dalpozlead Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 for CP-33/CP-300 owners.. do you think this board have a heavy keybed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Not an owner, and barely remember playing one...but my impression is that it is quite heavy. I read a long article (one guy's opinion to be sure) about downweight and one other measurement for actions, and in his opinion the GH "medium level" yamaha actions on all the stage line and some of the home line are all too heavy compared to the typical/ideal grand weight (again, his opinion!)...the cheap GHS and the more expensive avantgarde ones are ok. Again, what really matters is how you like it. For example, I personally have issues with most of the Roland actions, that guy from the article thinks they are spot-on and basically what he thinks a piano action should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalpozlead Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 yeap, I think its too heavy, but can't afford another controller (and frankly it seats perfectly in my new designed desk). So I'm trying to think about ways to change this, and make it lighter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjazz Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 for CP-33/CP-300 owners.. do you think this board have a heavy keybed? Former CP33 owner here ... definitely heavy, I thought. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Quinn Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Another former CP33 owner here. Yes, heavy. CP4 is so much better. https://alquinn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 That thing was a clunker X 10. They said it was the same action as the P120 which I used for 10 years. But I remember it playing nowhere as easy as the P120. It sounded harsher too. I was using the EV SXA-360s at that time. The CP5 came out after the CP33, and that was light years better and now the CP4 is another improvement on that. https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 2005 NY Steinway D Yamaha AvantGrand N3X, CP88, P515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa Gherkin Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Yup. When the CP-33 was a hot ticket I tried one after seeing some positive comments on this forum. Also used one in a backline provided situation. It made for a pretty long feeling 40 minute set. Was shocked at how heavy the action was. Sounded ok but the heaviness of the action was a dealbreaker for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalpozlead Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 we'll guess I've messed up with this purchase 8 years ago LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Yeah, heavy .... I broke a key once on my 2nd one, sold it, re-bought it. Never broke a key on any other DP. That's it in my Icon photo with an old Nord Electro Rack on top, can just see a hair of red. Playing organ on it was something, no smears or anything. For smaller gigs w/o a 2nd board. CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzman Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I'll pile on. It's now a backup to my backup if that tells you anything. Very heavy action - quick passages were always challenging. I did like the bass patches though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg22 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Do P155 and CP33 have the same GH action? (I think they are even from the same production year). If so, I don't find my Yamaha P155 action heavy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphollis Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 It was my first gigging keyboard. A massive, heavy beast. Heavy, stiff action. I had no complaints at the time. I was just happy to be playing on stage with a decent board. But, boy, did my hand strength improve after playing it for a while. Everything else felt like a toy afterwards. Sort of like going to the gym. I could sit down at a traditional grand and rip things up. Want to make your band better? Check out "A Guide To Starting (Or Improving!) Your Own Local Band" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickp Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I havent been able to convince myself to part with mine, theres something about it that makes me smile. I think it has the heaviest action of all the keyboards I own, and has a harder bottom landing of the keys than most keyboards, which can make the keys seem stiffer than they actually are. I use it several times a month as a practice keyboard for several reasons. As Chuck said, it sure builds/maintains hand strength. It feels very similar to the grand pianos in three of the churches Im invited to play a few times each year. And whatever I practice hard or uptempo on the 33 will feel like a breeze to play on my 4 and most everything else I might encounter. And for the occasional blues or Southern Rock jam or reunion gig, its still a blast to use live. Kawai KG-2D / Yamaha CP33 S90ES MX49 CP4 P515 / Hammond SK1 / Nord S4 88, S3 88, S3Compact, S3 76 QSC K8.2s K10.2s KS212s / SoundcraftUi24 / SSv3 / GK MB112s MB115 MB210s Neo410 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalpozlead Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 any DIY actions to make it smoother? or I'll open a can of worms if start thinking to execute such thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Hello, Ive done some hunting around on google and it looks like the CP33 action is the same as the CLP-130, which I have. If that is the case, I dont find the action to be too heavy at all. It bottom out hard but other than that its quite nice. I like it better than the GH3 on my higher end Clavinova from around the same era (two year later release date). Very smooth key tops however, so you can slip a little if youre not careful. Heres an older thread I dug up: https://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2350606/Can_Someone_Here_Compare_The_Y Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76| Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT, Kurzweil PC4 (88) Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LX88 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I agree with Dave Ferris. I picked up a P120 and a CP33 a couple years ago and A/B'ed them, and the P120 won. I still have it and still use it. To me, the P 120 and the CP33 sound quite a bit like the MOXF which I also had for awhile. Most of the Yamaha samples sound similar to me until the CP5 and later the CP4 came out , and then the Montage and whatever this latest offshoot is called. The only thing I do not like is a certain plunkiness in the midrange of these earlier Yamahas, right up through the last of the Motif, MOXF, MO8's or whatever. They can still get you through some practice sessions, but are hard to gig with because they are hard to amplify. That being said I am often surprised on how good my P120 still sounds when I add a common 10'' woofer based home subwoofer. The P120 has slightly better action than the CP33 did, but it is well broken in I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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