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Sorry I couldn’t resist 🤣 But it’s my own quick recording jump.wav

This is my little secret gem the OP-X Oberheim vst from 2012 ? A bit EZ Drummer 3 and Modo Bass jump.wav

Exactly ! All the ‘Whitney Houston’ ballad/bell piano’s sounded flat and uninspiring naked. But with chorus it sounded awesome… in the eighties that is.🙄

Nice a bit of Dutch flavor !!!! The organ is the UAD Waterfall B3. In the past i had hardware Hammond XB-2 ,EMU B3, KeyB, Nord, Hx3 , Neo Ventilator and a real Leslie. Software Acoustic Samples B5 (now at version 3) and i had most of the familiar brands or tried them out like IK multi media, B4 , VB3 etc. I only still have and sometimes use the AS B5 and my most recent purchase this UAD waterfall B3 for Hammond parts in my own composed music. As backing parts only. I am no Hammond organist, but pianist in nature and i only used right hand Hammond parts in bands . But i absolutely love the instrument , but never play much left hand ( apart from a walking or comping bass) and can’t play pedal board. My experience is that most simulators sound pretty good when holding a full chord and changing speed from slow to fast. But most are less accurate when soloing on fast with licks and runs. That was my only minor disappointment with the Neo Ventilator which was otherwise stunningly accurate. This software UAD, which is not so rich as the AS B5 in the bass registers, is the first internal simulator, both hard and software which got it absolutely nailed on -fast- ! But it’s hardly talked about and fairly expensive. I think it’s better than the much hailed IK multimedia B3-X with it’s also superb leslie. But when playing all parts combined the UAD , to my ears, sounds superior.

Thanks for asking Dave ! All is well, i am certainly gonna stay for a while and read through the topics ! I will surely start another software related topic. I already posted a very quick blues organ sketch in ElmerFudd's topic about the Hammond XK5 vs....I posted a quick recording of my favorite current software Hammond Clone. I wonder if anyone can guess it right ! Btw the new forum layout/looks are superb !!

Hi Elmer, very nice topic and you inspired me greatly. I don't play in a band for a decade now and only have a Kawai MP11SE with software. It has been some time that i played an organ, but i couldn't resist to upload a software organ i like most. I noodled around and i wonder if anyone can guess it right. sorry not meant to highjack your topic, but as i said hearing those blues riffs i could not resist. organ blues.wav

Funny that you mention them.....there was a great cover an hour ago on tv from Golden Earring (song Radar Love) since they started 50 years ago as the golden EarringS. This band was my first live concert in a 700 audience capacity in my own village in 1980. It was LOUD.....that night i had a ring in my ear and i always was careful after that with loud live performances. Lucky me ! But indeed a great band and we all know them in the Netherlands.

I haven't been here for a while since i don't play hardware synths anymore. But i have very good memories about my time here and i wanted to share a live song with you. I personally never judge a song because it's cheesy, poppy or not my style, but foremost if it is a great performance or not. This is a Dutch song from the early nineties (Ten Sharp) and this live version is from 1996. The two keyboard players use (by the looks of it) a Kurzweil K2000 and Ensoniq TS12. It's glorious pop music and a huge pop hit in my country The Netherlands. I wanted to share this because it certainly not easy to play it in a very tight way live, although the court progressions are fairly easy. And because now i get older i understand how many songs from other countries i never heard. Enjoy !!

I have most current piano plug ins. Like 30+ The VSL series, Garritan, Embertone, Sonic Couture, Pianoteq, Cinesamples, Production Voices, Simple Sam, Art Vista, VI Labs, Wavesfactory , Xperimenta Due and lots of others. I suffer from sample fatigue in the latter stages which mean i only play with few of them and the rest gathers dust because i can’t enjoy most of them due to various reasons. However few still inspire me (a lot). Solo piano : VSL Bösendorfer 280VC full version with tube mic engaged. Easy quick load piano : Simple Sam Steinway Everything mix/band/blend/cut/clear : Embertone Walker with various mic settings. When i played in a live band the Nord piano offerings were pretty pleasing to me, but i sure would have liked the Embertone live because it is the sound i was looking for all my life for in a band. Not to dominant or muddy/booming bass register, lot’s of warm wood/ hammer attack ( not that god awful Yamaha P/CP piercing attack when set on ‘rock piano’ ). The close mics or hammer mics simply immediately cut through a dense mix as many others fail miserably outside of solo usage. only downside is Embertone needs a fast and powerful computer to run smoothly.

Try to cover this without using certain forbidden substances. [video:youtube]

Hahaha 15/16 beats because we CAN !!

Sometimes you stumble up an old record from your youth. In this case an 'alright' dutch blues band. What strikes me most is how much better a real piano sounds than anything digital i have ever used. Warm and cutting through while maintaining presence ,woodiness and grit..as if the required frequencies blend in perfectly. Like with a real Hammond and leslie on old recordings...both still in a league of their own. Yes i understand all the extreme benefits from lightweight master keyboards. But i have always envied guitar players, who with the right equipment, effort and skill can create their dream sound while a digital piano will always sound meh if you are willing to be critical. Please scroll to 6.58 and tell me if you have ever got this blues sound out of your stage piano...i certainly didn't. [video:youtube]

I have The Garritan CFX, Cinepiano, VSL Imperial/Upright/280VC, Embertone Walker 1954, Ravenscroft, Pianoteq, Hammersmith pro, Art Vista super grand, Simple Sam Signature grand, My piano, Wavesfactory Mercury and some smaller ones and lesser known. Absolute favorites are Walker 1954 and both The VSL Bösendorfer Imperial and 280VC . The rest i hardly use anymore....only the Signature grand get"s some practice time besides those three. The rest i don"t care for anymore and i am sure i will never use the Hammersmith, Ravenscroft and Pianoteq ever again.

