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Also possible wood is more forgiving to the players joints and tendons but how significantly...
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I see the resemblance. Its uncanny!
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Reminds me of the GEM Promega 3.
http://www.wikizic.org/1-000-000628-GEM-ProMega-3.jpg
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Hmmm, price point... and how long until there is a PC4-7 and 6.
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More pics (and pricing!) here
https://www.sound-service.eu/product/nord-grand/
Looks from these pics like it's going to have an optional console like stand and pedals. Lack of internal speakers may have been part of the deal with supplying the action for this model. Those mounts and nord speakers of course add to cost and would look cooky in most family rooms. This thing is for the man's cave or basement studio.
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I had to double-check that it wasn't still April 1.
Interesting move for both companies. I'm guessing it's based on Kawai's RH III action (MP7SE, ES8).
I really like the semi-vertical control panel and the flat top. To me, ergonomically, this might be the best portable piano available.
Kawai has already been supplying keyboards for the Ravenscroft 275 digital piano. It would be nice if the Ravenscroft digital was a self contained instrument.
That is because the Ravenscroft thing is a modified VPC-1, no? Selling the action to a competitor to use in their DP is a whole different ball game, imho. But I don't think generally Kawai's typical home digital piano customers would go for a Nord Grand Piano. Aesthetically and price wise.
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as long as the Mrs. doesn't mind how the red conflicts with the rest of the furniture in the room. Ach! those speakers!
I like the tilt angle of the control panel. Better than flat and nowhere near banging your knuckles on a knob. But I can't imagine wanting to carry this around. The weight is within reason, but the shape is bulky.
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NORD GRAND
DIMENSIONS
128.6cm (50.7"), 16.8cm (6.6"), 38.7cm (15.2")
WEIGHT
20.9kg (46.07lbs)
KAWAI MP7SE
DIMENSIONS
136.5cm (53 5/8"),17.5cm (6 3/4"), 34cm (13 1/3")
WEIGHT
22.5kg (49.6lbs)
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Heh - blows my mind Kawai would do this.
Maybe as part of the deal Nord has to promise the digital piano would be red.
Maybe they also have data that shows the VPC-1 did not cut into their console sales?
Maybe Kawai will buy Nord.
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Just had the thought-what about the PX-560? It is $400 more than the PX-S3000, but it offers alot for someone in this market
+ MIDI din plugs
+ Color touchscreen that gives access to many features, including sequencer
+ Pitchbend AND mod wheels
+ Pretty blue color
+ Possibly better ePiano sounds
+ Hex layers
+ 2 sounds for the lower split if desired
- Not as slim
- keybed / piano sound not as acclaimed as the S1000/3000
- No Bluetooth
I haven't had any 88 note boards on my radar because of the weight/schlepp factor. The PX-S3000 changed that because of the near universal praises for the keybed, piano sound and the low price point which would make it worth it, esp at 25 pounds. This would get me back to my piano roots, the pleasure of a good piano sound and action is hard to beat! The closest step up in piano action and possibly sound is probably the Yamaha P515, but its twice the weight and lots more money.
I play the 560 regularly and quite like it for a light weight "schleppable" 88k weighted digital piano with built in speakers. The Casio flight bag for it is compact and light as well. Just don't turn around and bang it into any doorways. No doubt its going to sound better than the S1000 or 3000 in just about all sound categories other than the acoustic pianos which are probably very similar.
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[Or are you trying to go from the Casio USB B to a standard MIDI DIN?
There's tons of inexpensive solutions out there for that as well.
These have tended to be not so common, and on the pricey side. The selection does seem to have gotten better over the last year or so, but still not so easy to find in the U.S. -- major sources like Sweetwater don't have them.
ETA: I believe they generally need an additional wall wart power supply as well.
That is definitely the case with the two I googled up,
Cant vouch for them, but it would be something like this,http://www.midiplus.com/html/MIDIHOST.html
Or this...
The cost of them reminds us perhaps of why Casio, Yamaha, etc. drop 5pin MIDI on the models they want to sell this low in the price range.
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Cant vouch for them, but it would be something like this,
http://www.midiplus.com/html/MIDIHOST.html
Or this...
