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On the other hand you learn one interface for software like MainStage v3. It's very capable of filling your sounds, fx, layers and splits - anything nor good enough you add an AU/VST. You run it on a Mac with current OS and you don't upgrade or use the computer for a bunch of other junk. If you need redundancy you keep a second mac in the bag or you have a backup patch list on a capable controller like a Yamaha MODX. The big plus is you often can just bring the computers regardless of what's in the backline you have your sounds.
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I like it. Its very distinct. I dont feel it sounds anything like the MainStage EP or Lounge Lizard. It has a lot of detail and sounds very intimate for solo jazz timbres but if the source instrument isnt voiced to your liking then yeah - its not the one for you. The detail in Canterbury is awesome as well.
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My personal preference, I like the approach of the DM12. Inspired by a classic but a newly developed UI and a modern FX section. But Uli is a numbers guy, I am sure he has done his homework. The market is for affordable remakes of the classics no one can get their hands on. Maybe once hes mastered this they can move on to other things.
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The best kept secret in mi manufacturing. No where in their advertising copy, specs, or anywhere else does it attest to this. They dont even refer to their actions by their Fatar model #s. Rebranding then as HA, HP, etc. The only ones who say this are owners who say they heard it from a sales rep or from at a NAMM show.
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Building actions is very niche. Fatar hardly has a competitor. So its hard not to be world leading. The TP-8O gets modded from stock to feel better for players - who knows why this is necessary and not just standard or made to order. The TP-40L is popular when needing to play piano, organ, synth and orch stuff all from same keyboard.
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Ya, the Kawai ES8 plays great for a compact action, $1999.
The MP7 not too shabby as well, $1799.
and the venerable CP4, $1999.99 as well.
On the cheap, the Casio action is quite useable for folks that need it to feel piano-like. PX-160 through PX-560, $499-$1199.99.
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Youre one of the few thumbing up the Kronos LS action. Actually first weve heard from here that Ive noticed. How does the MODX7 compare - similar different to the LS?
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Agree - the comparison to Kronos is Montage, most people favor Kronos in these parts.
Kronos has been around a lot longer, but yeah, I suspect that Montage has not been selling as well as Kronos. You can't really get a sense from the Sweetwater and Musicians Friends sites' sort-by-sales/popularity, though, because they put the boards in different categories. But I've wondered whether Yamaha might have gotten more traction if they had instead called the successor to the Motif XF "Motif Montage." I guess Yamaha wanted people to see this as something completely new, but in the process, they lost the cachet and recognition of the Motif name. But who knows, maybe it's selling as well as the Motif series ever did, I don't know.
Yeah, that's kinda what I was saying. The Krome sees about due for a refresh, maybe we'll be surprised.Alas Korg doesnt have anything that can remotely touch MODX (jmo) at $1500 USAnd the actions on Krome models are a escapade into how cheap can we go and still get away with it. Id rather play the FA-06 action and that is not saying very much at all.
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Did y'all know this past summer the guys that make SampleRobot partnered with Yamaha on a Montage Edition of the software that sample straight to the Montage format? I presume any instruments you create/convert would also work on the MODX
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Montage Edition
https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/samplerobot
They also just released a version 6 pro.
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I notice the sluggishness on the RD-2000 action.
The Korg Grandstage is only just ok - nothing to write home about but perfectly useable. I would imagine its in the same league as the GHS on the MODX.
The Grandstage's RH3 is a higher end action, comparable to Yamaha GH and Fatar TL40.
Yamaha's GHS is a lower end action, noisier and with shorter pivot comparable to Casio PX5s, Roland FA08, Fatar TL100.
Out of all lower end actions, I like GHS the most.
Regardless, looks like MODX is the winner! Nothing compares to it in it's price range. I just wish they included some EP modelling from the CP4, last time I checked Montage EP's they still exhibited abrupt sample switching.
Oh I know Korg says their RH3 is a higher end action. But in playing, not really comparable to Yamahas or Kawais high end actions.
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I notice the sluggishness on the RD-2000 action.
The Korg Grandstage is only just ok - nothing to write home about but perfectly useable. I would imagine its in the same league as the GHS on the MODX.
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Am looking for a lightweight 88 key instrument - the inevitable question:for organs, MODX or SP6?
It's an apples to oranges comparison. The SP6 is mainly a digital piano with some additional sounds, and limited editing (at least on board the instrument). The Yamaha is a full blown rompler + synth with very deep editing available on board. Personally, I don't think either of them are that good, organ-wise. The MODX appears to be a slight improvement on its predecessors but Yamaha organ emulations have always been a bit meh. However, I've never been that convinced by the Kurzweil's much-vaunted KB3 engine.
For my own part, I have a cunning plan to use Mainstage with the MODX so I can use Acoustic Samples B5 for my organ needs.
Do your gigs work better with B5 presets or do you like having all drawbars live? The 4 on the MODX is a little yesteryear. I mean you can get 8 faders and much more on a controller if youre bringing a MacBook and MainStage anyway.
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I was just watching the Ksounds Oganismo patches for Montage. Theyve made use of the infamous knob as an organ registration switcher/morpher. Interesting idea for working out settings you use in the same patch and song and morphing quickly or slowly between them. Particularly on the MODX where youre relegated to 4 faders. Should be possible for Ksounds to bring it over fairly easily.
I hope Kurzweil considers updating the Artis7 with some Forte flavor.
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Or for the 76k synth actions fellows - is Artis7 still the better do it all for the money? But its not as FM synthy if thats what youre hot for.
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The YC and Montage are a step up for Yamaha with regard to the organ patches. With the Motif and derived models like the S90xx they really needed the attention of someone sensitive to the instrument and what players expect to step in, like Ksounds for example. BTW they have done programming for the Montage as well: https://ksounds.com/product/organimation-tonewheel-organ-sounds-yamaha-montage/
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But generally speaking the Montages samples and fx (the Leslie simulation in particular) are more capable. The best Yamaha has to offer in this regard is on the Genos.
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But for a performance synth/workstation do it all type board this is an improvement. No, its still not a dedicated clone wheel replacement. And the MODX is lacking the faders organ players would want. But for presets. Not too shabby.
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Hows the Montage for one shot samples? Same process will carry over to the MODX I presume.
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Heck at 30lbs 7oz thank goodness for the 8, even with the GHS.
Either the 7 (16lbs 5oz) or 8 is quite capable for a one keyboard gig.
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Id love to see the Artis7 updated instead of a synth action SP6.
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Awesome, Aidan. Cant wait for the feedback.
Going all software (?)
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I am finding laptops generally run audio streaming intense apps better and obviously much longer
off of being plugged in regardless of power settings.
With MainStage keep redundant copies of your setlists. With lots of tweaking and hitting save a lot, sooner or later you go, "dammit, I want to revert to saved from a week ago".