Gary75 Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 ...but is with Elvio who owns and designs KeyB organs. Just getting ready to get the update to the new DSP and various other updates on mine found on the new version and thought I'd pass on the link Elvio sent of some great vids. Man, that Alberto Marsico can swing! http://95.110.199.13/ click jazztv on demand then organ logistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Man, that guy changes allegiances faster than some change their socks. I wonder if it's money or sound or both that motivates him? Someone mentioned he was at NAMM, but I don't remember who he was with. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary75 Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 It would have been with KeyB and I believe Motion Sound. I only found out after checking the clonewheel forum on Yahoo - hardly ever go on it anymore to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fiala Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Apparently, there was a lot of unhappiness with the durability of the Diversi product, early breakage, failure and product return. JDF told me at NAMM that he has been helping to refine the KeyB product for about 2 years. In his opinion, "it's the closest thing to a real B3 on the market". Tom F. "It is what it is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 eeeh - isn't the latest line of Diversi just KeyB organs with another brand name? So then it's not strange that he's seen with both brands, right? Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 He was definitely at NAMM, I have pics of him playing the B-3 at the Hammond-Suzuki booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fiala Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 What I heard at the Motion Sound booth was that the KeyB has its own dedicated DSP system, rather than being a Linux-based computer running software (like the Diversi). Tom F. "It is what it is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary75 Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 The DSP is part of the upgrade, it was Linux. Diversi only used the original sound engine I believe, the actual hardware of the organ is entirely their own. I have not had one bit of bother with mine. If the Italians build their organs as well as their buildings, you have no need to worry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcS Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 My understanding is that Diversi had an agreement to buy a version of the KeyB software and some components from KeyB which they built into their own products for several years. Diversi and KeyB were not joint owners of the technology, Diversi was/is a customer of KeyB. Joey DeFrancesco became a "partner" in some manner with Diversi. That partnership appears to have ended. KeyB has a new software+hardware product and it seems there is a "joint venture" with XP Audio: http://xpaudioinc.com/ which owns Motion Sound to produce and distribute a KeyB line here in the US. Joey DeFrancesco is an endorser of a line of Motion Sound amps. This is just my opinion, but Diversi seems to have a bit of a reputation for talking a good game but not showing up to play. They don't seem to have ever gotten off the dime with a distribution network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Man, that Alberto Marsico can swing!He can also play some serious soul and blues stuff. Beautiful human being too. I had the pleasure of playing his KeyBduo back in October when I was playing in Torino. It's a great instrument. I have to say I like the XK-3c better, but it's a great instrument nonetheless. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Thanks for clearing up the difference between KeyB and Diversi. I didn't see Motion Sound at the show -- were they there? I always enjoy talking with them. Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 click jazztv on demand then organ logistics "Install Microsoft Silverlight." FAIL!!!! Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 He was definitely at NAMM, I have pics of him playing the B-3 at the Hammond-Suzuki booth. He's an education to watch, isn't he? I happened to have the prime viewing angle watching JDF at NAMM2005, I learned a lot watching him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary75 Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hmm Silverlight works on Firefox fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Not if I don't wish to install that MS piece of crap. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innervisions89 Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 MS shared a booth with a number of other product lines. I would assume that they all are under the same distributor (?) JDF's website still proudly proclaims his affiliation with Diversi, and it appears he's been scrubbed clean from Diversi's homepage but not from the video section (at least as of a few days ago; I checked it out after seeing him on the KeyB at the booth where he was featured artist and playing sets every 2 hrs). Smart move on their part; JDF was the only reason I ever knew about Diversi's resurgence and it can't hurt to have that association even with their partnership in the scrap heap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Not if I don't wish to install that MS piece of crap. To be clear: MS in my previous post refers to MicroSloth, NOT to Motion Sound! Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innervisions89 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 No worries; never once heard the words "motion sound" and "crap" in the same sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_3guy Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Man, that guy changes allegiances faster than some change their socks. Sometimes I feel like some of these guys are endorsement whores. Whoever pays them money or the most money gets endorsed. Keith Emerson was somewhat the same. Hopefully I'm wrong. Steve www.seagullphotodesign.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Sometimes I feel like some of these guys are endorsement whores. Whoever pays them money or the most money gets endorsed. Keith Emerson was somewhat the same. Hopefully I'm wrong. nothing wrong with it in my opinion....it's called part of making a living doing music...if companies are willing to pay you to play their gear because they think you'll help them sell it, why not take the gig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_3guy Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 nothing wrong with it in my opinion....it's called part of making a living doing music...if companies are willing to pay you to play their gear because they think you'll help them sell it, why not take the gig? If that was all there was to it, be seen playing their gear - get paid money, that would be fine. But they also are quoted as saying xyz's the best on the market. I find it hard to believe their quotes if last week they were saying the same thing about some other piece of gear & the new endorsement is not new or improved. I call that endorsement whoring. Steve www.seagullphotodesign.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 If that was all there was to it, be seen playing their gear - get paid money, that would be fine. But they also are quoted as saying xyz's the best on the market. I find it hard to believe their quotes if last week they were saying the same thing about some other piece of gear & the new endorsement is not new or improved. I call that endorsement whoring. I don't disagree with you....but again I just think it's part of the business of making a living at music. I don't think you should believe quotes all the time from a musician who's getting free/discounted gear from a company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loving Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 "Best on the market" is so subjective that it even has a good life on these forums. Everybody ends up buying just what appeals to them in the end, even if the stars pitch the gears' qualities to the max. Well, except in my case Oticon hearing aids. I'm sitting in the doctor's office and there is a big poster with a picture of Huey Lewis touting Oticon hearing aids - wearing them. Doctor comes in and asks what I need and I say, "I want what Huey Lewis has there!" "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Joey D was definitely at NAMM. Our own Eric has some pictures up on Facebook of Joey D in the Motion Sound booth playing some type of new "Joey D signature" amp. I'll tell you this, though: If Joey D doesn't lose some weight, he's not going to be with ANYBODY for much longer! He's way too huge. Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 http://www.weblo.com/music/images/artists/thumbnail/Joey_DeFrancesco_48f7196600d45.jpg The cat still play though. I hope he's taking care of himself. I know some big guys that have been checked out by specialists and are fine, outside of the weight. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary75 Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 We shouldn't really be discussing someones health really, Im sure he doesn't need us reminding him. I'd be upset if I came across a thread I didn't know about, discussing how I might die if I didn't shape up. One word "Pavarotti" He lived to a good age and only cancer got him. I'm sure Joey spends time browsing as much as we do, ok maybe not, but you get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I was trying to be positive. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Man, that guy changes allegiances faster than some change their socks. Sometimes I feel like some of these guys are endorsement whores. Whoever pays them money or the most money gets endorsed. Keith Emerson was somewhat the same. Hopefully I'm wrong. Your not wrong it is who will pay them. They don't live the most extravagent lives. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary75 Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 I know Joe, I was referring to NoahZark's comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loving Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 That's an amen on the endorsements. I am sure that many of these primo players have to hustle just as much as many folks. "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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