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Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? #3023856 01/15/20 11:15 PM
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Why is Korg making DX7 clones? Did Yamaha buy Korg? And what is the Korg Nautilus? Is it the Kronos successor?

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Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3023868 01/15/20 11:53 PM
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The panel looks well-supplied with silkscreened operator configurations like the DX7. Six ops seems stingy in 2020 terms, but not if the waveform selection is far heartier than what we've seen in the past. What I can see makes the display's small size a bit dubious for FM, but its all in the implementation. It could also be a Photofake. I'd have to hear more to understand why it has five octaves when so many are opting for three or four. That would help rinse the scent of troll from it. smirk


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Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3023871 01/16/20 12:12 AM
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Remember, Korg also sometimes shows concepts of things that are not near production.


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Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: AnotherScott] #3023873 01/16/20 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherScott
Remember, Korg also sometimes shows concepts of things that are not near production.



Perhaps Nautilus is an Oasys like concept that will eventually trickle down the next generation of Korg products.


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Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3023886 01/16/20 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd

Perhaps Nautilus is an Oasys like concept that will eventually trickle down the next generation of Korg products.



The Kronos has to spin off and trickle down first.

Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3023889 01/16/20 01:28 AM
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Isn’t Kronos tech already in the GrandStage and Vox Continental?


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Looks like the board on the floor is a Kronos judging from the reflection.

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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
Isn’t Kronos tech already in the GrandStage and Vox Continental?


I was thinking more along the lines of Mod-7, AL-1, Polysix, and STR-1 physical modeling keyboards or modules.
I don't know about the rest of it. I don't have a Kronos, and don't normally follow Korg's doings too much.

The FM keyboard in your first post looks good. Could be along the lines of a Mod-7 type keyboard.

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I just can't understand the appeal of a HARDWARE FM keyboard in 2020. At the very least it should have a very big robust touch screen to accommodate all the ops and routings. DX7 was an absolute bastard to program. NI FM8 starts to become much more manageable with a full computer interface. Then again, I see little appeal in digital hardware boards at all, being a VI zealot, but particularly FM.


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Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3023932 01/16/20 12:10 PM
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The photo is real and our forum mates are posting Korg instagram media to be ready for their announcements today.


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Guessing that Korg Volca FM sales over the years have been very good, thus motivating them to release a keyboard sized product.

Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3024037 01/16/20 07:51 PM
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Maybe this is Nautilus? Looks shiny like the mystery keyboard under the wrap too.

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Well the NAMM show has been going on for 3 hours and there are no answers about this. The live blogs are not telling us anything.

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Nothing can replace an original DX7. Nothing.

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We can hope it is easier to program!


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Yamaha didn't buy Korg , there would have been a pretty big press release if that happened.

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Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3024088 01/16/20 11:48 PM
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You can see the opsix and mystery keyboards at the end of this video. Korg is now calling the glass wall the “prototype wall” as per Instagram.


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Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3024092 01/17/20 12:26 AM
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Sheesh, I mean - OK prototype wall. But why were they hyping prototypes that are empty shells with instagram click bait?

It's not like their offerings are that weak this year comparatively... there's a new Fantom... but no new Montage, Stage 3, or Forte.

$3900 2600 is going to have a limited run, but it's pretty cool if you can afford it.
SV2 - ok not "new", but a user feedback driven upgrade to a successful model.
Wavestate - ok, not so much new as a throw back. But not bad... 1Gb wave memory, 64 poly 4 part and about 10000 memory performance locations, vector synth, sequencing $799. If they do a 61k semi weight action model and up the poly for $1299 that might raise some interest around here.
i3, EK-50, XE-20

Maybe they are trying to figure out where they go from Kronos as well....



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I think they're trying to figure out where keyboards fit in with the current music environment. It's pretty late in the day, if there was something new that would interest us it would be all over this forum by now.

Watching that vid makes my feet hurt but I did see a rack of Keytars!

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Lots of guessing. First of all, Korg makes non keyboard products. Nautilus could be a tuner or an Fx unit.

Or maybe its a work out device and a keyboard. I think demanding a 16 pound 88 keyboard suggests that
muscle development is over due. wink

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Originally Posted by JohnH
Yamaha didn't buy Korg , there would have been a pretty big press release if that happened.


In 1987 Yamaha bought a controlling interest (51%) in Korg.

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Originally Posted by Radagast
In 1987 Yamaha bought a controlling interest (51%) in Korg.

But that arrangement ended some time back.


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Originally Posted by AnotherScott
Originally Posted by Radagast
In 1987 Yamaha bought a controlling interest (51%) in Korg.

But that arrangement ended some time back.

Exactly - "After 5 successful years, Kato had sufficient funds to repurchase most of the Yamaha share in 1993."

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Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: ElmerJFudd] #3024296 01/18/20 03:02 AM
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Yep, that be a platinum Kronos.

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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
Yep, that be a platinum Kronos.



Sigh...oh well, it’s my favorite color variation I’ve seen with those end cheeks. Kind of like the Trinity or Triton but nicer. I actually like the limited edition red one but not as much as this. Nice for dark stages!


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Cool,a korg version of a DX7. Here come the Foreigner covers.

I been waiting.........

Re: Korg DX7 Clone? What is Nautilus? [Re: Mighty Motif Max] #3024344 01/18/20 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mighty Motif Max
. Nice for dark stages!

Yes. And Korg does this kind of thing a lot, but frustratingly it seems, never on the boards I'm looking for. Would have loved the idea of a non-black stage-friendly Kronos, but they don't do it in a 61, the only Kronos I'd find light enough to gig with in the first place. (I assume the platinum is only on the 88, which is how they've done it before.) They did non-black options on the M50, but only on the 61, and in that case, I was only interested in the 73...


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Originally Posted by Mighty Motif Max
. Nice for dark stages!

Yes. And Korg does this kind of thing a lot, but frustratingly it seems, never on the boards I'm looking for. Would have loved the idea of a non-black stage-friendly Kronos, but they don't do it in a 61, the only Kronos I'd find light enough to gig with in the first place. (I assume the platinum is only on the 88, which is how they've done it before.) They did non-black options on the M50, but only on the 61, and in that case, I was only interested in the 73...

If you look at my screenshots on the "new kronos and korg booth" thread, there was/is a 61 on display next to the 88.


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Originally Posted by Mighty Motif Max

If you look at my screenshots on the "new kronos and korg booth" thread, there was/is a 61 on display next to the 88.

A platinum 61? Cool! Wish they'd had that sooner. These days, I'm not using my Kronos enough to justify trading up. These days, the Korg I most use is the PA1000.


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Would like a new Kronos 3 most of all.

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