brenner13 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Whilst this thread is resurrected, does anyone have a good brass patch for the VR? I know there are lots of brass sounds, but I have not yet managed to get a really good, brass section type sound to use for soul songs etc. Somehow the effects, or overall sound is always wrong. I have fiddled around with it at length but am still unsatisfied. Instead, I always use my brass patch on my PX5s - which is great, but sometimes it would be easier if I could do it on the VR. If you have a good sound and don't mind, please would you tell me which sound(s) you are using, and with what effects. Thank you. I am quite happy with my ac brass sound (layered the two ac presets) but it doesn't have the low punch of the patch I made with the Fantom that I affectionately call Saxy Brass, but my VR09 patch dubbed BigBrass1's does fine for our renditions of Dragging The Line, and the few KC Sunshine and Sam & Dave tunes. The board is packed up for the gig tomorrow...perhaps I'll have some energy left on Sunday afternoon to get it into the house so to share my settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Just tried out out the pedal. It works perfectly - I am so pleased. Thanks again! Are you using the latching pedal just by itself or did you try to see if it would work with your damper pedal connected to a "Y" cable. Just curious. Thanks! Just the latching pedal. I really don't need to use a damper with the VR at present. Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 If you search on YouTube for VR-09 Brass Patch you'll find a video by Roland's Ed Diaz that demos how to create a good one on the VR. Hope that helps... Thanks wd8dky. I am hoping to get time to try this tomorrow. Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Whilst this thread is resurrected, does anyone have a good brass patch for the VR? I know there are lots of brass sounds, but I have not yet managed to get a really good, brass section type sound to use for soul songs etc. Somehow the effects, or overall sound is always wrong. I have fiddled around with it at length but am still unsatisfied. Instead, I always use my brass patch on my PX5s - which is great, but sometimes it would be easier if I could do it on the VR. If you have a good sound and don't mind, please would you tell me which sound(s) you are using, and with what effects. Thank you. I am quite happy with my ac brass sound (layered the two ac presets) but it doesn't have the low punch of the patch I made with the Fantom that I affectionately call Saxy Brass, but my VR09 patch dubbed BigBrass1's does fine for our renditions of Dragging The Line, and the few KC Sunshine and Sam & Dave tunes. The board is packed up for the gig tomorrow...perhaps I'll have some energy left on Sunday afternoon to get it into the house so to share my settings. That would be wonderful if you can Brenner, but no worries if you are too busy. Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 If you search on YouTube for VR-09 Brass Patch you'll find a video by Roland's Ed Diaz that demos how to create a good one on the VR. Hope that helps... Unfortunately I cannot find this video. I found one of Ed editing a brass patch on a Fa08 but not on the VR09. I would appreciate a link if you happen to have one.... Thanks. Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenner13 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 We have back to back shows next weekend, so the rig stayed packed up this week. However if memory serves, I layered up two presets under the Brass button: FS Brass and StackTP Sect. IIRC, it is kind of finicky how you have to get a layer going by pressing and holding the BRASS preset button then press another preset button, then cursor down to the second sound and press the BRASS button again. You should be able to then dial to the desired preset when you are highlighted on the lower tone. I don't think I had to fiddle with too much except maybe the Reverb. I like how the Filter Fader allows some control to simulate sforzando. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 We have back to back shows next weekend, so the rig stayed packed up this week. However if memory serves, I layered up two presets under the Brass button: FS Brass and StackTP Sect. IIRC, it is kind of finicky how you have to get a layer going by pressing and holding the BRASS preset button then press another preset button, then cursor down to the second sound and press the BRASS button again. You should be able to then dial to the desired preset when you are highlighted on the lower tone. I don't think I had to fiddle with too much except maybe the Reverb. I like how the Filter Fader allows some control to simulate sforzando. I found FS Brass and StackTP to be the most useable layering too; I sometimes dropped one an octave for a really big sound. If I'm only using one layer I tend to go for FS Brass but haven't put a lot of thought into it. Lucky enough to play with a section anyway so it's mostly just for thickening the sound out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I'm thinking I use those two together also, on "Power Of Love". Suspect I may use a hint of chorus or detuning but memory is fuzzy. Probably a hint of reverb as well. I definitely have some slapback on them for that big rock horn shot/horn section sound. Brenner13 reminds me that it is tricky to layer two of the same sounds. That's my only UI beef with this keyboard. If I were programming it more often, it would not be an issue. Quote Hammond: L111, M100, M3, BC, CV, Franken CV, A100, D152, C3, B3 Leslie: 710, 760, 51C, 147, 145, 122, 22H, 31H Yamaha: CP4, DGX-620, DX7II-FD-E!, PF85, DX9 Roland: VR-09, RD-800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Thanks very much guys. I had tried various other combinations, but not that one. Sounds very promising. Cheers. Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wd8dky Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 If you search on YouTube for VR-09 Brass Patch you'll find a video by Roland's Ed Diaz that demos how to create a good one on the VR. Hope that helps... Unfortunately I cannot find this video. I found one of Ed editing a brass patch on a Fa08 but not on the VR09. I would appreciate a link if you happen to have one.... Thanks. I'm very sorry about that! I was going from memory and must've had a senior moment. You're absolutely right, the video I was thinking of was on the FA. Quote http://www.weisersound.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 If you search on YouTube for VR-09 Brass Patch you'll find a video by Roland's Ed Diaz that demos how to create a good one on the VR. Hope that helps... Unfortunately I cannot find this video. I found one of Ed editing a brass patch on a Fa08 but not on the VR09. I would appreciate a link if you happen to have one.... Thanks. I'm very sorry about that! I was going from memory and must've had a senior moment. You're absolutely right, the video I was thinking of was on the FA. No worries! I did actually enjoy the FA08 brass video very much. Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorMusic Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I just bought a new VR-09. Can you tell me where to check what version I have? Can't find it anywhere. Doc Quote Gear: Motif ES6, Motif MO6, Roland FA-06, Yamaha CP-33, Privia PX-330, Yamaha DXR-12, Yamaha EMX66ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I am having problems with the volume slider for the organ. Sometimes it has no effect .... Sometimes I push it all the way up and the volume doesn't change...does anyone else have this problem? Is there anything I can do about it? Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I just bought a new VR-09. Can you tell me where to check what version I have? Can't find it anywhere. Doc Sorry Dr Music - I had a quick look through the menus at my gig last night but couldn't find it - which is strange because I am certain I have seen it somewhere..... :idk Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I just bought a new VR-09. Can you tell me where to check what version I have? Can't find it anywhere. Doc Hold and continue to hold the "Exit" button then turn it on. Don't release the exit button. In a moment the version will appear on the screen. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO32 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I don't even know if I should chime in but what the heck...I bought mine to use at church, decent piano, string and organ sounds...Liked the IBEAM to turn rotary on and off...Toyish feel on the keys and could not put feelings into worship with it... Ive kept it as a second board after I purchased my C4 but honestly I hardly ever use it LOVE the 5 pounds! Quote roco Roland VR09 Yamaha CP4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeorges Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Seems like it's been FOREVER since I've visited this forum, but I had to share something I discovered by accident on my VR-09. During rehearsal for Roll with the Changes (REO), while using a split patch (upper=organ, lower=piano), I wanted to give the organ more guts, so I started sliding the drawbars - but they didn't affect the sound. I noticed that the UPPER/LOWER switch below the drawbars was not illuminated, meaning that the drawbars would affect the LOWER rather than UPPER sound. That explained why I didn't hear a difference in the organ (assigned to UPPER). But then when I played the piano side of the split (the LOWER), I heard organ! So what I get is the organ across the entire keyboard, with the drawbars affecting either the LOWER or UPPER side of the split (governed by the UPPER/LOWER switch), but the lower sound (piano) only on the left side of the split. I don't know if this is a feature (maybe I've got Atelier mode set just right or something) or a bug or what - but it was surprising and could actually come in quite useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ01WA Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Does anyone know if the A-49 can be powered by the VR-09 USB out with the right cable. I know it can be powered by the USB input under the flap on the top, but it's not the best place to have a cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Kent Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Played with a new bass player this week. Of my VR-09 he said "That looks like a toy but it sounds great." :-D Quote Mike Kent - Chairman of MIDI 2.0 Working Group - MIDI Association Executive Board - Co-Author of USB Device Class Definition for MIDI Devices 1.0 and 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agitato Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Was just reading through the