Synthoid Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 [video:youtube] This sounds like a merging of Rap, Owl City, and Coldplay. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 If it goes "wub wub wub wub", it's dubstep. According to my son, who LOVES this crap, that is the defining characteristic: except he calls it "Whomp" not "wub". (Whomp being that ridiculous low end "whomp" generated to encourage listeners to shit themselves on the baby laxative cut they use in X.) Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 This sounds like a merging of Rap, Owl City, and Coldplay. Owl City? Never heard of it. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Well, now I know what the soundtrack in Hell sounds like. Oh yeah. Bonnaroo after 2am was this until daylight. Electric Forest, the same way. This stuff has invaded the jam scene like a bad drug (which explains why it has invaded the jam scene). Regarding the Skrillex drop at 40seconds, that IS the soundtrack to hell. Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 If it goes "wub wub wub wub", it's dubstep. According to my son, who LOVES this crap, that is the defining characteristic: except he calls it "Whomp" not "wub". (Whomp being that ridiculous low end "whomp" generated to encourage listeners to shit themselves on the baby laxative cut they use in X.) GET OFF MY LAWN! http://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gif A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 This sounds like a merging of Rap, Owl City, and Coldplay. Owl City? Never heard of it. One of my nephews played some "Owl" tunes for me this past summer--a YouTube discovery that received a recording contract. Very popular with the teen crowd. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangefunk Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 If it goes "wub wub wub wub", it's dubstep. According to my son, who LOVES this crap, that is the defining characteristic: except he calls it "Whomp" not "wub". (Whomp being that ridiculous low end "whomp" generated to encourage listeners to shit themselves on the baby laxative cut they use in X.) GET OFF MY LAWN! http://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gifhttp://www.realchristiansingles.com/images/smiles/old_man_SMILEY.gif Priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangefunk Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I sampled this lot not expecting to enjoy it. But I did! We are still young at heart Aidan! They probably even play this stuff in Stoke when they´re not making pots!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 If there's too much whomp/wub for you, you're too old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm admittedly not a huge fan of the stuff, but it's better than what passes for dance music here stateside. I'm so over 140bpm 4-on-the-floor mind-numbing house music I have nearly a Clockwork Orange gag-reflex every time I hear it. At least this stuff has breaks and changes and mood shifts in it, rather than beating you to death with one motif for 3, 4, 6, 12 minutes... A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I sampled this lot not expecting to enjoy it. But I did! We are still young at heart Aidan! They probably even play this stuff in Stoke when they´re not making pots!!! Given the amount of pots actually made in Stoke these days, Neil, that's an awful lot of dubstep! Studio: Yamaha P515 | Yamaha Tyros 5 | Yamaha HX1 | Moog Sub 37 Road: Yamaha YC88 | Nord Electro 5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangefunk Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Indeed. Heck, American music can be that specific. Look at blues. To a huge percentage of the population, blues is a pretty generic term, like techno or house. Once you start to dive into it, it's a widely varied music - delta, Chicago, Piedmont, KC, Texas, West Coast, etc..., and once you really get in a bit too far, you can damn near hear differences from one town or block to the next. Soul music's the same way - Chicago, Philly, Motown, Memphis, Miami, Muscle Shoals, etc.... Hell, there are more kinds of Memphis soul than you can shake a stick at.... Thank you for stating what I would have if you hadn't. There is tremendous wisdom in one's ability to recognize that just because you don't understand the nuances of the many facets of a genre, that doesn't mean they don't exist. I am actually one of those who IS feverishly writing dubstep and dubstep light and dubstep influenced hip hop and dubstep influenced pop tracks for licensing. In fact I am one of the founding composers of a library out here in L.A. that does exactly that. Dubstep is a sound that is here to stay, at least in the sense that as electronic music progresses beyond this point it will forever bear the stamp of dubstep's influence. Modern wobbly subs and LFO automation aren't going anywhere. The genre has already progressed beyond the sub 100 BPMs that initially characterized it. Here is one of my favorites from earlier this Summer. This track is ridiculously slamming and it's around what, 110 BPM?: [video:youtube]DpS7nCweYZI Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewImprov Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I've had the typical old-white-guy knee-jerk response to Dubstep so far, probably the last electronic movement that really caught my ear was the jazz meets drum 'n bass era of the late 90's (Squarepusher, et al). But watching these videos, I kinda see what I'm missing, while I still don't hear anything that innovative in the music, the dancing really does bring something new, all of the sort of stutter movements that match the production, the alternating between overly exaggerated smooth moves and hyper glitchy awkwardness, the extreme slowing-down and speeding up, all of it seems pretty interesting. Turn up the speaker Hop, flop, squawk It's a keeper -Captain Beefheart, Ice Cream for Crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottasin Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 WOMP I hate womp music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The genre has already progressed beyond the sub 100 BPMs that initially characterized it. Here is one of my favorites from earlier this Summer. This track is ridiculously slamming and it's around what, 110 BPM? ... or one could argue that Skrillex has progressed beyond dubstep. To dubstep purists that is not dubstep. I personally don't care what it's called. I put "Reptile" in my club playlist practically every night to great response. Almost anything between 100-110bpm is coveted among DJ's - there's not a lot there and it's a very popular dance tempo. Most modern tracks are much slower or faster. I'm not as sure as you are about dubstep sticking around, but I do think Sonny Moore (Skrillex) will be - for quite awhile. Very talented kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus64 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Is Dubstep here to stay? Damn straight. It will always be here, just like the