Threadslayer Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I'm assuming that everyone already knows about This but I don't recall seeing it mentioned here, so what do y'all think about this? How much of a market can there be for this at that price point? And what is the raised crossbar at the back? My real B3 pedals didn't have that. Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 The market is the same as the market for the full XK-5 system. If that"s your rig you got to have it. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 You could get 2 Studiologic MP-117 MIDI Controller Pedal Boards, have more notes and $1,000. Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzpiano88 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Low Demand enforces Low Supply? We will make it but it's going to cost you because we don't have the economics of volume to manufacture it. As CEB says, this would apply to the whole XK-5 system. Quote J a z z P i a n o 8 8 -- Yamaha C7D Montage M8x | CP300 | CP4 | SK1-73 | OB6 | Seven K8.2 | 3300 | CPSv.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 The market is the same as the market for the full XK-5 system. If that"s your rig you got to have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFingers Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 You could get 2 Studiologic MP-117 MIDI Controller Pedal Boards, have more notes and $1,000. That doesn't have a pedal length long enough for decent heel toe footwork. And you'd need to add the cost of an expression pedal. And what is the raised crossbar at the back? My real B3 pedals didn't have that. That's a heel rest. Agree, it's not cheap and it isn't too difficult to find some used Hammond pedalboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 You could get 2 Studiologic MP-117 MIDI Controller Pedal Boards, have more notes and $1,000. That doesn't have a pedal length long enough for decent heel toe footwork. And what is the raised crossbar at the back? My real B3 pedals didn't have that. That's a heel rest. I believe you, it's not my field of expertise. Thus, my signature... Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 B-3 has the heel rest on the pedals. C-3 has the heel rest on the bench. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwin Funster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Its cause it's a HAMMOND. Quote FunMachine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I found one of these for far less than the studiologic: I like it, but obviously it's not remotely like: Someday a chinese maker will realise there is a market for a midi-controller with toe-heel action. I recently found a lovely "Grote" 335 guitar, new for $150. I changed the strings and did a normal setup....I love the thing. On the left: The lingering organ obsession amoung western muscians has not yet hit their radar. I'm surprised we don't have a real tonewheel yet. Quote RT-3/U-121/Leslie 21H and 760/Saltarelle Nuage/MOXF6/MIDIhub, SL-880/Nektar T4/Numa Cx2/Deepmind12/Virus TI 61/SL61 mk2 Stylophone R8/Behringer RD-8/Proteus 1/MP-7/Zynthian 4 MPC1k/JV1010/Unitor 8/Model D & 2600/WX-5&7/VL70m/DMP-18 Pedals Natal drums/congas etc & misc bowed/plucked/blown instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaware Dave Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 B-3 has the heel rest on the pedals. C-3 has the heel rest on the bench. I never thought about that until now ...... Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 B-3 has the heel rest on the pedals. C-3 has the heel rest on the bench. I never thought about that until now ...... Me neither These are pretty reasonable: https://www.amazon.com/Tech-Note-Midi-Pedal-Controller/dp/B00TDU2IA8/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&m=A21X4QT5JZ80MG&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1613252342&s=merchant-items&sr=1-1 Quote RT-3/U-121/Leslie 21H and 760/Saltarelle Nuage/MOXF6/MIDIhub, SL-880/Nektar T4/Numa Cx2/Deepmind12/Virus TI 61/SL61 mk2 Stylophone R8/Behringer RD-8/Proteus 1/MP-7/Zynthian 4 MPC1k/JV1010/Unitor 8/Model D & 2600/WX-5&7/VL70m/DMP-18 Pedals Natal drums/congas etc & misc bowed/plucked/blown instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 B-3 has the heel rest on the pedals. C-3 has the heel rest on the bench. I never thought about that until now ...... The bench that came with my A 100 has a heel rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Damn it, I want 32 notes, AGO, MIDI note on-off minimum. Extra points for velocity and aftertouch. I don't understand why that is not profitably doable for under $1000. Quote -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I don't understand why that is not profitably doable for under $1000. Law of economics. Low demand, low quantity, higher costs. Full length pedal claviers have ALWAYS been a niche product and have ALWAYS been expensive. I found one of these for far less than the studiologic: I had one of those. Not a very good design. Here's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 You could get 2 Studiologic MP-117 MIDI Controller Pedal Boards, have more notes and $1,000. Er, no. Setting two spinet-style pedal sets side by side makes them very hard to play. There's a reason why the keys in pedal claviers are constructed in a curvature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 You could get 2 Studiologic MP-117 MIDI Controller Pedal Boards, have more notes and $1,000. Er, no. Setting two spinet-style pedal sets side by side makes them very hard to play. There's a reason why the keys in pedal claviers are constructed in a curvature. Plus the "keys" don't line up, putting a C-to-E range next to another C-to-E range. And yes, the curvature, and the pedal length as mentioned, and the wood vs. plastic construction, and the high end expression pedal... it's kinda like saying, you don't need a Kawai VPC1, just put a couple of Samson Carbon 49 next to each other... Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadslayer Posted February 14, 2021 Author Share Posted February 14, 2021 B-3 has the heel rest on the pedals. C-3 has the heel rest on the bench. Huh. Mine looked like This but not like This Maybe it was offered as an optional accessory or varied by model year? Quote Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Damn it, I want 32 notes, AGO, MIDI note on-off minimum. Extra points for velocity and aftertouch. I don't understand why that is not profitably doable for under $1000.Polyphonic aftertouch! No...? Now, observe and despair: [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 B-3 has the heel rest on the pedals. C-3 has the heel rest on the bench. Huh. Mine looked like This but not like This Maybe it was offered as an optional accessory or varied by model year? Often pedals and benches from B-3 and other Hammond models got piled up at service facilities and touring companies. As organs came and went, they got mixed up. As I recall, my B-2 did not have a heel rest but it had been a road organ so who knows if the pedals matched. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggypants Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Agree, it's not cheap and it isn't too difficult to find some used Hammond pedalboards. Now find one with a warranty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Now, observe and despair: Whenever I see a video of Barbara Dennerlein, I am humbled to the point that I consider quitting. No other keyboardist -- including the many, many others who are much better players than I'll ever be -- has that same effect. That lady is awesome. Quote -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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