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#2547085 - 11/27/13 09:23 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: mate stubb]
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Brilliant!

Assembly time?

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#2547088 - 11/27/13 09:28 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Dglavko]
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Maybe 3-4 minutes to assemble the stand. The whole rig can go up in 10-15 minutes. I could do better than that with some custom jack panels in the rack.
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#2547135 - 11/27/13 11:52 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: mate stubb]
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Originally Posted By: mate_stubb
Maybe 3-4 minutes to assemble the stand. The whole rig can go up in 10-15 minutes. I could do better than that with some custom jack panels in the rack.


Moe,

Making the jack panel for my rack saved lots of time and headaches at setup. Somewhere around here there's some pics.
I got everything from Redco: pre punched single space panel, 1/4", XLR, MIDI jacks, and custom engraved jack labels.
That and the snake I had them make me turned wiring up a 30 second affair.
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#2547137 - 11/27/13 12:01 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: EscapeRocks]
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Or...you could hardwire your snake to the rack (bind it after connection to rack is made to the side rails), and then roll the snake up INTO the rack for transport.

That's what I do.
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#2547161 - 11/27/13 01:06 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Tonysounds]
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Originally Posted By: tonysounds
Or...you could hardwire your snake to the rack (bind it after connection to rack is made to the side rails), and then roll the snake up INTO the rack for transport.

That's what I do.


This-ish^^^^^
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#2547202 - 11/27/13 02:48 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Losendoskeys]
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I have some very nice, very expensive Elco connectors that I am not using. They would make an excellent snake termination at the rack.
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#2547723 - 11/29/13 03:14 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: mate stubb]
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My collapsable B3 facade project. The legs pull out in seconds and I can carry the upper section by myself. When the stage size allows, this gives my SK2 a "classic" look. I used my 1957 B3 as a model and adjusted the size. I gave the finish a distressed look. I can make these furniture grade or in colors. Lid lifts to access the back connection of the SK.

[img:center]http://
B Cab Empty by keyzn6, on Flickr[/img] [img:center]http://
B Cab WIth SK2 by keyzn6, on Flickr[/img] [img:center]http://
B Cab Ready For Transport by keyzn6, on Flickr[/img] [img:center]http://
B Cab Lid Open 2 by keyzn6, on Flickr[/img]

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#2547735 - 11/29/13 04:34 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Joe Tee]
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Very nice!
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#2554004 - 12/22/13 11:50 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: mate stubb]
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Had a breakdown of my old modified(to hold an iPad as well as keys) Proel stand at yesterdays gig. I do have a K&M Spider (single) but I really had no way to mount an iPad to it, so it was left to gather dust in the corner..but the breakdown caused me to re-try a solution.

I also have a Hercules iPad holder that attaches to a mic stand, but being basically lazy when it comes to setup/breakdown I abhor having to much to lug, so I never used it either really.

However the Hercules also comes with a deskmount stand and with some out of the square thinking, I came up with a solution to mount the iPad to the K&M in what I reckon is a pretty neat and tidy config...pictures follow:

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#2555783 - 12/29/13 06:45 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: miden]
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Update!
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#2557872 - 01/04/14 12:29 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Losendoskeys]
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And now from the audience POV:
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#2557886 - 01/04/14 12:59 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Joe Tee]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Tee
My collapsable B3 facade project[/url]

That is nice! thu
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#2560462 - 01/11/14 01:59 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Michael Wright]
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There is a ton of unused space on my VR700. I had a clear picture of how I could use it and house most of the gear I need at an arms reach. This is why I really felt the Korg Microstation would make a nice sonic and logistic addition to my rig. Here is what I did.

Step 1. Cut down 2 metal cloths hangers.


Step 2. Bend to size and fasten to existing music stand mounts



Step 3. Affix a bit of duct tap to protect hood of board and a bit more just to make sure nothing moves


Step 4. Place microstation on racks



Still enough space on left side for a minivent and an Ipad on the right! lol


Edited by High Diving Act (01/11/14 09:41 PM)
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#2560659 - 01/12/14 12:07 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: High Diving Act]
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Guys, I've been watching this thread for months and love every bit of it. So many cool and very creative ideas here.

Bob

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#2560661 - 01/12/14 12:10 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Jazzmammal]
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I'll be honest , I don't like that coat hanger wire idea at all.

Brett

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#2560678 - 01/12/14 01:12 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Brettymike]
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Lol.. It's not for the faint of heart. I am actually a project manager for a metal fabrication and plastic injection molding facility. I was actually going to construct something much more rigid... But it would be heavier and frankly overkill for a board as lightweight as the microstation. I thought I would take a more minimalistic and lightweight approach first. I created something similar for my vk8m which worked perfectly for years.. My contraption is virtually invisible on stage. I've been pounding on the keys for 2 days now.. Thing is solid. The only thing I may add is a bit of Velcro to the front of the microstation.

Originally Posted By: Brettymike
I'll be honest , I don't like that coat hanger wire idea at all.

Brett
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#2560752 - 01/12/14 06:40 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: High Diving Act]
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I bought a Stukture Aluminium stand..you know, the ones that
dont actually go low enough to sit n play?
I was actually able to drill a hole in it without blowing the thing up.
Perfect sitting height n a joy to carry around.

