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I was around Steely Dan's sessions back then and remember when they got asked to leave The Village and they ended up going to Cherokee studios. Cherokee was new then and needed a big artist to use the studio to help attract business. Dan took advantage of that and had a new very expensive monitor system put in that after a couple days said they didn't like and to have it removed. Then Cherokee had just bought a new white Steinway grand piano. Fagen start putting his cigarettes out on the lid of the piano. So Dan was looking for another studio to work in

I remember seeing The Who in concert back in the days they tore up their gear. I twas interesting that the roadies came out and sweep the stage for parts so they reused to build another guitar. What I heard is Pete Townsend the guitars he destroys the bodies made of plywood so they weren't good guitars. Now that night when Keith Moon kicked his drums appart and his bass drum pedal flew up and then bounced on his floor tom out into the audience. The pedal landed in front of the couple next to me and the boyfriend grabbed the pedal, then he told his girlfriend to shove it up her dress. Then Keith Moon's drum roadie came out walking in front of us looking for the pedal. No one said a thing, so that couple ended up with a expensive souvenir of seeing The Who. The weird one was when The Who was on the Smothers Brothers TV show and they were to tear up their gear. Keith Moon was on a high riser so the road crew decided to rig an explosive devices and smoke bomb. So when The Who played on the TV show you see the explosion and Keith Moon flies off backwards from the drum riser. The audience loved it. Ends up Keith Moon actually did get blown off the riser it was only suppose to be a bang and smoke. It did screw up Keith back and the roadie that used too much explosive was fired. Now myself the first band I was in we used to end our shows playing The End by the Doors and knocki our gear around and making as much noise as we could. Somehow we got to play the AfterHours show at the Hullabaloo club in Hollywood. The Hullabaloo had a big revolving stage so one band could be playing while other sets up. We we do our show include tearing our gear up. Our drummer figured it was big gig for us really when crazy and somehow he kicked his drums and they went flying like they exploded. They start to revolve the stage and our mic cords were tangled up in drums and they had to stop rotating the stage and our poor singer had to untangle the mic cables in front of the audience. We look over to the side and see the Stage Manager and he looks really ticked off. Finally stage rotates and the stage manager comes running over we thought we'll never play here again. The stage just yells why the hell did you tell me you were going to do that, it was great!!!! So your not mad. no I want to guys to play again in a couple weeks.

A newer approach is the Akai MPC Key 61 which is like a Ableton, Maschine or Push but has a keyboard too so you have both worlds at your disposal. The video below Derrick runs the band for a church doing similar approach with his Kronos, Montage, and Roland sequencing on those. He does it the all the parts so if a bass player or other musician doesn't show up he can then just punch up that part and keep the music going. He seems to really like the Akai MPC Key 61 from other videos he's done on it.

I had to go to hospital last week for a procedure and they started requiring masks again as soon as you come through the door. Talking to the nurse in recovery she said the number of Covid cases is starting to rise again so that's why the masks.

Well I'd say Vintage Vibe, but they only make kind of keyboard. So to be three I'll go Yamaha and request a YC88, I think it's a U1 their full size upright, and one of their mixers.

They are a modern version of The Section from the 70's which was Russ Kunkel, Lee Sklar, Danny Kortchmar, and Craig Doerge on keyboards.

One of the artists I did sound for a while the singer sang for one of the later versions of Nugents original band the Amboy Dukes. I couldn't believe all the crap he said that band did bouncing around the country in a van. So I have zero respect for Nugent and all his "hey man he plays fast" type fans. After working with the singer I have no doubt his Nugent stories were true.

In the Tech Industry trade shows are shrinking and some even gone. That manufactures are moving to just doing their own events versus competing for attention in a trade show. Now what I'd like to know is the number of small music stores versus the major chains and online. Maybe Covid showed online rollout from companies can reach a bigger audience for less money. I'm just observing how I see the business changing in the internet world.

What I'd do in situations like that was mute the strings and play rhythmic patterns like a percussionist. In fact now playing piano it's something I miss being able to mute notes and play rhythmic patterns. The Jazz guitar legend Herb Elis used to do that, he had a way of slapping his guitar making and playing bongo sounds and rhythms.

Do like the horn players and sneak off the stage and grab another beer.

