ksoper Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Just no banjos please, you might end up here: [video:youtube] Hey--I'm from South Jersey. The Mummers are sacred! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I saw those guys a few times. pretty interesting actually. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomson Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 It's hard to beat The accordion/banjo combination. [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I saw those guys a few times. pretty interesting actually. Very talented, just not my cup of tea. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyBoy Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I'm an accordionist and it's not my cup of tea either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonizer Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 The accordian is important for "Scenes From an Italian Restaurant" and "Säkkijärvi Polka" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A4kkij%C3%A4rven_polkka). What more is needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yannis D Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Beware! Once you start getting into playing the accordion you will start looking for any opportunity to get to play it. In any style of music. And most of the time it might actually work. This is so true! I m a newcomer to the game but I love it and want to play more of it. Be grateful for what you've got - a Nord, a laptop and two hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogman1 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Some people take it quite serious: Tom Nord Electro 5D, Modal Cobalt 8, Yamaha upright piano, numerous plug-ins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Wow, I enjoyed that. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogman1 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 There is a LOT to know about the accordion. Various bass systems in left hand, and then there's the chromatic accordion with the isomorphic keyboard layout. Once you get past the stigma of "oohm pa pa" stuff on it, you learn how cool it could be in the right hands. That's why I've been revisiting mine. As I stated earlier, it's my first instrument and one I want to really dig into now. Even just using the standard "stradella" bass layout, there are a lot of serious jazz cats who combine the left hand triads to create polychords. Do some searches and you'll be pleasantly surprised. Tom Nord Electro 5D, Modal Cobalt 8, Yamaha upright piano, numerous plug-ins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Congrats on the accordian acquisition. When played well, the instrument can be a monster. In a good way. I often refer to my keytar (AX-Synth) as the 4th least respected instrument in North America, the top three being banjo, accordian, and viola. Now that someone has mentioned trombone, I may have to rethink that list. When asked about the "cheesy 80s" keytar, I generally respond that my life's work is now to make the instrument respectable. Sometimes I will even bet the questioner that after I play, he will respect the instrument. I usually the win the bet. Similarly, I don't know how anyone could watch old Myron Floren play "Lady of Spain" and then not respect the accordian. -Tom Williams {First Name} {at} AirNetworking {dot} com PC4-7, PX-5S, AX-Edge, PC361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I often refer to my keytar (AX-Synth) as the 4th least respected instrument in North America, the top three being banjo, accordian, and viola. Now that someone has mentioned trombone, I may have to rethink that list. The tuba has got to be in there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Link Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I picked up a little two octave keyboard student model years ago. Just 12 left hand buttons, but I don't use them. It adds a nice sound on a few tunes in the country band. For the life of me I don't get why there isn't accordion on "Callin' Baton Rouge", for example. I just get it near my vocal mic and hope it isn't too loud! Then lean in to sing my harmony parts. I have to say I can't help but smile when I play it and it typically gets a good reaction from the audience. Have fun! aka âmisterdregsâ Nord Electro 5D 73 Yamaha P105 Kurzweil PC3LE7 Motion Sound KP200S Schimmel 6-10LE QSC CP-12 Westone AM Pro 30 IEMs Rolls PM55P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod76 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I remember when I heard my (now deceased) uncle had sold his accordion. He couldn't play it anymore but the sad thing is none of his children wanted it. I'll never know for sure but I believe he would have given it to me in a second if it had crossed his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 Some people take it quite serious: My sister directed me to this about a year ago. My training is in classical organ. I don't think I've ever heard it better. Even just using the standard "stradella" bass layout, there are a lot of serious jazz cats who combine the left hand triads to create polychords. Do some searches and you'll be pleasantly surprised. Just messing around with it a bit I was able to stumble on some voicings that were really reminiscent of Zawinul, who started on accordion. If it was good enough for him, it's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Why are people so proud of their hatred for instruments that are misunderstood based on popular well-known pieces that are misrepresentative of the instrument's typical roles? And even so, why rain on someone else's parade. This is literally the only forum where I see this sort of behaviour. It's pathetic. Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Accordion and viola feature prominently on my upcoming jazz album. Tuba stands in for bass on one song. It's not very audible though so I'm not going to claim the album features tuba. I would argue that accordion is appropriate to more genres than almost any instrument. But of course this is partly because there are so many variants. Nevertheless, it is essentially a reed instrument, and one of the world's oldest. Viola is a beautiful instrument and has more or less the same range as clarinet (my original instrument focus while I was studying at conservatory). Not as versatile as cello, but neither is violin. Cello, due to its scale, benefits from having the largest usable range of any member of the violin family, and manages to have distinct character in each register while also retaining a highly beautiful and emotive character throughout its range. The genres in which viola is particularly prominent include gypsy swing (aka manouche), and klezmer, along with just about any middle eastern or eastern european form of music. Interestingly, the viola and accordion are often paired -- more so than violin and accordion. Probably this is because they complement each other better in terms of being distinctly heard without masking each other. Also, both can be melancholic. My biggest challenge on my current album was in finding the accordion sound appropriate for Colombian Cumbia, as Colombian instruments in general are nigh impossible to find in the USA or even in sample libraries. I did a lot of research and it seemed that a particular German accordion came the closest to matching what is used in Cumbia. But what they actually use is unique, just as is the bandoneon in tango music. To some degree, accordion technique can carry over from one accordion (or accordion type) to another -- especially if one uses one with the same bass system. But bandoneon is another animal altogether, as the same keys make different notes if the bellows are going one direction vs. the other -- sort of like a harmonica. This is what also makes it arguably the most songful and expressive of all accordions, but it is notoriously difficult to play and only in recent years have new ones been manufactured, so the art of playing it has been disappearing due to the difficulty of finding a vintage instrument in good shape. So, to the OP, you are quite lucky to have found a playable vintage accordion of any type, and one that doesn't need an expensive overhaul job (these usually run from $300 to $600 -- at least in my area, where storefront rents are high). Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Why are people so proud of their hatred for instruments that are misunderstood based on popular well-known pieces that are misrepresentative of the instrument's typical roles? And even so, why rain on someone else's parade. This is literally the only forum where I see this sort of behaviour. It's pathetic. Dude, chill. We're just having some fun at someone's expense. I often refer to my keytar (AX-Synth) as the 4th least respected instrument in North America, the top three being banjo, accordian, and viola. Now that someone has mentioned trombone, I may have to rethink that list. The tuba has got to be in there too. Not anymore! http://images1.musicfeeds.com.au/c176a5152e197a184a30fa949d5f9477-640x360.jpg "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The tuba has got to be in there too. Not anymore! LOL. They make the tuba look cool! That tambourine guy tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEMcCut Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The tambourine guy is Joe Saylor. He is actually a serious jazz musician and studied at Julliard. He has recorded with Wynton Marsalis among others and was on the cover of Modern Drummer. Joe is from my hometown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bif_ Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/ZenLunatic82/FarSide-Accordion.jpg In good fun of course. Kurzweil Forte, Yamaha Motif ES7, Muse Receptor 2 Pro Max, Neo Ventilator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Linguini Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I played accordion for many years when I was much younger -- from age 9 to 19. I grew to hate it, mostly because I was actually pretty good, so expectations were high to go far with it and the whole thing just got too serious. My teacher (God rest his soul) was great in that he gave me classical, popular, and a good bit of theory, but never anything I really wanted to play. I majored in it for two years in college until my head was about to implode and then switched majors and quit for good. I sold both instruments (a classical Excelsior and an early organ type that wasn't a Cordovox) and never really looked back. I think about it from time to time, kind of like you might think about an old girlfriend who you broke up with before going all the way with or killing her. My wife keeps bugging me to find a used one because she wants to hear me play it. But it doesn't suit 99.99% of the music in play now, so I honestly don't know what I'd do with one beyond trying it once to see if my left hand can still find its way around and then throwing it in a closet for the rest of eternity. And anything remotely decent, even well used, is so damned expensive. So here I remain accordionless, as I have for most of the last 40 years. D-10; M50; SP4-7; SP6 I'm a fairly accomplished hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Mark Schmieder thanks for your post. I found it very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamanczarek Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 The Russian Bayan might change a few people's opinions about Accordions. I first saw one of these being used in a small chamber ensemble several years ago. It was amazing how orchestral they sounded with this Accordion filling out the music. The Bayan is a 20th century re-invention of the button Accordion that plays chromatically and has become widely used by virtuoso classical players: [video:youtube] C3/122, M102A, Vox V301H, Farfisa Compact, Gibson G101, GEM P, RMI 300A, Piano Bass, Pianet , Prophet 5 rev. 2, Pro-One, Matrix 12, OB8, Korg MS20, Jupiter 6, Juno 60, PX-5S, Nord Stage 3 Compact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PianoMan51 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 And then beers all around. http://im.rediff.com/news/2011/sep/20ss2.jpg When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 PARTY TIME! [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Years ago when Buffalo's West Side was a little Italy a lot of kids had to play accordion. This is an old picture from a guy John I know that was "forced" to play the instrument. I guess it was televised. http://i63.tinypic.com/2igoacg.jpg "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Oversize photo alert. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Sorry the hosting site always does that. Who do you guys normally use? "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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