WestHarp Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hi! Bösendorfer is about to release a new stage piano: the CEUSmaster. Here are some pictures (sorry, but the text is in german): http://www.boesendorfer.com/robbie/index.html The "holy grail" of stage pianos? Who knows...but the price will be ca. EUR 25000 ($ 32800). It HAS to be perfect for that... CU André Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I guess the action is fantastic. From the dimensions of the instrument, I guess they put some kind of real grand piano action into it. I don't have 25000 Euro in my pocket, nor a couple of roadies. But if the sound is very high-quality, what about a rack version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I won't touch it until its a software sample that I can d/l for free : D Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogwall Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Originally posted by Andre Westarp: The "holy grail" of stage pianos? Who knows...but the price will be ca. EUR 25000 ($ 32800). It HAS to be perfect for that...Only 88 keys? Scandal! Anyway, thanks for the update. I would love to hear and play that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yannis D Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 BTW, i just listened to Egberto Gismonti's solo piano album entitled "Alma" where this prodigy plays a Bosendorfer grand - what a huge sound (especially the bass notes!) on the hands of such a monster! Be grateful for what you've got - a Nord, a laptop and two hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 From the way I see the guys lifting the thing on the pic, it must weight way over 100 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gallant Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Just played one at NAMM. Price aside, wow... it indeed has a real Bosendorfer action, and it feels great. Michael Gallant, Associate Editor Keyboard Magazine More people pay for Keyboard magazine than any other music-tech magazine. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I wish there were more of these types of pianos to choose from. I'm not 100 percent sure but I believe the Yamaha GranTouch goes for about 7000 Euros. Twenty-five thousand Euros seems like an awful amount of money. What can an action cost? I would love to try one and if I did fall in love with it, I'd trade in my GranTouch. I've written a letter to Steinway asking them to develope such a piano but my letter went unanswered. Actually Renner makes the actions for Steinway, I wonder who makes the actions for Bosendorfer? No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I clicked on the link but it must be in Spanish or something because I couldn't read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Very intriguing. Doesn't look extremely portable though. I guess the connections, volume, knobs, etc. are in the back, or inside. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Very intriguing. Doesn't look extremely portable though. I guess the connections, volume, knobs, etc. are in the back, or inside. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Sorry 'bout dat! (2xpost) CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I asked the Renner USA guy one time about a replacement action for my Steinway B. I believe he told me about $2,000. Now it's in a kit form and requires extensive time on the technician's part to put it all together. And I don't believe that's the actual keys, rather the mechanical parts of the action. Still, that's the least efficient and most costly way of putting an action together. Obviously a factory can build an action much more efficiently and cost effective. The price is hilarious. It's obviously a build-to-order operation. For the Elton Johns of the world I suppose. Where is the stand and pedals? Are you supposed to put this on an X-stand and attach the Fatar three pedal? I mean that's an important aspect of a true piano controller. Maybe the stand and pedals are extra!! I have a Yamaha G2 MIDI Grand which cost half of this but it's a real piano and probably 80% of the cost is related to things the Bosendorfer doesn't have. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Oh, by the way, Renner makes the actions for Steinway Germany not USA. The Steinways out of New York have Steinway actions. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I'm fairly certain Bosendorfer makes their own unique, patented action. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I have a Steinway B too, bought new in 1997. I'm glad to know they have an action kit - my technician didn't tell me that. But I hope I won't ever have to replace the action. Something tells me they have a LOT to do before this CEUS is street ready. Bosendorfer makes what - 400 pianos or so a year? So maybe they'll make 100 or so of these. Still, it'll be very interesting to see how this turns out. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I might be wrong, but I don't think your going to find one of these at your local Bosendorfer dealer any time soon. The next time your tour takes you by the factory, you can stop in. Short of that you'll probably need to book a flight to Vienna. Off the bat I'd say that road case isn't close to being up to snuff. The function of a road case is not just to protect an instrument from getting banged up on the outside but also to absorb the vibrations from transportation. The thin pieces of foam here and there aren't going to absorb much of anything. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Originally posted by burningbusch: Off the bat I'd say that road case isn't close to being up to snuff. The function of a road case is not just to protect an instrument from getting banged up on the outside but also to absorb the vibrations from transportation. The thin pieces of foam here and there aren't going to absorb much of anything. Busch. Have you ever seen a nine footer moved? They just wrap a few moving blankets to protect the finish and strap it to the inside wall of a moving truck. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 That's true about piano moving. But then the piano has to recover, be re-tuned and adjust to its new environment - like a patient recovering from surgery. Piano moves are far less frequent - with stage keyboards being moved all the time, the CEUS would be like an infant in intensive care. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 That's true about piano moving. But then the piano has to recover, be re-tuned and adjust to its new environment - like a patient recovering from surgery. Piano moves are far less frequent - with stage keyboards being moved all the time, the CEUS would be like an infant in intensive care. I play in hotels all the time and their pianos get moved all the time from one room to the next. I think most of us play on pianos that do not have health insurance. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I understand your point Dave, but this thing is being marketed to, it seems to me, touring artists. That means extensive moving, semi trailers, commercial airlines, etc. often outside of loving hands. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Just seen this advertised in the 03/07 issue. Nice. MAN GAS GAS GAS. MY Toys - Kurzweil PC1X, Roland A-90, Yamaha KX88, Yamaha CS1x, Novation 49SL MkII, Presonus Studiolive 16.4.2, JBL PRX615M My Music Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Did you read about the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYKeys Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 ($tba) THE BEST NAMM SHOW IN YEARS PAGE 24 The picture in the link posted above has a better finish MY Toys - Kurzweil PC1X, Roland A-90, Yamaha KX88, Yamaha CS1x, Novation 49SL MkII, Presonus Studiolive 16.4.2, JBL PRX615M My Music Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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