Sicilienne, Gavotte, Gigue, Sarabande.................... I have no idea what dubstep is. Must be some newfangled thing that these new bands like the Dave Clark 5 and Herman's Hermits are doing. Damn Hippies, get a job and a haircut and stop playin that Dub thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogut Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The most popular dubstep track so far, with countless downloads and over 50 million Youtube hits: [video:youtube] Actually these "drop sections" are really creative. Listening to them closer from a recording perspective, they seem to be more than just a bunch of sound effects, or synths effects crammed together. There's more going on there. Almost can say is like a effects performance. I hear the recording of these drop sections being done one bar at a time, within those bars is definitely a synth performance. Would be badass if these drops could be played live with keys -Greg Motif XS8, MOXF8, Hammond XK1c, Vent Rhodes Mark II 88 suitcase, Yamaha P255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Yeah, the first thing I noticed about the (not remix) stuff is that it really does have a classical feel to the arrangements - establish a motif, evolve the motif, shift to another motif (the drop), evolve it, return to the main or some derivation thereof. I mean, we're not dealing with the harmonic complexities of a symphony here, but at its core, there are musical sensibilities going on. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 My 13 year-old son loves dubstep, and Skrillex is his favorite artist. Me? Not so much. I like a huge variety of musical styles, but the one constant in all of the artists that I connect with is melody. Whether it's Iron Maiden, the Smiths, or Neil Diamond, as long as a song has a strong melodic presence, I can get into it. Since dubstep is largely rhythmic, I struggle to like it. I have the same problem with certain types of jazz, frankly. That said, some dubstep is growing on me a little because I admire the quality of the production and the synth work. Finally, for what it's worth, I'm definitely turning into an old man. When my son first cranked some dubstep at home, I actually said the words "Turn that crap down! You call that music?" I'm so ashamed.... Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHz Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 [video:youtube] Rhodes MarkI Stage, Nord Stage 2 73SW, Moog SUB37, Elektron Analog Keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I reckon Grandpa Al is an old school hipster, especially with that sweater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Dub step -- any relation to this? [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HK3oE6fRD0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeljjison Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'm 24, so I'm not old yet. I had ignored dubstep and found it boring until about 3 months ago. I still find the vast majority to be boring, which is normal... in most genres most of the songs aren't good well written songs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9UYciEl6oo&feature=related Dubstep isn't just a 5 minute creation based on synth presets. There is a hell of a lot of subtle stuff going on with creating those synth sounds to give them the right amount of momentum and punch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogut Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 [video:youtube] LOL I love that.... At least he's giving it a chance. Asking the right questions... -Greg Motif XS8, MOXF8, Hammond XK1c, Vent Rhodes Mark II 88 suitcase, Yamaha P255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 LOL I love that.... At least he's giving it a chance. Asking the right questions... +1 Gotta give him some credit. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepay Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 My 13 year-old son loves dubstep, and Skrillex is his favorite artist. Me? Not so much. I like a huge variety of musical styles, but the one constant in all of the artists that I connect with is melody. Whether it's Iron Maiden, the Smiths, or Neil Diamond, as long as a song has a strong melodic presence, I can get into it. Since dubstep is largely rhythmic, I struggle to like it. I have the same problem with certain types of jazz, frankly. That said, some dubstep is growing on me a little because I admire the quality of the production and the synth work. Finally, for what it's worth, I'm definitely turning into an old man. When my son first cranked some dubstep at home, I actually said the words "Turn that crap down! You call that music?" I'm so ashamed.... Noah My son is 11 and he loves Skrillex too. Not his favorite artist, as that award goes to System Of A Down (moving Queen down to #2, and I expect that will continue to drop as he gets older and more into the music of the day), but he does like it. Steve (Stevie Ray) "Do the chickens have large talons?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phred Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Until I saw this post, I had never heard of dubstep. However if a tune is dubstep (or influenced by dubstep) if it has a part that squelches, then I hear that EVERYWHERE. I noticed it maybe last last year, every song seems to have a breakdown or lead feature that squelched, or bass that squelched. That squelchiness is definitely big right now. Here are tunes that I hear it in (tonight I'm Loving You - Enrique Iglesias; LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem), - (NOTE: I have no clue if these are dubstep tunes, or even dubstep inspired, but they have an element that is similar to the other examples listed). NOTE: if I am wrong, and the above tunes have nothing to do with dubstep, is there a term for what style they are? I mean, beyond pop, or top 40, or whatever. I'm just saying', everyone that confuses correlation with causation eventually ends up dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Dubstep is a technology-driven sub-genre that will receive 15 minutes of attention or less prior to morphing into something else. It happened with Heavy Metal, New Wave and Acid Jazz. IMO, sub-genres are the reason music never dies. The "current" generation of musos come up with *new* music using the "technology" of their day to combine elements of the past and present. When musos can no longer adapt and/or innovate, they are losing touch and/or appropos to this thread...out of step. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 NOTE: if I am wrong, and the above tunes have nothing to do with dubstep, is there a term for what style they are? I mean, beyond pop, or top 40, or whatever. Electro. Dubstep and Electro are feeding each other these days, but Electro is a broader term that encompasses more. Party Rock isn't dubstep, but it sure as hell has a lot of Electro happening as does most everything on the RnB/Dance/Top 40 charts these days. Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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