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Our guitarplayer made a recording the other day with his "cheapo" Zoom H1. Was very surpised about the soundquality!

Didn´t feel that solid though.

 

Do you have any experience or recommendation on these?

Bang for the buck etc..

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A couple guys in my Floyd project have them, I haven't looked at them real close but the recordings from them come out good, even in a loud rehearsal.

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I have the Zoom H6. I love it. It's great for portable multi-tracking, live recordings, field recordings, etc.
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I've got an H2N. As I think I've said before, it's my favourite bit of music kit bar none. Practice sessions, live performances, field/foley recording, it does them all, and in great quality. Pretty solidly built too, mine's had 2-3 years of being slung in and out of cable trunks and rucsacs and only has a slight dent on one corner of the mic cage.

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I've been using the el cheap-o H1 for several years. Love it. Placement is crucial for the best results. I generally set it near the the sound guy, or suspend it from the ceiling parallel to the dance floor of smaller clubs. It surprisingly picks up the "sound of the room" and reflections of walls and ceilings so best results have been with a small tripod from a suspended light booth in a converted barn-bar with lots of wood.

I also use the H1 for field recordings of ambient nature and urban noise. It picks up any little movement of the hand when holding the thing so best to use a tripod or simply set it down and leave it alone while recording.

 

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I use an H1 to record rehearsals, placed on a mic stand, there is screw in adaptor available that slips into a mic holder. I haven't had any issues in 2 years. Adjustable record level so it can handle high SPL's without any distortion in the recording. Best $100 have spent also. Has a headphone stereo jack so you plug into the desk for instant playback.

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I use an H1 to record rehearsals, placed on a mic stand, there is screw in adaptor available that slips into a mic holder. I haven't had any issues in 2 years. Adjustable record level so it can handle high SPL's without any distortion in the recording. Best $100 have spent also. Has a headphone stereo jack so you plug into the desk for instant playback.

 

It's funny this topic came up. I was just watching YouTube reviews of the H1 and was about to make the purchase.

 

Do you rehearse in a circle? Where do you place the H1?

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I've got the H5 for recording nature sounds. Rain, water flowing in creeks, traffic, etc... Found a Roland R-05 on closeout and bought it for backup. Both are great. Twice I have loaned them to friends so they could record their bands when playing live. Both times the band bought a unit after hearing the recordings.

 

I like the H5 best because of the separate XLR mic inputs. One of the bands went with the Boss instead because of some of the other features.

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I have H4n, it works great. Rehearsals, gigs, practice...I record a lot of stuff with it. I usually record 2 built-in mics to catch the audience and room sound and 2 channels from mixer to get clear audio. It works great, you can blend those 2x2 channels to get a clear recording while still getting the "live sound" feeling.

And then you get to argue with bandmates about who F!*&ed up where.

 

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It's funny this topic came up. I was just watching YouTube reviews of the H1 and was about to make the purchase.

 

Do you rehearse in a circle? Where do you place the H1?

 

We rehearse in a smallish long, thin oblong room. PA monitors mounted high against one short wall, drummer down the other end. H1 about 5' from floor on a mic stand about one third distance from PA monitors. Everyone else plays at a volume roughly equal to drums.

 

Here Link is a sample of a song from a rehearsal recorded on the Zoom, the only processing is mild compression.

 

 

 

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Tip: for the H2 and similar, you can put them on a camera tripod...

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Tip: for the H2 and similar, you can put them on a camera tripod...

 

Oh yeah, I use my H4n with camera tripod 90% of the time.

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I've got a Zoom Q3 HD and love it (video and sound together).

Does an awesome job on the sound as long as it's out of the wind , where the auto mike level pulls the volume right down on the 2 mikes. I think a wind sock might sort it outside - need to get one.

It's got a super user friendly touch screen on the back of it for simple operation.

 

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I have an H2, and like others mount it on a camera tripod. I use it for band rehearsals and it's also been my way to record acoustic instruments/voice as I didn't have a mixer with preamps. I set up the zoom as an interface in Logic (on Mac) and sing/play into it. It works way better than I would have expected.

 

For band practices, I typically record higher-quality mp3 as it sounds good enough and keeps the file sizes down. It picks up everything no matter where you are pointing even with 2-channel (it has a 4-channel mode)...the main problem will be keeping the drums from overpowering everything, so I typically would point it away from drums and perhaps have a bit of a shield between it and the kit. I take the recordings into Logic and toss some mastering plugins on it (EQ, compression mostly) to level everything a bit and it's not a bad recording...not demo-worthy (mic-in-a-room will never be IMO) but certainly good enough to pick out goods and bads from practice :)

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I have a Zoom Q3 (not HD) that I won through EQ Magazine, and the sound quality is excellent.

 

Although they seem like cheap little things, I've made lots of recordings and videos, and it's always held up.

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Look at the excellent job my Q3 made at Australia Zoo about 15 months ago , pulling in a very nice tune that happened to be playing on their intercom system in the background -

If anyone knows the name of that song - please chime in.

 

 

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It eats batteries like there's no tomorrow (I think they last about 1/2 hr) so I bought a plug in power supply to go with it - Excellent!.

Outdoors I've always carried lots of batteries , so no real problem. (to say it's unusable is completely wrong)

 

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There was an issue with the first batch of H1's where they would eat batteries while switched off. Zoom had a retification programme in place at no cost, return to point of purchase for the repair.

 

The H1 will record for about 6 hours before the battery is flat.

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Yep , I'm glad I bought one of the corrected units :).

 

You mean 6 hours of SOUND only , I think my Q3 HD exceeds that on sound only mode - which I have used many times - you don't have to have the video part going (it's the video that chews the power).

 

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I've used the Zoom H2 (great) and bought and currently use the Tascam DR-07 Mk2. Both sound great.

 

The batteries in the Tascam last for ages, it fits a cheap camera tripod and you can leave it down the room (pointed at the stage) set to mp3 mode and get hours on there.

 

The headphone output on both is slightly hissy but the recording is clean as you'll discover when it's passed to a PC for editing/trimming. The speaker on the Tascam (there isn't one on the H2)is rubbish.

 

If you've an iPhone already - the quality is good enough for capturing a rehearsal or some song ideas without a specialist mic.

 

 

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Ive been using a Zoom H2 for about 6 years now, rehearsals, gigs, even for a live demo recording. Never had problems, great bit of kit

Remember - you can make a record without an organ on it, but it won't be as good

 

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