wineandkeyz Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Here’s how country artist Ward Davis handles it. 1 Quote Live: Yamaha S70XS (#1); Roland Jupiter-80; Mackie 1202VLZ4; IEMs or Traynor K4 Home: Hammond SK Pro 73; Moog Minimoog Voyager Electric Blue; Yamaha S70XS (#2); Roland Integra-7; Wurlitzer 200A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Ampy0o Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 17 hours ago, bill5 said: You really don't want me on that soapbox. But welcome to modern America...we've been trending that way more and more for decades and all those village idiots out there don't get the many many reasons why it's a bad thing. Such parents aren't just painfully stupid, but selfish, cowardly, and should have been neutered in their pre-teens. ugh. I got on, sorry. Just so (so) sick of it. You left out “feel entitled’ which also applies to how people handle, mishandle, coddle or neglect their pets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Ampy0o Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, MathOfInsects said: Nudging this toward advice....what solutions have people come up with for the inevitable situation of kids/drunks/douchebros thinking that the stuff is there to touch and use? What language have you found works? We can't threaten to clobber everyone. What's a safer, more effective approach that people have found? Designate a rotation list of who stays behind to guard the stage at break time. If you really want to get the point across get a hat that says “Stage Police.” People will forget you are in the band if you are concerned about maintaining the mystique of being part of the band. Keep everyone away like bouncers do. You don’t have to be aggressive, just assertive and clear. In some cases you could go so far as to have tape on the ground or small signs which have written or printed “Band members only beyond this point” or something to that effect. You could even use rope or that yellow tape used at crime scenes. It comes in different forms not designated “Crime Scene.” Of course these suggestions will not fit every situation. Edit: just saw “WARNING DON’T TOUCH MY SHIT!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I’d start with structural interventions. Maybe place a cover over the keyboards or some signage? Edit: Just saw that sign too. Quote "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfloydcramer Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Don’t count your gigs before they’re hatched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill5 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 12:21 PM, TommyRude said: What if it was Lady Gaga? Or Dwane Johnson? Child's play. Just make sure you let Will Smith do whatever he wants. Reading all this makes me glad I never got into gigging. On 4/2/2023 at 1:59 PM, MathOfInsects said: Nudging this toward advice....what solutions have people come up with for the inevitable situation of kids/drunks/douchebros thinking that the stuff is there to touch and use? What language have you found works? We can't threaten to clobber everyone. What's a safer, more effective approach that people have found? Pepper spray? Oh how about if he (I think it's safe to say it's mostly guys) is married or has a girl with him, go "how would you like it if I went over there and felt her up? Would you be cool with that? No? Now you know how I feel, dipsh##." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aronnelson Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 My favorite one - most likely the music you love when you were young and put all your effort to, will not be the music that is popular when you grow up. For example, you will not make a living playing FUSION!!!!! Secondly, as bad as it seems, the less complicated the music is, the more likely that it will be more popular and make you money. Both assume that you are trying to make a living being a musician. If you don't care about audiences and making money, play fusion, play fast, and stick those chords in there! LOL Oh and if you want to make a living playing music, play the music that is local to your area. Sounds obvious.... but.... Sorry guys.... Quote Korg Kronos, Roland RD-88, Korg Kross, JP8000, MS2000, Sequential Pro One, Micromoog, Yamaha VL1, author of unrealBook for iPad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aronnelson Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 2:29 PM, miden said: Wished I'd of learned guitar instead No, then you would have twice the amount of equipment! Why do I need so many guitars????? Quote Korg Kronos, Roland RD-88, Korg Kross, JP8000, MS2000, Sequential Pro One, Micromoog, Yamaha VL1, author of unrealBook for iPad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miden Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, aronnelson said: No, then you would have twice the amount of equipment! Why do I need so many guitars????? hahaha!!! Quote There is no luck - luck is simply the confluence of circumstance and co-incidence... Time is the final arbiter for all things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyRude Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, bill5 said: Pepper spray? If anyone actually does this to stop folks from tinkling on their equipment, please make arrangements to catch this on video, as it will represent both the apex and the nadir of keyboard hijinx, and will also make good viewing. Quote Some music I've recorded and played over the years with a few different bands Tommy Rude Soundcloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill5 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 I was mostly kidding for the record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Tatum Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 4:54 AM, JamPro said: The Hav-a-Hart traps work well for me. I set it out every night baited with a dab of peanut butter on the corner of a cracker. I leave one door shut, and one open so the rodent has to enter at one end - the PB'ed cracker sits at the other end beyond the trip bar. If there are rodents around, they will get caught. I have to drive them far away to release them. If I let them go in the neighbor's yard, they just come back to my house. I wouldn't release a rodent, no matter how far away. You're just transferring the problem to someone else. Rodents are horrible carriers of disease, and don't belong around humans. Kill the f***ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill5 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Floyd Tatum said: Rodents are horrible carriers of disease Ever heard of covid? Humans. Kill the f***ers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Don’t scoot your ass over too far to one side of a X frame bench and fall off a 4 foot stage onto a concrete floor. 