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I just realized why I don't like playing "All the things you are". It reminds me of "I will survive", the song I absolutely despise the most!

Never liked "Stella by Starlight" either, although I have not yet figured which horrible pop song it reminds me of...

 

 

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Huh, I never made that link before. They are both diatonic cycles, although I Will Survive is a pure diatonic cycle and All The Things changes key centres.

 

All the Things: Fm-Bbm-Eb7-Ab-Dm7-G7-C (vi-ii-V7-I-ii-V7-I)

I Will Survive: Am-Dm7-G7-C-F-Bm7b5-E7 (vi-ii-V7-I-IV-vii/ii-V7)

 

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I just realized why I don't like playing "All the things you are". It reminds me of "I will survive", the song I absolutely despise the most!

Never liked "Stella by Starlight" either, although I have not yet figured which horrible pop song it reminds me of...

 

You can't spell Gloria Gaynor without "gay" -- not that there's anything wrong with that. That song is an anthem for women and gay men it appears. Maybe that's why you don't like it? I don't particularly like it, but it wasn't written for me.

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Huh, I never made that link before. They are both diatonic cycles, although I Will Survive is a pure diatonic cycle and All The Things changes key centres.

 

All the Things: Fm-Bbm-Eb7-Ab-Dm7-G7-C (vi-ii-V7-I-ii-V7-I)

I Will Survive: Am-Dm7-G7-C-F-Bm7b5-E7 (vi-ii-V7-I-IV-vii/ii-V7)

 

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That makes sense. I guess it's been a while since I heard "I Will Survive." The way I hear it in my head doesn't really sound like "All the Things You Are" at all. I might be super-imposing harmony from some other annoying disco song.

 

And, of course, now the song is going to be stuck in my head all day.

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I was just thinking about how you can't spell dogma without dog, and you can't spell karma without car.

Whoops, better think about that last one a bit.

:D

 

You want KARMA, Dan? I got yer karma right here. :)

 

I'm not a big fan of "I Will Survive". And, I have to admit, I was pleased when the Disco era came to a close.

 

But something else troubles me here.

 

As far as I'm concerned, if you tack on "Not that there's anything wrong with that." to an otherwise homophobic sentence, it tells me that you really don't care to understand the issues of certain large groups within our society (gays). And if you say that this song is an anthem to women, which it may very well be, well... so what? Is that really a big deal? I mean, I'm OK with women having their own anthem. If it makes them happy, then why not?

 

It has always been helpful for me to try very hard to keep an open mind to new ideas, especially when it comes to all things musical. This includes musicians, their lifestyles, and music that may be hard for me to relate.

 

I am a middle-aged white man. It's not easy for me to understand Rap and Hip-Hop. However, if other folks find that it soothes their soul, and they dig it, then who am I to say it's wrong?

 

If I'm not ready to make the effort to understand why this music is meaningful to someone else, I just turn the channel on my radio.

 

No big deal.

 

I figure that I don't have to understand it in order to let someone else enjoy it.

 

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I think "I'm Every Woman" is a much more flamboyant gay man's anthem than "I Will Survive", but that is kind of like splitting hairs.

 

I got the "Seinfeld" reference to the comment "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

 

That is as much a part of pop culture to say that as "yada, yada, yada" or "master of your domain" or "no soup for you!"

 

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Watch more Seinfeld, ITGITC

 

:D

 

Yeah.

 

I love Seinfeld.

 

I know where the reference came.

 

I just don't much care for how it was packaged here.

 

Nevertheless, I forgive those who can't help themselves. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Also, as a straight man, I must also go on the record to say one of my all time favorite "South Park" characters is definitely "Big Gay Al"... loved his Big Gay Boat Ride. :-)

 

 

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It has always been helpful for me to try very hard to keep an open mind to new ideas, especially when it comes to all things musical. This includes musicians, their lifestyles, and music that may be hard for me to relate.

 

I am a middle-aged white man.

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

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As far as I'm concerned, if you tack on "Not that there's anything wrong with that." to an otherwise homophobic sentence, it tells me that you really don't care to understand the issues of certain large groups within our society (gays).

 

It has always been helpful for me to try very hard to keep an open mind to new ideas, especially when it comes to all things musical. This includes musicians, their lifestyles, and music that may be hard for me to relate.

 

If I'm not ready to make the effort to understand why this music is meaningful to someone else, I just turn the channel on my radio.

 

No big deal.

 

I figure that I don't have to understand it in order to let someone else enjoy it.

 

Tom

 

Amen. :thu:

 

Most tunes within every genre of music have a similar harmonic foundation. The trick on the ears lies in the surrounding elements i.e. rhythm, instrumentation, vocals, recording, etc.

 

Disco producers and musicians took their musical knowledge and repackaged it for the vibe of Club 54.

 

While I'm not a Disco fan, I have found musical elements within it that were happening. Check out B-side tunes by Taste of Honey, Chic, Emotions, etc.

 

Knowing "I Will Survive" is harmonically similar to "All the Things You Are", don't be afraid to do a little Hip-Hop Remix on the next gig. :D

 

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I know that some of our esteemed forum members have Disco battle scars. If this thread causes any flashbacks, head down to your local YMCA for a workout. :laugh::cool:

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ITGITC ... would mind holding my MAN purse? :D

 

Not at all - if it's attached to your lady-friend. :eek::love:

 

Yeah.

 

Dude, you are sooooooo lucky. :)

 

Good on ya.

 

 

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Yeay, it's got to be the II-V-II-V thing that annoys me.

I will survive is more closely related to Fly me to the moon.

 

...and I absolutely loathe that song too.

 

And uh...where did the whole "gay" thing come from???

 

 

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I will survive is more closely related to Fly me to the moon. The synth solo to Led Zeppelin's All Of My Love works brilliantly over either.

 

That's funny. I'll have to try that the next time I feel gay.

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Not all disco was created equal. Chic is impossibly funky, with grooves that but a few can emulate. As with Kool & The Gang, GQ etc.

 

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I think your karma ran over my dogma.

 

:laugh: I love how these threads drift OT sometimes.

 

My bad.

 

I apologize for that.

 

I guess I'm just a dogma lover and I hate it when I have to wash off the goey KARMA. :rolleyes:

 

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Watch more Seinfeld, ITGITC

 

:D

 

Yeah.

 

I love Seinfeld.

 

I know where the reference came.

 

I just don't much care for how it was packaged here.

 

Nevertheless, I forgive those who can't help themselves. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh Tom, relax. I wasn't making fun of gay people. I was just using a Seinfeld reference as a way to point out that I Will Survive is mostly enjoyed by women and gay men. That's not an untrue statement, and it isn't a putdown in any way. Lyrics do have something to do with the appeal of a song, and most heterosexual men don't identify with I Will Survive at all. I'm probably one of the most liberal people you've ever met, and I support the rights of gay people and their lifestyles to the nth degree.

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