pdf owners manual for the '09, and it says on page 10, that if you "place the vr-09 on a stand, you must use the (Roland) KS-18Z or (if you're using the optional PK-9 pedal board) the KS-12". Why would they say that, other than to sell their own stands? Has anyone had any safety/whatever issues, by not using one of those stands? I'm honestly asking, because I've never heard of a keyboard manufacturer say you "must" use their stand(s). They might suggest that you use theirs, then say any similar quality stand will work. That what I just read, struck me as quite odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ01WA Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I used a cheap Soundking DF018 stand which has had no problems and should fit the PK-9 pedals when I get them. I built a shelf out of laminated 16mm MDF that holds an A-49 below the VR-09 as a lower manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roygBiv Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Hey TJ01WA I like the music stand holder you built to go into the two holes on the VR09 - how did you build that? I haven't been able to find anything that fits in those holes, would love to build something similar. cheers, roy PS - nice looking setup! with that black shelf, at first glance it looks like a full lenght keyboard underneath - how did you prop up the VR09 above it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ01WA Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Thanks. The Music rest is one I made. It consists of two pieces of threaded rod stuck into the holes (they are 6mm diameter and you have to file the ends down to 5.5mm to fit the holes) I bent them in a vice together to get the right rest angle. The bottom piece of aluminium is a T shape to provide a rest for the sheets, the top two pieces are just L shape aluminium. Cut to the length of the keyboard it holds 5 A4 sheets. The shelf consists of two 16mm MDF board separated by two supports with two stop boards at the back. The dimensions allow the keyboards to sit with 1mm vertical between each other. The top board is staggered so that the A-49 can not disappear under the VR-09. It's all screwed together and screwed to the stand top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roygBiv Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Thanks TJ01WA! I must say, that is very nice looking and professional looking - I am now inspired to do something similar. Although I doubt mine will look half as nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Really nice work Tj01WA! And welcome to the forum! Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Was just reading through the pdf owners manual for the '09, and it says on page 10, that if you "place the vr-09 on a stand, you must use the (Roland) KS-18Z or (if you're using the optional PK-9 pedal board) the KS-12". Why would they say that, other than to sell their own stands? That what I just read, struck me as quite odd. I think you just answered your own question.... Quote "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roygBiv Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 One possibility is that it was a poor translation of the original Japanese text, or a non-native speaker confusing writing in English and substituting "could/should" with "must". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ01WA Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Thanks TJ01WA! I must say, that is very nice looking and professional looking - I am now inspired to do something similar. Although I doubt mine will look half as nice... The dimensions of the shelf are: 1 x 410 x 965 x 16mm (Base) 1 x 250 x 965 x 16mm (Shelf) 2 x 240 x 50 x 16mm (Sides) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Nice carpentry TJ. How much does that dual-shelf weigh? Would look even better with the A61 of course, but either way the nice thing about this all-Roland rig is both boards have matching crappy actions! (Joke) Someone posted a pic of a RD64+VR09 a little while back - that looks like a nice restricted-space rig. I'm working on my own "cramped venue" rig (61 below a Nord 73) and will post in a more appropriate thread later... Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Was just reading through the pdf owners manual for the '09, and it says on page 10, that if you "place the vr-09 on a stand, you must use the (Roland) KS-18Z or (if you're using the optional PK-9 pedal board) the KS-12". Why would they say that, other than to sell their own stands? Has anyone had any safety/whatever issues, by not using one of those stands? I'm honestly asking, because I've never heard of a keyboard manufacturer say you "must" use their stand(s). They might suggest that you use theirs, then say any similar quality stand will work. That what I just read, struck me as quite odd. Partly to sell stands, partly to cover their ass in case of accidents I suspect. You put it on a cheap stand; it collapses and the VR09 breaks because it's made of plastic; you complain to them and they point out they did warn you not to use other products apart from the ones they can specifically confirm are rated to their standards (ie. theirs). The same goes for power supplies - if you use a third party supply and it damages your gear then it's only your fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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