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I like the Diggin the Great YouTube and Patreon a lot and he's made a video on AI that I think bring up more musician focus issues. I've put the link below, but have it starting about the 8:15 point to jump over all the AI points that have been discussed here all ready.

That's really sad seeing a family owned business go under.

After working on a music school for about a decade that the school was known for it arranging and composing programming taught my teachers who worked in TV and film and students who went on to work in TV and film and teach composing. So been around a lot of people who work in the background as ghost writers, arrangers, orchestrator, doing media composing. I see these are the people whose jobs will be slowly disappearing to AI music. Being I spent most my life in L.A. and entertainment industry where it seems your neighbor and every third person you meet makes their living in the background of entertainment industry who will be losing jobs.

Is Canada, or some country that is working on legislation on stop or limit to military use only of armed robots. This AI is really picking up speed faster than I expected it to. I know years ago when robotics took over auto industry they were telling displaced worker that the future is either designing robotics or learning how to repair and maintain robotics.

So since I getting back into recording and playing guitar again I went with a buddy to Guitar Center today. For recording I picked up some percussion shakers and such then some picks. Looking around the store has less and less in store and what they have to main lowend gear, but they did have some new $$$ Gibsons. i wanted to check the keybeds out on some Arturia and NI controllers and they no longer have any open and only a couple even on the wall for sale. Other than guitars and amps might as well buy online and have it shipped to the store.

Oh come you know it's a favorite topic for 2024. Adam Neely's made a nice video on AI, the Turing Test, and how it relates to AL music creation. I found it interesting and if you don't your can buy some Tiki torches and storm the castle.

"U Can't Hold No Groove (If You Ain't Got No Pocket)" sayeth The Victor of Wooten So you on a gig who do you want backing up you up someone like Conte who grooves and plays to maketh the song and the band sound good, or someone guilty of musical masterbation to only please themself???

Natalie is doing it again making EDM backing tracks for her classical practice

But if they make AI generated non copyrightable so you're just a data entry person at that point delivering the computers output. The situations you're describing are what professional songwriters and composers have been doing for decades. One of the main qualities of those creators is they can work fast. One person I was friends with working at the music school was a ghost writer for a big name TV score team. Since the TV show didn't want to deal with clearances and such said for scenes where a radio or stereo is on to just write music that sounds like a Top 40 hit. My friend would tell his songwriting students I take more than three to five minute to write one of those tunes I'm losing money, because my main focus is the incidental music for the show. The funny part was the TV show would get contacted by viewers now and then that liked the song they heard in scene such in such asking was record was it. My friend (actually and old Jazz bass player) said I listen some Pop radio every week to hear the type of songs being played and so if someone want a quick Pop I can do it in minutes. So humans have been doing this for decades and I would say more human sounding.

So is AI the modern day version of ghostwriter. I was listening to a podcast that got into how much use of ghostwriters is going on. Then this AI thread and I started thinking they aren't that different they are both being something they aren't.

Remember going to amusement parks and getting a caricature drawing of yourself that's what this AI music sounds like. Someone should tell AI computers.... Grids are for kids. No most this AI stuff is like the 99cent Store (RIP) version of a expensive product. AI amazing now to some, but I think in long run people will want the chaos and imperfections of human made things especially in artistic matters.

That reminded me of class in multi-threaded computer programming I took AGES ago. In the end the instructor said.... Programming with threads is like cooking with salt, I little can really enhance an dish, too much can ruin the whole meal. You could just replace "Programming in threads" with "using autotune" and it really sums it up. I view autotune the same as I do quantization and that is perfect is boring.

Awhile back the biggest subscriber channels on YT were gaming and gaming tech channels since then things spread out more. Below is the Wiki page on top 50 site and country of origin the top site 263 million subscribers then Mr Beast just under that is biggest in the USA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouTube_channels

But isn't that a constant going back forever. Some music become popular, people imitate it to make a buck, then people complain about it's over use.

