Music Player Network Home Guitar Player Magazine Keyboard Magazine Bass Player Magazine EQ Magazine
Page 10 of 22 < 1 2 ... 8 9 10 11 12 ... 21 22 >
Topic Options
#2849789 - 04/16/17 08:18 AM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: davedoerfler]
ElmerJFudd Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 11/30/14
Posts: 5453
Loc: USA, greater NY area
A $2k Nord Stage at that. wink
_________________________
Live: Yamaha S90ES, Roland VR-700
Home: Rebuilt 1910 Chickering 5'2", Fender Rhodes MKI 88k

Top
KC Island
#2849794 - 04/16/17 08:56 AM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
Dave Bryce Administrator Offline
KCFFL Champ '14, '16
10k Club

Registered: 09/24/00
Posts: 19076
Loc: Thousand Oaks,CA,UNITED STATES
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Originally Posted By: Six-string-man
A multi-timbral 73 key version would see me throwing my credit card at Crumar. I wouldn't even hesitate for a second!


SSM


If they do a 73 key single manual it really needs the full Gemini sound engines (the VA synth in particular) and samples and please stick pitch and mod wheels on (maybe even AT). At that point it becomes a much more useful board for many.

61 key version would replace my Kronos live. Need the synths.... idk cool

dB
_________________________
snax

rockit ==> ReverbNationSoundCloud <==rawk


Professional affiliations: Amphion Loudspeakers • Cloud Microphones • Crumar/GSi • elysia GmbH • Reverb Foundry • Roswell Pro Audio...and Electronic Musician

Top
#2849805 - 04/16/17 11:01 AM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: davedoerfler]
Six-string-man Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 08/06/13
Posts: 1350
Loc: U.K.
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
at that point it becomes a Nord Stage. wink




LOL.


SSM
_________________________
Occasionally, do something nice for a total stranger. They'll wonder what the hell is going on!

Top
#2849835 - 04/16/17 12:51 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: davedoerfler]
Jazz+ Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/15/04
Posts: 5524
How about a Vibraphone patch and an up to speed AP response before any extreme makeovers?
_________________________
Casio PX-360 digital piano. (26 lbs, has 4 internal speakers); Mojo 61. Sibelius 6, Transcribe!, 2 EV SxA360 powered speakers; 1966 Mason & Hamlin piano. Mackie 12" mixer, iPhone 6.

Top
#2849839 - 04/16/17 12:58 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Jazz+]
John Lee Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 02/20/15
Posts: 33
Loc: Croydon, UK
I agree, a vibraphone sound would be great.
_________________________
Nord Electro 2 61, Wurlitzer EP200A, Hammond M100 chop, Neo Mini Vent, EV ZLX12P

Top
#2849842 - 04/16/17 01:02 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Jazz+]
ElmerJFudd Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 11/30/14
Posts: 5453
Loc: USA, greater NY area
Glad someone spoke up about the AP being laggy. Maybe someone with the Gemini tabletop or DMC-122 can chime in if they are seeing the same from the entire sample library/engine. I'm sure they are learning a lot from their work on the Mojo61 and Gemini based models.
_________________________
Live: Yamaha S90ES, Roland VR-700
Home: Rebuilt 1910 Chickering 5'2", Fender Rhodes MKI 88k

Top
#2849843 - 04/16/17 01:10 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: John Lee]
Jazz+ Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/15/04
Posts: 5524
Originally Posted By: John Lee
I agree, a vibraphone sound would be great.


It's in my top 4 sounds for soloing on gigs:

Organ, Rhodes, Vibraphone, Piano.

Can't stand much else these days.
_________________________
Casio PX-360 digital piano. (26 lbs, has 4 internal speakers); Mojo 61. Sibelius 6, Transcribe!, 2 EV SxA360 powered speakers; 1966 Mason & Hamlin piano. Mackie 12" mixer, iPhone 6.

Top
#2849853 - 04/16/17 01:38 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: mate stubb]
Joe BrokeIt Offline
Triple Secret Banninated
10k Club

Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 19167
Loc: Heaven, Hell, or Houston
Originally Posted By: mate stubb
Lookie what showed up on FB tonight.

w00t

Top
#2849854 - 04/16/17 01:40 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
ElmerJFudd Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 11/30/14
Posts: 5453
Loc: USA, greater NY area
wink
As long as it's better than Arturia's efforts at acoustic piano modeling.
_________________________
Live: Yamaha S90ES, Roland VR-700
Home: Rebuilt 1910 Chickering 5'2", Fender Rhodes MKI 88k

Top
#2849857 - 04/16/17 02:01 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
drawback Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 3274
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
Originally Posted By: mate stubb
Lookie what showed up on FB tonight.

w00t


I keep checking for a firmware update...
_________________________
"I think we had it on take four, Burt." ~ Sir George Martin

Kawai KG2 | Studiologic SL88 | Mojo61 | Pianoteq 6 | Ravenscroft 275 | Korg Module