2 Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Oh … don’t mistake dehydration and the symptoms of on coming heat stroke with some weird unexplainable nerves and stage fright. Yep did that once too. Thought I was going to die at a street dance in BFE USA. 1 Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Your best long term gear investment is not your keyboard, it is your sound system. Keyboards come and go but good headphones, studio monitors or stage amps can last 20 years or more. 3 Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBarker Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 This has already been stated, but do anything to make your setup and breakdown faster, simpler, and cleaner. make snakes. Heatshrink any adaptors, get good cable ties (I’ve been loving bungie ones). Have a duplicates of all cables and minor gear at your practice space, house, and gig bag. A few hundred bucks can save a lot of time, mix-ups, and confusion. 2 Quote Puck Funk! Equipment: Laptop running lots of nerdy software, some keyboards, noise makersâ¦yada yada yadaâ¦maybe a cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Color coded tape can do wonders to aid in quick setup, especially if roadies or anyone else is helping. When, as a keyboardist, you have the biggest most complicated setup on stage you will always get help if the band is rushing to set up quick. I had a color for each keyboard. I would wrap each end of the audio cable with that color, cut a little piece to mark the correct output on the keyboard, and one to mark the input on the mixer. No more reading labels for 12 different jacks on the back of a keyboard. Match color to color on keyboard and mixer and your setup is the same every time. You can carry it further by marking sustain and CV pedals the same way. 1 Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonglow Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Don’t forget to load your keyboards in the truck before arriving at the gig. Yes, you read that correctly. Quote "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Practice your rig set up until you can do it under pressure, in half the time you were told you'd have, and with little to no lighting. Normal human nature means under stress and duress, our responses devolve to our practiced routines. So practice setting up and tearing down, over and over again, in your garage or living room, until it becomes rote. I did this until I could set up in less than 15 minutes without having to invest a ton of mental focus. In the real world, I typically show up with plenty of time to leisurely set up with little pressure or stress. But there have been times when unexpected traffic interfered. Or I found a less-than-ideal stage environment. Or the wedding planner switched us up at the last minute. Or the stage lights had to be dark for the entire load in. Or.....you get the idea. 2 Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Don't skimp on cables. Buy quality, or learn how to solder well. Once you have quality cables, treat them well, coil them yourself, and realize the majority of rig failures are 1) human error, or 2) relatively simple failures like cable connection stress, or similar. When eventually you have a cable failure (intermittent, or scratchy, or similar), IMMEDIATELY quarantine the offender and remove from the gene pool until repaired or disposed of. Being the one guy on stage who has chronic cable failures (usually, trying to use the same bad cable hoping for it to work) just screams, "I'm not a professional". Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 I used to play a 3 or 4 keyboard setup. Played a job at a YWCA with bad power and only one keyboard would work, so, be prepared to play without your favorite, must have keyboard. Played a three set gig with the middle set scheduled to be live on the radio. My amp went out at the end of the first set. I had no backup. The singers refused to allow my keyboards to be routed through the stage monitors. I played the entire radio set without hearing a note, and pulled it off. So ... ... ... practice until you can play your sets without hearing them, and, a set of headphones can be a valuable backup in an emergency. 2 Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, RABid said: I used to play a 3 or 4 keyboard setup. Played a job at a YWCA with bad power and only one keyboard would work, so, be prepared to play without your favorite, must have keyboard. Played an outdoor summer festival in 125 degree. There was supposed to be shade over entire stage, and there was...until the sun shifted with the afternoon when our set was scheduled. Was playing a MainStage rig...the heat shut the laptop down entirely. Thankfully my controller was my Kawai digital piano...so the entire gig was piano only rather than all the splits, players, and elaborate stuff I had set up in the heat-bricked laptop. That was, incidentally, the last time I tried to use a laptop-based rig...I've been hardware-only ever since. Quote .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I played an outdoor poolside hotel gig in the heat of an August day. The direct sun caused the plastic covering the button panel of my Chroma to start bubbling. That was the last daytime outdoor gig I agreed to. Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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