hatricklov Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just saw this come up on Facebook... Gibraltar Key Tree - Sweetwater.com At $450, too much for me. I don't even see a weight listed. Quote MainStage; Hammond SK1-73; Roland XP-80, JV-90, JV-1080, JV-1010, AX-1; Korg microSAMPLER; Boss DR-880; Beat Buddy; Neo Instruments Ventilator; TC Electronic ND-1 Nova Delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Discussed in 2014 and a couple of times earlier this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richforman Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 That looks coolbut extremely non-space-efficient to me. I guess if you only play on big stages where space is no object. Quote Rich Forman Yamaha MOXF8, Korg Kronos 2-61, Roland Fantom X7, Ferrofish B4000+ organ module, Roland VR-09, EV ZLX12P, K&M Spider Pro stand, Yamaha S80, Korg Trinity Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanL Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 the footprint doesn't look too bad, but that front bottom post is right were your pedals need to be. Quote Live: Korg Kronos 2 88, Nord Electro 5d Nord Lead A1 Toys: Roland FA08, Novation Ultranova, Moog LP, Roland SP-404SX, Roland JX10,Emu MK6 www.bksband.com www.echoesrocks.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throbert Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 They don't know how to do key board stands. You'd have to roll your own from their parts. Pricing is way up there though. Quote Triton Extreme 76, Kawai ES3, GEM-RPX, HX3/Drawbar control, MSI Z97 MPower/4790K, Lynx Aurora 8/MADI/AES16e, OP-X PRO, Ptec, Komplete. Ashley MX-206. future MOTU M64 RME Digiface Dante for Mon./net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Tubular stands are a deal killer. I've had one too many keyboards dive to the floor when the tier clamps loosened on USS stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotiDave Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 the footprint doesn't look too bad, but that front bottom post is right were your pedals need to be. from the pic, it does look like they missed the mark there, agree. Quote The baiting I do is purely for entertainment value. Please feel free to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr88s Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 the footprint doesn't look too bad, but that front bottom post is right were your pedals need to be. Indeed. What were they thinking? Quote Nord Stage 2 Compact, Yamaha MODX8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 This Gibraltar Two Tier KB Stand prices out at $389.30 at a popular online retailer. To me this appears to be a more usable configuration than the KeyTree. While all those curved tubes on the KeyTree look positively badazzz, in actual usage it would be inconvenient, frustrating, less than optimal and require uncomfortable compromises and workarounds. Just like some dates I've had in the past. Whether this more reasonable version is worth $400 is a matter of opinion. It does appear really stable for two-fisted playing on two keyboards, with wide open pedal access. Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 the footprint doesn't look too bad, but that front bottom post is right were your pedals need to be. Indeed. What were they thinking? Gibraltar makes products for drummers. Need I say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 The key tree looks bogus with unadjustable heights and the pedals being blocked. The thread below from 2014 brought back wonderful GAS memories. Would still love one of these but am more over loading it in and out than ever. Also not enough room on many stages I play. Discussed in 2014 and a couple of times earlier this year. Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatricklov Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Discussed in 2014 and a couple of times earlier this year. Using Gibraltar parts to make a stand... yes. This particular model and/or price... don't think so. :idk Quote MainStage; Hammond SK1-73; Roland XP-80, JV-90, JV-1080, JV-1010, AX-1; Korg microSAMPLER; Boss DR-880; Beat Buddy; Neo Instruments Ventilator; TC Electronic ND-1 Nova Delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Discussed in 2014 and a couple of times earlier this year. Using Gibraltar parts to make a stand... yes. This particular model and/or price... don't think so. :idk Yes, the Key Tree has been discussed before, in amongst those threads. A dedicated thread? No. Read the responses above pointing out the problems with that particular configuration and you'll understand why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbrkr Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I know its a kludge, but in the past when I've played other players rigs where their keyboard stand interfered with the pedals like the Keytree, I've always had success putting the pedals parallel to the feet and using them that way. It actually works well as it stops pedal creep! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebustrain Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I couldn't ever see myself using one of these stands, but I have retrofitted most of the clamps on my Jaspers A-Frame with Gibraltar drumrack clamps (along with memory locks) and have made a super versatile, super secure stand that sets up and tears down in about 4 minutes and all fits into a lighting truss bag. I have a couple different configurations I can use, but have supported a Kronos 88, a Prophet 12, a Sub37, a Seaboard49, and 2 ipads (along with a beer holder!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGman Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 From what I understand, Gibraltar is very pricey. Just for fun, it would be interesting to find a reasonable price competitor's prices and pieces available to see what is possible. I like the polished aluminum idea too. I wonder if all manufacturers clamps are as strong too? Guess it's time to get out Google ! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebustrain Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 From what I understand, Gibraltar is very pricey. Just for fun, it would be interesting to find a reasonable price competitor's prices and pieces available to see what is possible. I like the polished aluminum idea too. I wonder if all manufacturers clamps are as strong too? Guess it's time to get out Google ! Paul I totally agree - Gibraltar is going to be fairly expensive compared to "traditional" keyboard stands (I'm a drummer too, so I have bought their stuff for years, it's cheaper than, say, Tama or Pearl, but the ala-cart route will give you sticker shock) - it is super flexible though, so if budget allows, you could build something pretty cool. The steel tubing makes it heavy. I suppose you could do it with some 3rd party aluminum tubing too, but I'm not sure if you could get curved ones, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 The Gibraltar stuff is very cool. it is solid yet lightweight. Here is Eric Levy's current setup that he uses with Night Ranger. A very simple and ergonomic design. Then you have David Rosenthal's setup with Billy Joel. It looks complicated but the stand is really quite simple. The main part at the top with two single tube wings for each side. Then Gibraltar accessory mounts for his Macbooks, iPad, etc.. The Gibraltar Key Tree is not really designed for plays like us. The demos I have seen bear this out. Gibraltar has some cool video, including one of a very simple stand using two side piece (the T-Leg) and a couple cross bars. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devnor Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 The horizontal support bar on the keytree can be offset for your pedals. This isn't designed to be a typical stand with boards sitting flat but instead allows for the boards to sit at angles. I've been looking at keytree for my Kronos/Linnstrument/iPad live rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIJO Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Does anyone have a list of parts used to create David Rosenthal's setup. That appears to be the exact setup I am looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Does anyone have a list of parts used to create David Rosenthal's setup. That appears to be the exact setup I am looking for Go to your local Gibraltar drum hardware dealer with the photos and have them design and sell you the parts; it's going to come in around $2k, so there's no sense in screwing around with "maybe this part" or "maybe that part". Pony up the cash and get it done right. YMMV, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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