Yes it sounds gorgeous. There is another one out there with piano/clav in isolation of paradise by the dashboard light. The Embertone Walker 1955 HAMMER mics is the first digital/vst piano i have ( and i have lots ) that can have the same vibe where all others fail. I played both songs in a band and meticulously copied Jim Steinman"s piano parts. Only thing lacking was my digital piano sound. The Embertone Walker 1955 changed that.....but i don"t play in bands anymore

No i don"t think so. But it"s sometimes hard to track down the right info about synths on recordings. In the OP-X vst there is a Queen / want to break free solo synth lead that is sooooo good. I never came anywhere near that sound with Nords and Roland romplers. Turns out the original synth used sounded like a Moog mini..but was actually a Jupiter 8. And a Jupiter 8 can do a perfect 'Jump" ( OBX-A). [video:youtube]

Ahhh...thats good to hear, because it was a bit over the top indeed.

Arturia sounds a bit harsh (?) to my ears...i have the OPX-proII and am still amazed how good it sounds after 10 years[video:youtube]

I have a couple of cd´s and know Carlo for years. What always struck me is that his Hammond sound and kicking bass is so good...i never came close with clones myself. Here a more traditional jazzy-bluesy song where he is going to solo later on....i love the sound from his organ. [video:youtube]

Make sure you also record a bone dry feed....ends up sounding much better most of the time..or with just a SUBTLE amount of effects in the post process. As a keyboard player i never used any reverb live and most effects apart from leslie muddy things up very fast. My experience with some guitarists is that they use to much real tube, to many dedicated effects and to many guitars. While a simple clean strat sound during accompanying parts would sound best most of the time. Maybe it"s just me ..but boy did i prefer a guitar player with just a couple of sounds to play with and accurate use of volume adjustments during solo and accompanying parts....instead of the 'each song needs a whole new arsenal of effect settings"..not knowing how a specific venue would react to a specific setting of /user effect chains programmed in another room.

Bought the VReeds last night and it sounds great i must say. But not like 'in a whole other league" soundwise....i could swear i could hear some tiny bit of synthi modelling too....but not obvious like Pianoteq....i could well be my own skewed perception. But that doen"t matter at all, because the playability is on a whole other level. WOW this is truly something else right from the start. So much control over the bark instead of unexpected velocity switching or a search after a better velocity response. I hope Acoustic Samples do a piano with the same underneath technologie. It would be where GEM left things and bring it to a whole other level. Truly impressed.....although i am far from a Wurlitzer expert.

Yeah i surely remember him. I had a P120 myself and started to hate the thing after a while. I also had the 'bad keys" first edition that forced me to replace several white keys. I thought 'P120 man" was very amusing because he made it sound like the P120 was the 2008 Garritan CFX /VSL CFX Yamaha wet dream.

The leslie 710 has a rotosonic drum and horn. Because the rotary part handles low frequencies poorly, an extra highpass filter is added. Rotosonic also can"t handle bass pedal.........

Okay, I'm confused. The orig Acoustic Samples sounded like the real thing, so you bought something else? You prefer clean over dirty but preferred Broken Wurli which is supposed to be a sample of dirtier? Either there's a typo somewhere, or I'm not getting exactly what you're looking for. Sorry for the confusion.... I liked 'supertramp" record wurlitzer very much, but the real one"s i played sounded no where near the wurli + mix and studio wizardry of the albums i had. I bought Neo Soul studio and Waves and they sounded as 'bad" as the real one"s i played.... not like the sophisticated record Wurli sound i wanted at all. Then i wanted to buy Acoustic Samples Wurli , but i read a topic on gearslutz comparing all top Wurlitzer vsti"s. I decided to go for the sonic couture that interestingly was named 'broken" because in the sound examples in the gearslutz topic 'sonic couture" sounded like the sophisticated mixed record sound i was after the most. The examples of this new wurlitzer from AS sound very promising though......

Strange thing is .... i totally dig a Wurlitzer on records, but i have played a couple live in the past and never clicked with it contrary to Rhodes and Yamaha CP70. Totally on me of course. The Acoustic Samples wurli (original) sounded like the real thing live so i ended up buying the Sonic Couture broken wurli that i liked very much. Even it"s dirty side is well behaved between a certain scope, whereas Neo Soul"s Wurli is all over the place from default ( to my ears). I have waves electric piano"s and the whole Neo Soul package which both are to exagerated in 'supposed fatness and realness". I hardly used any of them after a week.... to much artifacts , raw samples and detuning etc. Ii bought the Scarbee EP88s instead.....buttery smooth and clean without being thin whatsoever. Question since i prefer clean strong sampled products over dirty raw material that others may consider 'real". Where does Acoustic Samples come ? Can it do polished , tightly tuned and gentile too ? If anything i wrote makes any sense to others.......anyways...

I think one's enjoyment of Rise of Skywalker depends upon whether (or not) you're willing to embrace the retelling of the same old Star Wars story one more time. If you're good with it, you'll love it. You"re right and i enjoyed it anyway.... though i was surprised at the lack of imagination in this final chapter Instead of rehashed instant planet destroying weapons they could change a planets orbit with some generated pulse heading for their local star...getting hotter and hotter until they accept the rulership of the new order....to go back to normal orbit.... A Sith Lord can learn both sides of the force while his/her real sinister agenda isn"t infected by good one bit, while Jedi"s cannot explore the dark side of the force without becoming evil in less than minute....so to speak A Jedi infiltrating in the very heart of the Sith order while maintaining his/her good purpose/agenda (hidden for the public also) could be a great mind f"k.