cdom Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Surgery was a success I was able to swap the Eminence CX2008 with the Faital 8HX200 in about 30 minutes. As stated in an earlier post, it was necessary to drill new holes to match the Faital's footprint, and the only difficulty I had was removing and reinstalling the "tee" nuts that secure the speaker bolts. I was surprised to see that the coax driver was loose on the CX2008 (refer to Aspens post #2791634) I had never felt any vibration or heard and issue with my sound. It was a simple fix to hand-tighten the driver. The only test I performed was to make sure it actually worked, so I plugged my iPhone to the SSv3 and listened to some Chick Corea acoustic piano tracks. Not a real test, mind you, and certainly not a comparison of speakers... I simply wanted to be sure that I connected the 2 speaker and 2 driver wires correctly. My first rig test will be this weekend when I will play my Nord Stage2 with the upgraded SSv3 in a large room. The REAL rig test will be when I perform with the band at our regular joint on 1/20/17 (Inauguration Night in DC). I've had my SSv3 since June 2015 (over 75 gigs) and it has worked flawlessly for me. I still have to bring a Behringer B1200D sub to hear the acoustic piano sound I like ( http://www.nordkeyboards.com/sound-libraries/nord-piano-library/silver-grand ) with the loud band I play with. We typically bring our own PA for Vocals/Sax, so my stage sound is my only amplification in small-to-medium-size venues. It will be interesting to see if I can eliminate the sub from my rig and hear a clean acoustic piano with the Faital speaker upgrade. Ill share my experience, as it happens. Quote NS2 / NE2 / PX-5S / Monologue / Reface CP & DX / Organ Grinder / Vent1 / MXR Talk Box / L6DL4 / Zed10FX / SS3 / B1200D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Will the MDF vs plywood affect how well the speakers "bite" into the cabinet with the screws? Quote Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve campito Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Check out Tony Levin, he's the master of the Chapman stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I adore and respect Levin's body of work, and while he is a wonderful Stick player, when it comes to Chapman Stick I typically reserve the term "master" for gentlemen like Greg Howard and Bob Culbertson: [video:youtube] [video:youtube] Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Check out my buddy Don Schiff - plays N/S stick (half Chapman, half Steinberger) on most of my records. Another serious badass. [video:youtube] dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think this thread has veered off topic. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdom Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 C'mon, davedoerfler. Don't be a Stick in the mud... Quote NS2 / NE2 / PX-5S / Monologue / Reface CP & DX / Organ Grinder / Vent1 / MXR Talk Box / L6DL4 / Zed10FX / SS3 / B1200D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 that was funny It was supposed to be funny, right? :steve: PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdom Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 "Funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh?"... Yes (sans smiling emoji). Quote NS2 / NE2 / PX-5S / Monologue / Reface CP & DX / Organ Grinder / Vent1 / MXR Talk Box / L6DL4 / Zed10FX / SS3 / B1200D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 this is OT now so I'll let it go. Please respond to my PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspen Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Will the MDF vs plywood affect how well the speakers "bite" into the cabinet with the screws? From talking Sticks....veering back to barking about wood: Yes Zaphod; plywood vs: MDF has always been a controvery for cabinet builders, with fans on both sides. The density of MDF (also called particle board, basically made from sawdust and glue) makes for a good sounding cabinet...with a lower bass resonance, especially @ 50Hz....or in simplier speak; it vibrates 'less'. Probably why most subs are made from MDF (and also to lower cost). But that density also means it is much heavier than plywood (sometimes twice as heavy!). On the down side (pun intended), MDF doesn't do as well in 'drop tests' (don't try this at home kids!). We've had to replace at least one SS3 cab for Sweetwater that had broken apart from a bad fall...as there is no way to repair it. The strength of Plywood is a big plus, and also as Zaphod mentioned, the screws can be easily removed and tightened more often without 'stripping', as compared to MDF. Some of you had mentioned that experience when changing your grills to be covered in Black cloth back in Season 2 of this thread. (NOTE: if/when that ever happens to you just use a toothpick and a drop of glue in the hole, that usually allows the screw to tighten) Plywood will also do much better in the 'drop tests' of gig life. I can't remember ever seeing a plywood cab breaking apart...it even does better than solid wood because of it's layered cross grain construction. And, because of plywood's strength, you can usually use a thinner board for the same job. That benefit, plus it's reduced weight as compared to MDF, will mean a cab from Plywood will be stronger and MUCH lighter. I should also mention that many amp companies over the years have used both; MDF for the baffle board (that holds the speakers) and plywood for the sides and back. This allows for a stronger cab but an acoustically lower resonance baffle board (so it is more linear and