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Interesting. The site says the S1000 is in stock at every GC in the greater NY area. T/F
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I agree on this. Casio is great value for the $. But even they reserve their best stuff for flagships like 5S/560. It would be amazing if the S-1/3000 had everything from the $1k+ models. For me an S3000 would be a slim and light cheap controller with decent piano like-action for a laptop or lower tier for a Kronos 61 or something like that. The onboard sounds are decent enough for around the house and even the casual gig but what were hearing is not necessary thrilling to play beyond the central concept AP patches. Id say the same about Yamaha P125 and the others in its price range.
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He doesn't start playing until 7:10
[video:youtube]
Ok, youtube comparisons again. Going to need to have them side by side... but.... using the video as a rough estimate... the acoustic and rhodes sounds on the Yamaha are preferable, ymmv. Are these direct or the camera mic picking up the speakers? because the AP on the video just above off the Casio sounds much better than what we are getting here...
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S1000 have a way to do direct patch selection, etc?
Can it accept MIDI patch change, etc. from MainStage or Cantabile?
Or do you have to press button and press audible key strike to do everything on this interface?
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Mike hinted at 5S successor. Id be inclined to wait and see what that means. They have years of feedback now from users on refining that design.
The PX-S3000 and 1000 will be a hit at their price points Surely canabilizing sales of the PX-160 (if give or take $200 isnt a deal breaker). But above that - it all depends what your needs are. If internal speakers and the slim design sub $1k are the priority... But if the best they have to offer in sound engines and controller features are the priority the 5S successor is the one to watch for.
The Kawai ES-110 was an improvement in key speed over the 100. Its worth a look to compare to the S1000. See which sounds and action you prefer.
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Yeah the libraries are not great on the MZ-X500 either - but man are the CTX and MZ-X priced aggressively. Certainly on par at this price point, no? Both are more potent than a Roland Go.
Acoustic piano is really their strong point in the Privia line and the Hex Layer synth - but it only comes on the 5S and 560. The bulk of their sounds need work to bring them up to the expectations of this forum. But when they do, wow... well, we see what the 5S has done for competition in the lightweight affordable stage piano range. Personally I think it was the catalyst for the Roland DS88, Kurzweil SP6, Yamaha MODX8, etc.
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Welcome, dear children, into this world of ours. May your lives be filled with love and music.
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With the Go models - if you need a little more oomph than the included amp and speakers give, there is an 1/8 stereo out. Anyone have ideas for a bluetooth type rechargeable portable powered speaker with 1/8 analog in?
This one does 80htz - 20khtz
https://www.fishman.com/products/series/loudbox/loudbox-mini-charge/
Looks like a nice amp, $499, and besides BT it has an instrument and mic in with eq and fx.
The BT speaker with an 1/8" analog in I'd recommend for this is the Klipsch KMC3. . It has 2 x 2" speakers along with a 5 1/4" woofer with 2 x 15 watts rms for the small speakers, and 35 watts rms for the woofer. When not using AC power it runs off of 8 D cell batteries.
It's like a supercharged boom box, Another Scott turned me on to it, about the only BT speaker I've encountered that can do a reasonable job with the bass, and piano sounds gorgeous on it, hifi. I paid $180 new, I believe they've been discontinued but have heard of people picking them up used on ebay. The above link is for a used one on Amazon.
The other BT speaker that I'd love to get is the Bose S1 Pro, $599. This little guy is super small, has 2 channels of instrument/mic with eq and reverb, BT/analog 1/8" in, 3 x 2 1/4" tweeters and a 6" woofer, weighs a little under 16 pounds, has a built in lithium ion battery, and gets absolutely rave reviews for the volume and sound quality this little guy puts out.
Great tip, thank you!
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With the Go models - if you need a little more oomph than the included amp and speakers give, there is an 1/8 stereo out. Anyone have ideas for a bluetooth type rechargeable portable powered speaker with 1/8 analog in?
This one does 80htz - 20khtz
https://www.fishman.com/products/series/loudbox/loudbox-mini-charge/
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Thinking of one of these to carry around when I do vocal rehearsals and coaching. Just something tiny with speaker that can run on batteries. Lots of cheap keyboards with speakers around. But these are tiny. How do you like the action? Feels ok for banging out parts?
Congrats on these beautiful babies. Youre blessed, and quite tired Im certain.
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I dont think the 560 will be changing soon. The 5S is due. And its going to be some bang for your buck, light weight killer synth and stage piano.
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