I played guitar and bass for over 60 years. I worked in a music school for about 10 year. I attended MI which it's main program is guitar. I was recording engineer and most my friends then and now are musicians and a mix of instruments including keyboard players. I never heard of all this crap you guy are talking about with anti keyboard or similar stuff. So this thread is really weird to me make me wonder how much is real and how much is just trying to read something into situations that doesn't exist.

NAMM 2024 is twenty days away and it been crickets from the instrument world and rumour mill. Seems likes that's a bad sign for NAMM and considering trade shows in general have been shrinking or dying off.

One of my favorite movies was Barfly with Mickey Rourke and Faye Dunaway. I'll alter one of the scenes to fit this situation. Dunaway... I hate keyboards players. Rourke... You shouldn't hate anyone it not good. Dunaway... Ok. Keyboard players, I feel so much better when they aren't around.

You only feel bad when your trying to be a real hip cutting edge player and some reviewer calls you a excellent Smooth Jazz artist. <grin>

I never heard it as Smooth Jazz especially then it was just Funky Jazz. Now a days with aging and need to pay bills it's getting to be more Smooth Jazz. But I really hate that term Smooth Jazz.

Heard him many time back then. The music school I worked at was a few mile down the street from the Baked Potato and Tuesday nights had become guitar night in clubs in the Valley so I'd head to the Baked Potato to see Lee Ritenour or Larry Carlton. Lee was there most Tuesdays and always had a great band with Patrice Rushen on keys, Anthony Jackson or Abe Laboriel bass, Harvey Mason drums, Ernie Watts sax and others when in town. Later on Dave or Don Grusin would be playing keys. Also the other way down the street from the school was a restaurant/bar that had another studio guitar ace Pat Kelly and he always had great up and coming studio guys in his band. Then that was a bar I think it was in a bowling alley that one of the guy from Rufus ran a weekly jam at that attracted a lot of hot players. Great time to be a young musician.

Sounds to me like you guys are mixing your use of level and impedance. Most mic's these days are low impedance and low output but a high impedance mic's are still low output like guitar pickups and most musical instruments. High level in general means something is putting out Line Level output like a preamp.

A Twin Reverb would be my choice if younger and could deal with 70 lbs of amp. For keyboards they have the headroom for warm tube tone, the problem is cranking them up enough to get grit they are 80 watts of crazy loud. So I'd probably go with a Deluxe Reverb 22watt and 12" speaker from more bottom.

Being I spent most my life as a guitar and bass player changing preamp tubes is just part of finding your sound. I've put higher gain tubes in bass amps for more bite and lower gain ones in amp I used for Jazz. Tube amps are interesting beasts in tube, transformer, capacitor, and speaker changes and change the personality of the amp. Then the tube added for reverb and vibrato adds a touch of gain. Or like the Deluxe Reverb the Normal channel sounds better at least to me because it doesn't have that "bright" capacitor on the second channel. Many Deluxe Reverb users clip one leg of that capasitor to get rid of the Bright sound. That the nice thing about playing guitar is you find a nice guitar and amp and then you experiment and tweak it to be exactly like you want. Acoustic pianists with $$$ get to do that getting the action changed, but with digital keyboards they are what they are and if you don't like it you buy another brand or model.

Most the tube bass amps traditionally the company takes a guitar amp that had the wattage they wanted then remove reverb and-or tremolo and then change the tone stack to hit frequencies better for bass. Like the old Fender Bassman that is so popular is a Fender Bandmaster changed like I described. Ampeg did the same and others. So really same amp with a slightly different tone stack. Even some SS amps the guitar amp heads they modded the same way.

The last tube amp I had I think would be a good amp for Wurlie. Fender does these Special Run amps now and then and I had a Special Run 65 Princeton reissue with a 12" speaker, it was great sounding amp.

Well it seems your saying lot of keyboard and a LOT of bass so here's one of Scott Storch's famous tracks on keyboard.

I can't imagine wanting a different sound on stage than what FOH is amplifying to the room. Sure in a session you know what your playing is probably going to be changed by the producer, engineer, or artist, but you're a hired gun that what the job is, but live what I'm sending via mic or line should only be tweaked in order to make sure it gets to all corners of the venue.

My Nord S3 mainly use the Studio Grand 2 a very useable sound for recording and live. If I want some phat solo sound on the S3 then the White Grand. Then on my recording computer I have Keyscape and so many great AP and EP sounds to choose from.