stoken6 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I'm fortunate to be subbing with a one-guitar band, who play Hotel California - I get to play the 12-string acoustic intro on keys, and play the lower harmony part in the solo. I've got the basic broken-chord pattern (5:38) down without problems, but the two bars leading up to that (at 5:25 or so) are more difficult to pick out. I could probably bluff something, but like the OP in the "I want you back" thread, I want to get it right. Does anyone have anything that could help me work out specifically the lower harmony part? Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montunoman 2 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Man, I'd love to find a real transcription of that solo (not TAB) I've been faking it for years! For some weird reason, it's a hard one (for me) to blow over. I end just outlining/arpeggio the chords.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 I think it's like the solo in Sultans of Swing and many others - it's got to be the original, it's part of the composition. Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconoclast Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Sorry, I have nothing that can help you out except to say that I've done this exact part on keys and it works out pretty good. T The 12 string intro part on keys sounds surprisingly natural and is actually kind of fun to play. The guitar solo harmonies are OK but if your guitar player bends at all you sound out of place. Unless you have them perfect I'd consider just leaving them out. I think few listeners will find their absence disagreeable. If you search youtube for the guitar solo tutorial there will be a million of them, only on guitar, but that should be enough to get you there. Quote You want me to start this song too slow or too fast? Forte7, Nord Stage 3, XK3c, OB-6, Arturia Collection, Mainstage, MotionSound KBR3D. A bunch of MusicMan Guitars, Line6 stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Check your messages. 👍 1 Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan May Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Boy, I wish Don Felder was here so he could help you arrange Hotel California to play with your band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 First, you have to know if the guitar player is playing the part correctly... 2 1 Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Ampy0o Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 This is definitely one of those cases that has to be done the way the original musician(s) does it, either the original studio recording or live. No outsider can step in and improvise plausibly. You will be seen as sub-par. And in this case The Eagles are perfectionists live and don't cut themselves slack. It is like Roger Waters performing without David Gilmour. Dave Kilminster nails it so close. Any less and you would feel the void and worse you would feel it is being done wrong. He does Gilmour's studio leads better than Gilmour, who seems so bored he gets lost petforming them live. But it's Gilmour and even unstructured it sounds like it's Gilmour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamanzarek Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Don Felder is not here but he is on YouTube. One detail he mentions is that the 12 string was run through a Leslie and miked in stereo. He shows most of the parts here but is transposed down a step. Quote Gibson G101, Fender Rhodes Piano Bass, Vox Continental, RMI Electra-Piano and Harpsichord 300A, Hammond M102A, Hohner Combo Pianet, OB8, Matrix 12, Jupiter 6, Prophet 5 rev. 2, Pro-One, CS70M, CP35, PX-5S, WK-3800, Stage 3 Compact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I'll just mention that the harmony lead parts have many parts where both guitars are stretching from one note to another together. Some of those bends are ascending, some are descending. Don Felder and Joe Walsh are both masterful guitarists. If you don't get all of those right it will never sound right. The Eagles spent a year or so recording that song. I don't care for it personally but it is super popular still so being able to play it should be viable for years to come. 1 Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 These guys do it note-for-note: 2 2 Quote "The Angels of Libra are in the European vanguard of the [retro soul] movement" (Bill Buckley, Soul and Jazz and Funk) The Drawbars | off jazz organ trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJkeys Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 When I was learning the lower guitar part on keys, I used Transcribe by seventh string software. It is inexpensive and a lifetime license. It allows you to slow down the track (without changing the pitch), eq it so you can emphasize the part you need to hear, and loop it to repeat. Fantastic software for learning difficult parts. https://www.seventhstring.com/ -dj 1 Quote iMac i7 13.5.2 Studio One 5.5.2 Nord Stage 3 Nord Wave 2 Nektar T4 Drawmer DL 241 Focusrite ISA Two Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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