davinwv

Wow - horses for courses - I couldn't disagree more with this if I wanted to. I haven't used a "keyboard amp" live since 1993, instead opting for various small, stereo, passive and active PA systems and IEMs, and I've never looked back. The sound reproduction and depth that I got from a keyboard amp were horrible compared to these other rigs; however, as always, YMMV.

Yet another house band gig with the all-software rig.

Ivory 2 was a finished product, but Sythogy still gave us Ivory 3. There are tons of examples just like this one in VI world. Hopefully, we will get B-3X v2.0 someday.

That is very true (and a pretty big shortcoming). Luckily, most of the basic parameters (drawbars, expression pedal, Leslie speed, etc.) follow customary MIDI CCs. I can control those items just fine from my Numa Organ 2 (which also has fixed MIDI CC transmit values). One place that Waterfall has it all over B-3X is having a centered modwheel engage the Leslie brake. I've asked IK Multimedia for this in B-3X on a number of occasions in several different forums, but they have yet to implement it (or update B-3X to v2.0, for that matter). I have the Leakage knob on my Numa Organ 2 mapped to engaging the Leslie brake (since Leakage isn't a mappable parameter in B-3X anyway).

I'm definitely aware of that. I usually instantiate both Waterfall and B-3X in my remote tracking projects and play the song using both. Almost always, after a few runs on each, a clear winner is revealed, even before messing with those post-effects in B-3X. I like to deliver very raw tracks that give my clients the most flexibility at mix time.

I agree re: the former, but not the latter. VB3-II sounded pretty fake & chirpy to me. Did Guido ever bring back the v1.4 Leslie in VB3-II?

Have you messed around with the micing options? Before I took the time to do that, it did sound pretty cheesy in the factory presets, but the same can be said about B-3X. But after, the Leslie is very good, but still not quite to the level of B-3X's Leslie. Nonetheless, there are times that Waterfall drops into a track like buttah and is very convincing compared to B-3X.

Waterfall is a sleeper hit. Sometimes, it sits in a given mix better than B-3X from the start with zero work.

My shortlist would be B-3X and Waterfall. I own and use both, depending upon the track/project.

Yeah, I saw all of that, too. It is giving me pause to even demo it.

I'd love to hear how these are. My IK Multimedia iLoud Micros are getting scared.

I would think that the V8 Pro is superior in both of those areas.

The Pre-Attack Control definitely makes the EP-88S sound more realistic, but also can make it less playable.

Have you adjusted the Pre-Attack Control in the lower right corner of the UI's main page? It's value changes depending upon what preset you load.

Thanks for correcting me. It's been a long time since I demoed the V8 Pro.