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#2566038 - 01/27/14 04:58 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: ADino]
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Someone posted this the PX-5S group.. thought it was worth a share..




http://www.core77.com/blog/furniture_des...wilco_25195.asp

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#2587320 - 04/07/14 02:46 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Dglavko]
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After the comment by Dglavko and inspired by Moe and all the other talented stand builders on the forum, I consulted my local plumbers merchant with a view to designing and building a three tier stand from ABS plastic piping.
After much measuring I constructed two stepped side frames made from pipes cut to size and using 90 degree angle and tee joints.
Three crossbars of pipe joined the sides together but although fine for the weight support, there was too much side flexing so I replaced the crosspipes with flat aluminium bars.The stand is now rigid in all directions and very light.Some antislip matting and a bit of padding brings everything into line and after eight gigs everything is still rock solid and my boards are in perfect position for me.

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#2587343 - 04/07/14 03:52 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: ballatman]
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What are the notches for in the aluminum X braces?
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#2587451 - 04/08/14 03:49 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: mate stubb]
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The notches on the crossbars locate into the bolts on the opposite upright pipe for transporting the stand.
The bottom bolts of the crossbars are through holes in the bar and fixed permanently to the uprights by nyloc nuts. The top of the bar is a notch or slot which slides onto the top bolt.
(see pics)
I originally had the front spars done this way too but had to give up on that as there was not enough knee room so I had to relocate the bottom bolts to the middle upright instead of the front one, so these now detach completely. Hope this answers your question.

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#2587509 - 04/08/14 07:11 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: ballatman]
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Sturdy?
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#2587511 - 04/08/14 07:11 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: ballatman]
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Looks good! You might consider painting those cross braces black so that they will disappear more on stage.
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#2587606 - 04/08/14 10:49 AM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: mate stubb]
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Very sturdy rickzjamm, in every direction.

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Thanks Moe.
I had mentioned to our guitarist last gig that I might paint them but he says he likes them silver and as he gets the gigs
maybe I'll leave them. LoL!



Edited by ballatman (04/08/14 10:51 AM)

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#2587629 - 04/08/14 12:18 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Baldwin Funster]
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Originally Posted By: Kas
I guess you wont be tweaking the Nords controls mid song.

I guess now that this thread is alive again it's time for an update.

I bought a pair of the slide bearings that Daddyg3042 recommended and they're quite nice. Each bearing is a steel U-channel and has three "cars" that ride inside the U-channel using continuous bearings. Made in Japan, they used really high quality steel with very little play or slop and very smooth action. So I busted out the MIG and welded up a new set of second tier supports. I used a cutoff wheel to shorten the channel length, and I'm using two "cars" per channel, with a narrow strip of 16ga steel bridged between the cars. This is what the keyboard sits on. I thought I might need Velcro but I've been getting by with just some 3M silicone rubber "bumpon" feet for traction. I also thought I may need to mung up the track to create some additional friction in the slid-in position, but that hasn't really been an issue either. I've had to modify my organ technique only slightly to keep from pushing the upper board away from me while playing it. As you can hopefully see in the photos, the only Stage 2 controls that are obscured right now are the organ draw buttons (not an issue because when using this setup I'm using the SK-1 for organs), and some of the effect controls.

While I was at it, I also welded up a thing to hold the iPad and have switched over to using OnSong. So now I have no music stand or mic stand, everything attaches to the keyboard stand.

I'm happy enough with the concept that I've ordered up some more slide bearings and when I get some free time will fabricate a set that support the upper keyboard from above the sides instead of underneath the bottom. I think I should be able to set it up such that I'll have easy access to all the controls.

upper keyboard slid forward:


upper keyboard slid back:


reverse angle shot.


and a vid:

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#2587633 - 04/08/14 12:42 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: OB Dave]
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OB Dave,looks like your usual meticulous work on the stand,but please clue us in about that fascinating looking baby Leslie. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is highly intrigued by it. If you are worried about hijacking this thread you could start another one telling us about this very cool looking box. Thanks.

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#2587685 - 04/08/14 03:45 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: Pa Gherkin]
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Ha, well the baby Leslie was built for me in 2002 by David Tarantolo in Metarie LA. He calls it the Spin Doctor and it's serial number 001. Dunno how many he's made. I've never seen another one like it. It uses a stock 147 amp, upper rotor and horn driver. The lower driver is a 12 instead of a 15, and I'm not sure where he sourced the lower rotor from. I was skeptical about the 12 but speaker technology has come a long way since the 1950s and this 12 puts out plenty of low end, at least as much as my 145s. The cabinet is 26" x 24" x 19" and has an integrated luggage-style retracting handle and wheels, and fits easily in the back of a Prius.

The motors are old single-speed motors with a Hamptone two-speed conversion kit. I have a couple extra two-speed motor stacks, but they won't fit in the cabinet. At one point I was going to repackage the guts of the Speakeasy preamp to fit inside the cabinet and that was too tight a squeeze also. I even designed a circuit board to switch Leslie speeds via MIDI or footpedal before abandoning the project. But I did manage to mount some Sennheiser e604 drum mics to the inside, which speeds up setup and teardown a bit.

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#2587694 - 04/08/14 04:07 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: OB Dave]
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There were some leslies with 12" woofers and rotors that were built into certain organs. They ran full range. I've got one of those rotors in my basement and will probably build a tiny leslie like that some day.
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#2587759 - 04/08/14 09:25 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: mate stubb]
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Oh that's true. My first Leslie was an 825 - it was an awful thing. Solid state amp, and one 12" full range driver firing into a styrofoam rotor. Now that you mention it, I think this rotor may have come out of some home organ with an internal Leslie.

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#2592171 - 04/24/14 10:42 PM Re: The stand construction thread [Re: OB Dave]
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I've reconfigured my stand for the "minimal acceptable rig." The mixer and Vent will mount on a small board or in a small box to eliminate the rack. I should be able to get it down to 2 carry trips or 1 dolly trip.





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