EscapeRocks Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Best laid plans of mice and men. Just as I was putting the finishing touches on my 'older keys new rig' rig, my trustworthy PX-5S followed Carolann into the light. I had been having some scratchy sounds coming out of the audio outs. As much as I used it outside, I figured a good cleaning was needed. That was a few weeks ago. After cleaning and some de-oxit, everything was good. Until this afternoon. Plugged it in and: no sound. Not even from the headphone outs. I ran thru every menu and every zone to make sure audio gen was on, local was not off, etc. I reset the board to factory. Then reinstalled the latest firmware. Nothing. So I pulled the top panel and got out the multi meter. I was getting no continuity on some of the pcb traces. I think the boards may be 'blown' Truth be told, this is no reflection on Casio at all. The fact I absolutely beat the crap out of the board, taken it apart and reassembled numerous times, baked it in the sun in Texas summer gigs for almost 7 years now, I know I got my money"s worth I"ve dropped it, had liquid spilled in it, and yet not once the the 'plastic' shell ever warp or break. It was a good run and I wouldn"t hesitate to buy it again, albeit in an updated version ð (expression, touch screen). In a bit I"m going to post how and with what I"m replacing it. Side note, my 16 year old PX 350 that I gave to my brother years ago for his kids is still going strong. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BbAltered Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I have a Casio Previa keyboard I got in 2005 when I moved to NYC. It is a great "apartment" piano: onboard speakers, small footprint, decent key feel, reasonable piano sounds, headphone outs. I used that board every day for practice and gigged with it as well At one time I gave it away to a friend who said they wanted to learn to play. After a while it came back - completely functional! I still have it, and use it on small quick "jazz" gigs. So I second what EscapeRocks says about the longevity and toughness of Casio pianos. And I recommend Casio DPs to anyone looking for a mid-priced decent keyboard. Sorry to hear about your keyboard ER - enjoy your new one. Quote J.S. Bach Well Tempered Klavier The collected works of Scott Joplin Ray Charles Genius plus Soul Charlie Parker Omnibook Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key of Life Weather Report Mr. Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Glad it didn"t happen on the job. Quote "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickzjamm Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 You got some good mileage out of that board, Casio's are tough but not forever. ;-) Quote You don't know you're in the dark until you're in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 7 years hard gigging out of what is a relatively budget-priced board is a good investment in anyone's book. On the plus side - we get to look forward to seeing what you choose to replace it... Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Or buy the upcoming replacement Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Agreed on 5S love. My right audio jack is failing, so I have moved over to a TRS Insert adapter in the headset output, and all is fine. It really is the most beautiful sounding accompaniment axe I have ever owned. Quote -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Agreed on 5S love. My right audio jack is failing, so I have moved over to a TRS Insert adapter in the headset output, and all is fine. It really is the most beautiful sounding accompaniment axe I have ever owned. I concur. Just be careful with the headphone out that you gain stage that before FOH Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 years hard gigging out of what is a relatively budget-priced board is a good investment in anyone's book. On the plus side - we get to look forward to seeing what you choose to replace it... Cheers, Mike. Soon Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Yeah, eventually I will. It's not like I don't know how to break it down all the way. I'm just focused on gig related things/rigs right now. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smanzella Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just for giggles and grins, check all the visible solder joints. That unit probably uses lead free or low lead content solder which tends to crack or otherwise deteriorate at some point. Quote Yamaha CP-73, Hammond SK Pro 73, Yamaha MODX 7, Roland Fantom 06, Roland VK-8M, Yamaha FS1R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just for giggles and grins, check all the visible solder joints. That unit probably uses lead free or low lead content solder which tends to crack or otherwise deteriorate at some point. Thanks. yeah I checked out most of them. They all actually look pretty good. I saw one that looked like a typical "cold solder" but there is continuity thru the solder connection. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Dragging gear around to events can be hazardous. I got 6 years of easy money w/ my Physis K4 but noticed (only during editing/programming) faders bouncing from #8 to #9, and going from perform to view mode. Can"t live w/o the K4 so I ordered spare parts for it and it"s spare since they"ve been discontinued, unless you want weighted action & sounds for 2k more. I am way past using a different keyboard now. Spares & parts for me. Quote Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smanzella Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 One other possibility is to check all your capacitors with an ESR meter (Equivalent Series Resistance). You can verify capacitors in-circuit with one of these. Quote Yamaha CP-73, Hammond SK Pro 73, Yamaha MODX 7, Roland Fantom 06, Roland VK-8M, Yamaha FS1R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Okay that"s very cool, thank you. Something new to add to my arsenal. May have to pick one up tomorrow. Might come handy on some of the electronics in my model railroad stuff. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Verelst Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 A failing ground connection on the audio outputs can cause a major current surge when a cable is plugged in connecting with non-grounded equipment. I've had various technology parts blow up because of ground current through ungrounded switching supply filter capacitances. Might be worth checking is the output audio buffers have blown. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzikTeechur Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I've had my PX-5s for a few years now. I bought it used on eBay, so it only cost about half of retail. Great buy. I've had to go inside a few times to fix a broken key, clean contacts, etc. If you have some time, you might consider re-flowing the solder on contacts on the audio trace - especially those where larger components are soldered. SMT stuff usually doesn't crack, but connectors and heat sinks/transistors often succumb to vibration. (I'm sure you know all this) Quote Muzikteechur is Lonnie, in Kittery, Maine. HS music teacher: Concert Band, Marching Band, Jazz Band, Chorus, Music Theory, AP Music Theory, History of Rock, Musical Theatre, Piano, Guitar, Drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 My PX5s died too - just sitting in the closet for a couple of years. I recently pulled it out, and upon powering it up received a bunch of blinking blue lights with an error message on the display. Ugh. I don't have much faith in Casio pianos at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscapeRocks Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 My PX5s died too - just sitting in the closet for a couple of years. I recently pulled it out, and upon powering it up received a bunch of blinking blue lights with an error message on the display. Ugh. I don't have much faith in Casio pianos at the moment. If you have the blinking blue lights blue lights. re install the firmware: Go to Casio.com The Select Support Then near the bottom Choose Drivers and Downloads Finally Choose Musical Instruments You'll then see a list of instruments. FInd the PX-5S. You want the update.bin file. Copy to the root directory of a thumb drive. with the PX-5S off, plug in the thumb drive to the PX-5S. Power on the PX-5S. It should automatically start updating/installing the firmware. DON"T TOUCH ANY BUTTONS until it's done. Once it's done, turn off the PX-5S, remove thumb drive. The power on, and you should be good to go. I always keep two thumb drives: One with the Firmware, and the other with all my stage setting, etc.. backups. Quote David Gig Rig:Depends on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Thank you David for taking the time to post that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Can't wait to see what you do next. You piqued my interest with the old keys new rig thread. Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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