won't have a 'peak' tone). But in the end, many cab builders are designing for the lowest possible price point to be competitive, and plywood is about twice the price of particle board...check out your local Home Depot. In our case the SS3 cab doesn't use THAT much wood because it is fairly small, and since we were in the process of standardizing the AC power supply to be world wide compatible with the new lighter DPSU, we decided to also change over to plywood and get the maximum weight reduction possible. Quote Hammond A100 w/ 2x Leslie 122, Leslie 145 w/ combo pedal, Casio P5S, SS3, Groove Tubes SFX G5 cab + CPS/QSC RM4500 KB amp, 1955 Steinway 48" studio upright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbysterling Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 So I have decided to pull the trigger and purchase a powered sub woofer for my Spacestation. After reading through the multitude of posts on the pros and cons, Behringer B1200D Pro vs bass ampss etc., and speaking personally to Aspen (thank you so much!) I have narrowed my choice to a GK MB112-II, or the MB110. The MB112-II is obviously, a 12" with a 200watt amp. The MB110 is a 10" with a 100 watt amp. Price difference is $100.00. I'm looking for advice on which model would be a suited match to the SpaceStation V3. I know some forum members have purchased the two models and was hoping to hear some pros and cons. Thanks! Quote �Ah, music," he said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!� J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Quinn Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I bought an MB112 and returned it because it didn't have enough bottom end when used for jazz organ with left hand bass. Will you be using it for left hand bass? Quote https://alquinn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I bought and kept the B1200D because it sounds better elevated and must be turned down slightly for transparent blending of the 2 cabinets. Especially like the extra XLR outputs that duplicate the signals sent to the SSv3 as I was using a Henry Engineering Patchbox II as an output multiplier to go to FOH, not anymore. B1200D was kicking up so much Bass on Keyscape Rhodes, Zebra2 HZ, PianoTeq Upright, HX-3 and SE Code OD I had to use channel filters for the first time. Strictly my opinion, as I use instruments that others might not be using. But the cabinet works really well, and having to turn down the Sub means I have extra headroom if I need it. B1200D at 2 o'clock. SSv3 flat/noon. Quote Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p19978 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Thinking of buying a new keyboard amp and this thread caught my attention. Too many pages to go thru so I apologize if these Q's have already been asked. Is this loud enough to use as a monitor in a live rock band setting (full drum kit, bass, guitars, etc)? We mic all the instruments as we are not particularly loud. Does the sub out work as a line out (to PA) or is it already EQ'd to put out low frequency only? My keyboard is a Hammond SK1; my current keyboard "amp" is a JBL Eon G2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawback Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The SS should be plenty loud enough as a monitor, especially given your stage volume is not "particularly loud." The sub out is full range, summed. No crossover. Quote ____________________________________ Rod Here for the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawback Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 So I have decided to pull the trigger and purchase a powered sub woofer for my Spacestation. After reading through the multitude of posts on the pros and cons, Behringer B1200D Pro vs bass ampss etc., and speaking personally to Aspen (thank you so much!) I have narrowed my choice to a GK MB112-II, or the MB110. The MB112-II is obviously, a 12" with a 200watt amp. The MB110 is a 10" with a 100 watt amp. Price difference is $100.00. I'm looking for advice on which model would be a suited match to the SpaceStation V3. I know some forum members have purchased the two models and was hoping to hear some pros and cons. Thanks! I bought an MB112 and returned it because it didn't have enough bottom end when used for jazz organ with left hand bass. Will you be using it for left hand bass? Al Quinn's question is critical to what you're intended use is for a bass amp. If you've chosen it because you play left hand bass, you'll need as much range of bass tones as possible. You want it to sound like a bass, not just super low-end frequencies of a keyboard. So now you consider yourself a bass player. Would you be comfortable pumping a real bass out of a 10" speaker? Personally I'd go minimum 12" and perhaps a 15. AND... run a separate line out to the bass amp. If you'll be using it in certain circumstances to boost the bottom end of your keyboards when you have a bassist on stage, then use the sub out from the back of the SS. This is why I chose a bass amp over a sub, it's more versatile. Quote ____________________________________ Rod Here for the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbysterling Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I bought an MB112 and returned it because it didn't have enough bottom end when used for jazz organ with left hand bass. Will you be using it for left hand bass? No. I just want the SS to run as efficiently as I can possibly make it. I've had some hits and misses in various venues; casinos, old movie theaters, and medium size clubs. I've been experimenting with different placements after following posts in this thread. Quote �Ah, music," he said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!