Top
#2849907 - 04/16/17 07:21 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
davedoerfler Online   content
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/27/12
Posts: 6537
Loc: thin ice
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
A $2k Nord Stage at that. wink


did Crumar consult you about pricing? idk
_________________________
I'm not in favor of killing all lively and poetically exciting artistic-technical efforts in favor of a bottom up approach to help technos to power. At all. Not even when "there is coverage". Theo

Top
#2849914 - 04/16/17 08:15 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: davedoerfler]
ElmerJFudd Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 11/30/14
Posts: 5453
Loc: USA, greater NY area
Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
A $2k Nord Stage at that. wink


did Crumar consult you about pricing? idk


LOL!!!!!!!!
yes! and they said (regarding Nord), "those Swedes need to lay off the brännvin when they're setting their price points!".

smile
Actually I added the cost of a dual manual mother-of-controllers DMC-122 which sells in the states for $1499 to the price of the Gemini expansion board @ $879 and got $2338. So I was thinking, you can get the entire brain of their would-be-"Nord Stage" for $879 on an expansion card, in a desktop format for $1149, a Mojo61 for $1499, the kitchen sink for $2388. Even the dual manual Mojo is only $2299.

So, ya. They could really do a 73/76key Gemini based multi-engine single manual for $2xxx.xx. They'd need to address a few things brought up by their most current customers and spend some solid time on an easy to navigate user interface. Perhaps they've already read about the shortcomings of the Nord Stage 2/3 and have some ideas about how they can maneuver around them. Wishful thinking, but this is really the board I wish'd the Mojo61 was going to be when imminent release was apparent.

_________________________
Live: Yamaha S90ES, Roland VR-700
Home: Rebuilt 1910 Chickering 5'2", Fender Rhodes MKI 88k

Top
#2849925 - 04/16/17 09:48 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
davedoerfler Online   content
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 12/27/12
Posts: 6537
Loc: thin ice
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
So, ya. They could really do a 73/76key Gemini based multi-engine single manual for $2xxx.xx. They'd need to address a few things brought up by their most current customers and spend some solid time on an easy to navigate user interface.


well then please let them know. thu
_________________________
I'm not in favor of killing all lively and poetically exciting artistic-technical efforts in favor of a bottom up approach to help technos to power. At all. Not even when "there is coverage". Theo

Top
#2850465 - 04/19/17 01:49 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: davedoerfler]
mate stubb Online   content
Grand Poobah of the Trebuchet
10k Club

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 15586
Here's a FB vid of the new release (no, it's not up for download yet).

https://www.facebook.com/frankmontis.music/videos/1457073964335475/
_________________________
Moe
---
Kawai Novus: "Please feel surprised even more."

http://www.hotrodmotm.com

Top
#2850467 - 04/19/17 01:57 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: mate stubb]
Joe BrokeIt Offline
Triple Secret Banninated
10k Club

Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 19167
Loc: Heaven, Hell, or Houston
I'm very curious to see how this is implemented. First, what Clav parameters are available? Second, do we get both manual and auto-wah, and how is that implemented? I know we will find out "soon," but it will be interesting. For me, when I play Clav parts, sometimes I use autowah and other times I do it manually, depending on what I feel like and whether my foot control of the wah effect is working for me.

Top
#2850468 - 04/19/17 02:06 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Joe BrokeIt]
Delaware Dave Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 04/21/11
Posts: 2751
Loc: Take a guess ....
I assume that they'll implement it like they did on the Gemini; so all four filters plus the C/D A/B pickups, the volume control and the damper lever. Using my PC3 I use the sliders like the switches, when the sliders are down it is equivalent to the switches being in the forward position and vice versa. Same with the pickups, when the slider is down the pickup for C/D is D and the slider for A/B is B. I did this so that it the sliders will react like the switches do. With the PC3 9 sliders, I'm using 7 of them; the damper lever is also assigned to a slider. I would think that it could work similarly on the Mojo ......
_________________________
57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil PC3; GEM Equinox; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini Desktop Module; dyinbreedband.com; thewildthingsrock.webs.com

Top
#2850478 - 04/19/17 02:20 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: ElmerJFudd]
DaveMcM Offline
Platinum Member

Registered: 06/09/04
Posts: 1446
Loc: Cincy, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Glad someone spoke up about the AP being laggy. Maybe someone with the Gemini tabletop or DMC-122 can chime in if they are seeing the same from the entire sample library/engine. I'm sure they are learning a lot from their work on the Mojo61 and Gemini based models.

I have the DMC-122/Gemini and don't find the AP to be laggy at all.
_________________________
Wm. David McMahan
I Play, Therefore I Am

Top
#2850479 - 04/19/17 02:20 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Delaware Dave]
zoooombiex Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 06/27/11
Posts: 553
Loc: Ohio
Ahh, that'd be great to get the damper simulated. I use that a lot... Eagerly awaiting this update

Top
#2850499 - 04/19/17 05:14 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: DaveMcM]
Delaware Dave Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 04/21/11
Posts: 2751
Loc: Take a guess ....
Originally Posted By: DaveMcM
I have the DMC-122/Gemini and don't find the AP to be laggy at all.
I have not experienced this at all with my Gemini module.
_________________________
57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil PC3; GEM Equinox; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini Desktop Module; dyinbreedband.com; thewildthingsrock.webs.com