No, not Al DiMeola s much old Jazz guitarist. Because of other crap he's done after losing his first online school I really don't want to say his name. Funny though he had to guest Jazz guitarist do a few lessons on his school. The one was really great and I later started taking lesson with them and studied with them for over five years. So I guess I shouldn't be so mad at him. <grin>

I would agree that RB is living out his life's dreams with the people he's been interviewing lately, because they are really not the big draws of his target demographic. RB's strength is he's mastered YouTube marketing and monetization in what he creates for his target audience, he's even mentored others on how to build up their YouTube channels. A lot of approaches he uses are similar to a big name Jazz guitarist who was on the early money maker teaching online. He knew what to say to draw in a similar demographic as to who RB targets. That why I see what RB is up to. I liked RB early on, but then started noticing him changing his approach to same at the Jazz guitarist I mentioned and that's when I losing interest in RB and don't don't watch much of his YT's anymore. RB reminds me of the old days of late night TV and the infomercials selling Ginsu knives and food choppers it all marketing game playing.

My change in direction (age catching up with me) to recording focus doing Beats and simple songs I was interested in the Astrolab but same hesitations as you especially for Beats. So was thinking maybe controller and library, but now digging down more into the Akai MPC Key 37 or 61 I seeing that is what that will fit my needs best connecting to my laptop and Ableton. I think the AstroLab next generation probably will bring the missing features and a larger screen. They might of been better to make the AstroLad a module to run from controller.

Back in my recording day I worked on a Elton John horn overdub session for the album Caribou. It was Elton's producer Gus Dudgeon, Greg Adams and TOP horns, the engineer and I was assisting, the mic setup and mic selection was all mine, my big claim to fame. Gus and TOP hadn't worked together before so both sniffing each other out. We started with the tune The Bitch is Back. TOP did a few takes so Gus could check out the arrangement, Greg Adams was still writing when he got to the studio. Then they started to do some takes and Gus kept stopping them and starting over. TOP was not happy so Gus started getting more specific like... bar 5 beat 3 trumpet quarter tone off. Now TOP was ticked off so Gus said come into the control room and take a listen. They come in and are in front of the console listening and then look at each other and say he's right, dam he's got ears. Suddenly TOP respected Gus and was into it. Gus told them The Bitch is Back is going to be the hit record on the album so I want it perfect. They ended up taking the rest of the day to get perfect horns on the Bitch is Back. After that we took a dinner break after dinner in a few hours they put horns on all the other tunes that had horns and even did some organ overdubs. So have to be careful some engineer/producers do have amazing ears. Another fun part of that session is Linda Ronstadt and Peter Asher came later to hang out. Ronstadt started flirting with Doc from TOP on if they could play Country horns. Ronstadt found out quick flirting with horn players was not a good thing to do. Next thing I saw was Linda back on the other side of the control room by Peter Asher trying to stay as far away from Doc as she could. <grin> That session was a lot of fun.

Many are using it for an effect now since T-Pain and I've grow real tired of even the effect. Even when it subtle it obvious.

Someone needs to make a time machine so we can go back in time and stop Cher from recording Believe.

The lineup includes Robert Sput Searight, MonoNeon, and the recently passed Casey Benjamin.

That one hurts for me I remember the Duane and Greg back to their band Hourglass and when the Allman Brother came out I was an instant fan. Then after Duane passed became equally big fan of Dickey Betts. Thanks for all your music you shared with us Dickey RIP.

Been putting together a small recording setup with my laptop and Ableton and think I decided on getting a Akai MPE Key 37 as my other piece of the puzzle. Other item for my wishlist is a good general purpose condenser mic not too expensive and thinking of the Austrian Audio OC16.

Warning no keyboard content, it shouldn't matter but in case it might. GREAT IMO interview with Joe Gore talking about recording with on of my heros Tom Waits and how he gets great musicians to sound amateur and works fast in the studio some very cool insight. The starting about the 28 minute mark in the video they take an off ramp into harmony, Joe who have a classical background gets into how he view the tonality and relating it to 14 century music. I started watching this interview and thought I'd just check out a bit and leave, but it held me spellbound till the end. Part of what got me is over my years playing two the funkiest writers I got to play with later on it came out they had Phd in classical music. Made me remember my young days and music school they would tell us.... If you're auditioning for Rock, Funk, or Pop gigs never mention your music education, it will immediately be two strikes against you. People think if you studied music you can't Rock or get Funky don't say anything until after you have the gig and been working.