� J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbysterling Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I bought an MB112 and returned it because it didn't have enough bottom end when used for jazz organ with left hand bass. Will you be using it for left hand bass? No. I just want the SS to run as efficiently as I can possibly make it. I've had some hits and misses in various venues; casinos, old movie theaters, and medium size clubs. I've been experimenting with different placements after following posts in this thread. Quote �Ah, music," he said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!� J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebleclef Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Thinking of buying a new keyboard amp and this thread caught my attention. Too many pages to go thru so I apologize if these Q's have already been asked. Is this loud enough to use as a monitor in a live rock band setting (full drum kit, bass, guitars, etc)? We mic all the instruments as we are not particularly loud. Does the sub out work as a line out (to PA) or is it already EQ'd to put out low frequency only? My keyboard is a Hammond SK1; my current keyboard "amp" is a JBL Eon G2. I think you will love the SS based on your use case. I use it for my on-stage monitor in a 12 piece funk/cover band that's pretty loud. This little speaker has the power if you need it, and unlike the pair of QSC K8's they replaced, the sound can be heard by the entire band. It's not quite as "hi-fi" as the K8s, and first that can be bothersome. But now I can't imagine any other speaker. Small, light for it's power, it's a great amp. Where do you live? Maybe someone near you has one that you can hear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdom Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Doh... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208514333443470&set=pcb.1221937504554302&type=3&theater Quote NS2 / NE2 / PX-5S / Monologue / Reface CP & DX / Organ Grinder / Vent1 / MXR Talk Box / L6DL4 / Zed10FX / SS3 / B1200D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphollis Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Doh... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208514333443470&set=pcb.1221937504554302&type=3&theater With Aspen's new SpaceStation XL, looks like he was listening to a lot of us here to come up with its big brother. Although he argued with us bitterly while he was off working on his new thing That being said, there looks like a lot to like: - 12" coax, 700 watts - A pair of stereo inputs means no mixer for dual board players like me - Outs can be either L+R or separate L,R which means I can better feed a PA. All good. Now I'm gonna be curious about: - casters on the bottom, as it weighs 65 pounds! - price - and when I can put my order in Quote Want to make your band better? Check out "A Guide To Starting (Or Improving!) Your Own Local Band" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Quinn Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Weight = 65 lbs. Quote https://alquinn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKittel Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Weight = 65 lbs. Wondering if it will get lighter over time like the V3 did wondrously. Quote LIFE IS SHORT, GO GET THE GEAR YOU WANT ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 - and when I can put my order in I'll wait for your review but looks good. Should it have it's own thread? :idk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrpheusNY Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 MAP = $1399 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Oh wow. Was not expecting this. Appears Aspen has not put the tweeter in the XL. 65 lbs. Mixer built in. Wow. I'm getting thirsty. Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Aspen posted, "MAP $1,399. Twice the channels, and more than twice the power and speakers as it's little brother the SS3. The SXL also has 2 new patent applications. One for our unique offset side facing recessed inputs, and another for a new technology we call DTA (Digital Transducer Alignment) that allows us to use dispersed dual side speakers in a separate internally tuned cabinet to enhance the 3D stereo effect of the SS3." Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMEGZ Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Oh wow. Was not expecting this. Appears Aspen has not put the tweeter in the XL. 65 lbs. Mixer built in. Wow. I'm getting thirsty. Since its a coax speaker in there in the tweet part of it ? Quote SpaceStation V3, MoxF6,PX5S,Hammond-SK2,Artis7,Stage2-73, KronosX-73,MS Pro145,Ventilator,OB DB1,Lester K Toys: RIP died in the flood of 8/16 1930 Hammond AV, 1970s Leslie 145, 1974 Rhodes Stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Since its a coax speaker in there in the tweet part of it ? Specs say it´s now a bi-amped front speaker system, not tri-amped anymore. Dunno if it´s sonically really better than the SSv3. But it will be louder and have more headroom for sure and there will be more low-end w/o using a sub and possibly better pseudo-3D sound as well using 2 side speakers in the separate sealed part of the enclosure. Now it all depends on WHICH 12" coax Eminence will be in use,- and WHICH Mid/Hi driver as well. Special designed speakers for Aspen-Pittman Designs/ CPS, or stock Eminence ? A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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