Top
#2850626 - 04/20/17 10:17 AM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: mate stubb]
Jazz+ Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/15/04
Posts: 5524
Originally Posted By: mate stubb
Here's a FB vid of the new release (no, it's not up for download yet).

https://www.facebook.com/frankmontis.music/videos/1457073964335475/


Th last 30 seconds when the clav solos sounds amazing. It sounds real "ballsy" for a lack of a better word. I have not played a Clav that sounded that full before. That's a more useful Clav than I've had in any rompler. Do I hear a bit of "Whah" effect now.
_________________________
Casio PX-360 digital piano. (26 lbs, has 4 internal speakers); Mojo 61. Sibelius 6, Transcribe!, 2 EV SxA360 powered speakers; 1966 Mason & Hamlin piano. Mackie 12" mixer, iPhone 6.

Top
#2850630 - 04/20/17 10:46 AM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Jazz+]
mate stubb Online   content
Grand Poobah of the Trebuchet
10k Club

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 15586
Yes, it has autowah (also included in the new release) and overdrive on it.
_________________________
Moe
---
Kawai Novus: "Please feel surprised even more."

http://www.hotrodmotm.com

Top
#2850638 - 04/20/17 11:01 AM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: mate stubb]
Jazz+ Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/15/04
Posts: 5524
That's beyond any expectations I had for a "Clav." I expected some thin plucky thing for comping with but this one sounds great as a soloist with Wah and overdrive. Full bodied such that it should really cut it.

Is the solo Wurlitzer sound at the intro been upgraded in some way? Or is it the same as before and is it using Tremelo? It sounds more aggressive and expressive than mine.

My final wish is we get a fast AP. Maybe it needs to be "modeled" too.
_________________________
Casio PX-360 digital piano. (26 lbs, has 4 internal speakers); Mojo 61. Sibelius 6, Transcribe!, 2 EV SxA360 powered speakers; 1966 Mason & Hamlin piano. Mackie 12" mixer, iPhone 6.

Top
#2850641 - 04/20/17 11:08 AM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Jazz+]
mate stubb Online   content
Grand Poobah of the Trebuchet
10k Club

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 15586
He has overdrive and tremolo on the wurli.
_________________________
Moe
---
Kawai Novus: "Please feel surprised even more."

http://www.hotrodmotm.com

Top
#2850667 - 04/20/17 01:08 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: mate stubb]
drawback Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 3274
Loc: Canada
Is this old news? Just perusing crumar.it for news of the forthcoming update and who should appear in the "artists" slide show, but our own brotha Mitch Towne.

Hope you don't mind me posting this, Mitch?
_________________________
"I think we had it on take four, Burt." ~ Sir George Martin

Kawai KG2 | Studiologic SL88 | Mojo61 | Pianoteq 6 | Ravenscroft 275 | Korg Module

Top
#2850688 - 04/20/17 02:38 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: drawback]
Mitch Towne Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 01/26/07
Posts: 949
Ha! No, I don't mind you posting this. I always try to be upfront about my relationship with Crumar. In fact, I made sure to mention it in the first post of this thread. smile

Top
#2850742 - 04/20/17 11:12 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: Mitch Towne]
hrestov Offline
Member

Registered: 07/08/13
Posts: 7
Frank montis said that he use the expression pedal for wah wah, so not autowah wah

Top
#2850887 - 04/21/17 02:54 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: hrestov]
wd8dky Offline
Gold Member

Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 897
Loc: Chicagoland
Firmware v1.20 is available on the Crumar site.

http://www.crumar.it/?a=support&b=34

Top
#2850888 - 04/21/17 02:57 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: hrestov]
AnotherScott Offline
10k Club

Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 11264
Originally Posted By: hrestov
Frank montis said that he use the expression pedal for wah wah, so not autowah wah

Authentic!
_________________________
Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our new video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out!

Top
#2850895 - 04/21/17 04:07 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: AnotherScott]
mate stubb Online   content
Grand Poobah of the Trebuchet
10k Club

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 15586
It has pedal wah and LFO wah, but not envelope follower wah.
_________________________
Moe
---
Kawai Novus: "Please feel surprised even more."

http://www.hotrodmotm.com

Top
#2850896 - 04/21/17 04:09 PM Re: Crumar Mojo 61 Review - (LONG) [Re: AnotherScott]
drawback Offline
MP Hall of Fame Member

Registered: 05/11/04
Posts: 3274
Loc: Canada
Did the update...

Not finding the wa-wa / LFO option for the clav in the edit FX page

The Clav doesn't sound on anything left of F1. Maybe this is authentic to a Hohner Clavinet but would it be possible to include the others?

And... she sure sounds out of tune to me!

AND.... more cowbell wink
_________________________
"I think we had it on take four, Burt." ~ Sir George Martin

Kawai KG2 | Studiologic SL88 | Mojo61 | Pianoteq 6 | Ravenscroft 275 | Korg Module

Top
Page 10 of 22 < 1 2 ... 8 9 10 11 12 ... 21 22 >


Moderator:  Dave Bryce, Stephen Fortner