameworks table mentioned above as a possible new stand, but haven't quite felt the need to buy it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think the K&M 18950 is the stand I had before the Gator. Expensive, unstable, and it fell apart. ?!?!?!? I can't imagine of any way to make the 18950 wobble a single millimiter. Maybe running a bulldozer over it, but not sure. I also have the Omega. It's also rock solid despite the single legs, has space for any pedalboard (like the 18950) and looks great. Only thing, it's cumbersome to set up-tear down. You have to unscrew some bars, and those pieces of metals are BIG. If you have a big van where you can throw it assembled, or you're going to keep it in the studio, no issue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 45 lbs?!?!?!!!! Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I would never recommend the Omega for a regular gigging keyboard player that had to transport and/or set up their own rig. Sorry, ain't nobody got time for that. (Same with the QuikLok Monolith stand... ugh...) Fantastic stand in the studio, or at a house gig, though. The 18950 gets a vote for me, and I concur with everyone above that has expressed doubt of one ever "falling apart" except through complete misuse by the owner. I've ordered a Gator Frameworks Heavy-duty Keyboard Table as discussed above, purely from a pricing standpoint. It's a solid piece of kit and packs up amazingly compact (and the built-in level is a great addition!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah DC Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The K&M 18880 is a great stand. I use it with the 18881 extension, and its been rock solid despite heavy bar band abuse - no durability issues whatsoever (so far). Numa X Piano 73 | Yamaha CP4 | Mojo 61 | Motion Sound KP-612s | Hammond M3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I'll just add that, while I do love the K&M 18810 Omega, I find myself leaving it home often and bringing another table stand, which is less sturdy but easier to fold. But if I need two keyboards, I always bring the 18810 and the attachment for second tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 With the Gator stand, do the legs sit at 90 degrees from the ground/board? The OnStage one I have is almost identical, except that the legs swing a bit further out, which helps prevent any tipping. Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I think the K&M 18950 is the stand I had before the Gator. Expensive, unstable, and it fell apart. ?!?!?!? I can't imagine of any way to make the 18950 wobble a single millimiter. Maybe running a bulldozer over it, but not sure. This. If ever there was a stand that epitomised the phrase "built like a tank" it's the 18950. I hear folks in the military actually prefer the phrase "built like a K&M 18950", such is the rigidity of this thing. There's also the 18953, which is based on a similar design, but a little less deep. I gather the 18953 can also go a little lower than the 18950, but I have never seen one in person to verify this. Kind regards, James x Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Lobo Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 With the Gator stand, do the legs sit at 90 degrees from the ground/board? The OnStage one I have is almost identical, except that the legs swing a bit further out, which helps prevent any tipping. The legs of the Gator stand go further out than 90 degrees. These are only my opinions, not supported by any actual knowledge, experience, or expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Thanks. The Amazon pictures wouldn't let on. Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six-string-man Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I also have the Omega. It's also rock solid despite the single legs, has space for any pedalboard (like the 18950) and looks great. Only thing, it's cumbersome to set up-tear down. You have to unscrew some bars, and those pieces of metals are BIG. If you have a big van where you can throw it assembled, or you're going to keep it in the studio, no issue at all. I think that you're doing it wrong! To break mine down, I slide out the two legs, turn them 90 degrees, and slide them back in again. This allows the stand to lie in the boot (trunk) of my medium sized car on top of all the other gear. Takes about 30 seconds! Occasionally, do something nice for a total stranger. They'll wonder what the hell is going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider76 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I think that you're doing it wrong! To break mine down, I slide out the two legs, turn them 90 degrees, and slide them back in again. This allows the stand to lie in the boot (trunk) of my medium sized car on top of all the other gear. Takes about 30 seconds! Yes I know, still the upper arms that support the keyboard have to be unscrewed /rescrewed removing and reassembling small parts that are easily lost. And still even if it finally folds flat, it's bigger than any other stand (actually, bigger than any other piece of equipment in my van, keyboard included!). Again, it's not difficult and it doesn't take hours, but as part of a small and quick setup/teardown rig, it's less practical than most other stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJR Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 One of the first things I did with the Omega is switch out the little knob and washers with knobs similar to these: Replacement knobs Note, these are not the correct size thread. I just went down and picked mine up from the hardware store. They are larger and easer to hold/spin, making it easier to spin on and off, and eliminate the need for the washer that will surely get lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Beaumont Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I am using OnStage platform stands they do the job. My only issue with the Omega is I don't see a way to add a second tier. The onstage stand has options for a second tier, mic or music stand and a laptop option. Not more than one of these though. Does the Gator have the ability to use these? Because the Gator does look more solid. The OnStage I'm always afraid that if the legs aren't spread out as far as possible the thing will collapse. And I'm afraid someone bumping the side of it will make the other end fold and collapse. Boards: Kurzweil SP-6, Roland FA-08, VR-09, DeepMind 12 Modules: Korg Radias, Roland D-05, Bk7-m & Sonic Cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wright Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 My only issue with the Omega is I don't see a way to add a second tier. The onstage stand has options for a second tier K&M gives lots of add on options for the Omega. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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