ElmerJFudd
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Hardly anyone has played one yet.
Have to wait for shipments to show up at dealers.
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Well, if you are following Nords lead, its same action and a software update.
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Thread has gotten long. Just stumbled on Franks unboxing video.
Not sure it it was posted earlier.
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Would be great if Casio did an animation or video of the new actions behavior like they did with the Celviano Bechstein action. Or how Kawai lets us see the design.
Might have to wait for someone to tear on down.
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Thats always the question with Yamaha, others too. They put out an instrument like the CP-50 with a wide sound pallet, and at the same time a CP-1 with a very narrow sound pallet. On the up side, the Montage has been getting updates including patches and samples (some new some brought over from Motif XF). And they have said there will be firmware updates for the new CP-73/88. So we shall see.
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^^^
Lovely. Which stand are you using?
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Contact the manufacturer and ask them what might be causing this.
MIDI message bottleneck or sensors in the action. If you can reproduce and catch on video that is most helpful.
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That was a pleasure to watch.
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I was at NAMM 2010 when the SV-1 debuted. I digged its vibe immediately - the UI especially. I did not care for the on board acoustic piano or the way the action interacted with it. But for EPs, excellent. And the rest of the timbres all useable. This is also when Yamaha showed off the CP-1 which was much more expensive, heavier, and a much better acoustic piano impersonation. It sounded great but the UI (while a beautiful display) was too digital and parameter divey compared to the switches and knobs on the SV-1. I also saw the Zarenbourg at this time but the prototype was not working and it would be another year or two before they actually released one.
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I played the GrandStage as well. Was not impressed with the action or the action to sound connection. Have no idea if the CP-73 action is going to deliver and the 88 doesnt thrill me for dragging around. Then Casio shows up with these super light Privia S series models and Yamaha already has that poor mans Montage in the MODX. And Kurzweil surprised everyone with the SP6. Its good to have options.
The new CPs are so specific to the EP vibe. Id love to have one but not sure I can justify if its not going to go out and do work that often. Would have been something if they went the extra 9 yards and slapped drawbars and an organ engine on it. And just for good measure the CS and or DX engines from the reface models.
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S3000 has pitch bend, 782 additional presets, 200 accompaniment rhythms vs 0, and I think alternative velocity curves.
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I would imagine these sorts of things only matter to keyboard players in the audience who are a little on her older side and thats a pretty small % of an audience depending on what sort of venues and styles you play. Regardless, a shiny black look is very nice coming from the white and blue PX-5S and Electric Blue PX-560. Especially for solo piano and combo gigs.
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If you want a 15 lb nord 4 for 650, don't get this.
But if you want a sweet, self contained thing you won't hestate to take anywhere, it's pretty good.
I've had mine a couple weeks.
In this age of features, it's easy to come up with features not on the keyboard, or different layouts. Id rather loose one octave, and have some keys like my hammond which are short but sensitive all the way up. We should all give fatar a hard time about this. In 2019 nothing is faster than a Hammond keybed! The real reason is the hinge is actually way in there, and that plastic is fantastic.
There are better organs, but it's fine for practice or anytime you don't want to hassle with laptops etc. The Leslie and modualtion are simple, but fine.
The pianos...if you own a real piano, you know all digital pianos suck. You can make the Numa 2x sound pretty decent in context.
I grabbed a pair of the IK iloud micro monitors and they sound great with the numa. I just ordered a DieHard 71688 which will power the whole rig and a fan for many hours.
I also have a Nekatar t4 with a more hammond like keybed and outstanding sensitivity, but it's also stiffer when your thumb goes up on the black keys.
The TP/9 is nice when you are further out, and the aftertouch is quite usable.
Yes, it would be good to have a few extra buttons for faster preset loading, octave swithing, and for that matter a sequencer.
But for a whip it out and jam rig, fine for camping, I like it
(and my old SL-880 is plugged in right underneath, very happy. Off-white TP/30 hammers...oh yes. Bought it new in the late 80s, still great...and controversial LOL)
Have you got yourself a MacBook with MainStage? Whats your opinion on the MIDI implementation and are there enough sliders, buttons, switches, etc. that can be mapped to service well as a controller too?
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#2 on the top 10 uses for gaff tape.
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Impressed by $, size, weight, seemingly very pianistically playable. Sampling and timbre/patch programming improving.
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What Im saying is that it is highly likely that Casios tri-sensor tech is capable of delivering a LOT of data. But can the engine they are using translate all that data into hear-able, feel-able changes in volume and timbre at a 1:1 ratio? Probably not. Also, the velocity curve and how it delivers the volume and timbre changes are more important than the resolution. The right linear smooth so you dont get zipper noise.
Regardless - we agree that the goal is to play and sound like the fine acoustic instruments they aim to digitize. Quite a feat in any age.
As a side note, apparently the PX-5S does send MIDI CC#88 out when using as a controller. http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/7918-px-5s-transmitting-midi-controller-88-to-daw/
If you own Pianoteq Id by curious to see how that combo feels.
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The midi velocity resolution is only as important as the sound engines capability of delivering something we can hear. So, the number of velocity layers in the new Casios sample set would be important as well as the method of smoothly transitioning between them as well as the dynamic range of the DAC. Id be surprised if we could hear/feel 1600+ levels of velocity (resulting in audible volume and timbre changes) on these instruments - but it would be cool to know they are working toward using that data.
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He doesnt appear to be adapting his technique here for the action, at least not significantly. At about 24lbs and being this slim, how is it the keyboard isnt sliding on this table? Velcrod In place? I cant wait till one shows up near me - it has to be tried out. Not sure Ill plunge - but it will be a good indicator of what we can expect from PX-5S Part Deux.
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Not necessarily. Only that it can hold as much as 1.1GB. But not if it can hold more. Though its unlikely for Yamaha to give away storage that wont be used.
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The best demo I've heard the piano on. At 1:00 and 2:37.
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OK, so we know there are enough velocity layers to get a mellow p and a pinging f and some decent seemingly smooth gradation in between. Is he on the 73 in this video? If so, the lesser action tracks velocity pretty well, yes? Timbre of the sample detail, perhaps length and quality are better than all the sub $1k stuff that has been popping up.
Get them in the shops, Yamaha and we will see what's what. Then when the bitching starts, get that firmware update cooking.
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Not yet, that I have seen, https://world.casio.com/manual/emi/
The new CDP-S___ are up though. So should not be long.
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Typically one is for connection to pc and the other for record to/playback from.
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Yes, they do. The timbre/tone is nice on the patches. But the decay is short. As we all know this is because of the length of sample, the storage for them on the instrument and the way the sustain and decay have been programmed - typically using looping to make up for shorter samples. Cost of storage is dropping - Kurzweil, Korg, and Yamaha are offering bigger piano libraries on their high end and mid level boards now. Im sure Casio will do the same. PX-5S successor. Cant wait to see what theyve improved.
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Any more thoughts on the CP73 action?
As for sympathetic resonance, couldnt this be included when they add new sample sets?
Interesting, Dave felt it was synthy feeling. Which is surprising. I find the action on the some Yamaha's like the Montage 8 to have synthy feeling keys, but the weight and swing of the action is not what I would call a synth action. Won't know till the shops have one on the floor unfortunately (if ever).
Mark my words, leaving off sympathetic resonance was a business decision. I doubt highly it will show up in a firmware update unless there is outcry that results in poor sales.
Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($600) and S3000 ($800)
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Poppycock. All the Privias are class compliant USB to host.
Class-compliant USB means you can connect to any Mac/PC/iOS/Android device with no drivers or installation needed.