Delaware Dave Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 15 hours ago, HammondDave said: For the Rick Beato fans here… Quote 57 Hammond B3; 69 Hammond L100P; 68 Leslie 122; Kurzweil Forte7 & PC3; M-Audio Code 61; Voce V5+; Neo Vent; EV ELX112P; GSI Gemini & Burn Delaware Dave Exit93band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Mein Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 1/15/2015 at 8:01 PM, Josh Paxton said: http://s14.postimg.org/dqmeaq7g1/Part_1.png I've also done this song for years, what is the procedure for viewing these image files?? Quote https://www.facebook.com/Meinfield-346702719450783/ Songs on SoundCloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J.F.N. Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/9/2024 at 8:39 PM, TommyRude said: I was watching this one some week or two ago, I find she's definitely concluding it in a very easy and comprehensive way, great video!! Quote "You live every day. You only die once." Where is Major Tom? - - - - - PC3, HX3 w. B4D, 61SLMkII, SL73, Prologue 16, KingKORG, Opsix, MPC Key 37, DM12D, Argon8m, EX5R, Toraiz AS-1, IK Uno, Toraiz SP-16, Erica LXR-02, QY-700, SQ64, Beatstep Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Verelst Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I think she has a load of main things wrong, and the chords sound illogical and somewhat overdone. Of course, the production, effects and instrument mastery come into play for more than a few elements. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 10 minutes ago, Theo Verelst said: I think she has a load of main things wrong, and the chords sound illogical and somewhat overdone. Of course, the production, effects and instrument mastery come into play for more than a few elements. Well, she plays it well enough for Stevie. And while on stage she may well be playing something different from what Stevie is playing, she probably has a really good knowledge of just what Stevie is playing as well. 5 Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, AnotherScott said: Well, she plays it well enough for Stevie. And while on stage she may well be playing something different from what Stevie is playing, she probably has a really good knowledge of just what Stevie is playing as well. Exactly. Steve Nathan's post from a few years ago is the wisdom here. For whatever reason, some musicians want to get into a deep dive technical analysis of a recording when the music was produced based on feel and groove. Glossed over is the fact that Stevie Wonder himself plays the tune differently. Listen to any number of Stevie Wonder live performances and how his band rearranges and burns on his songs without playing them as recorded. I cannot imagine a good reason that this song or any song for that matter has to be played exactly as it was recorded. Especially not if the recording or instrumental tracks are floating around. 😁😎 1 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Agreed. Ray Manzarek is a great example of not giving a shit about playing what he recorded, or at least he didn't in *anything* live I've ever seen or heard. Donald Fagen has a few live versions of Peg, which was a bit frustrating for a visual learning hack like me who can't read music (other than guitar tabs) to see him just sort of ad lib over the chords any way he pleases! Never heard Rick Wakeman stick to what he played exactly either. And on and on. I find it absolutely hilarious that (some) small-time cover bands I've talked to get so uptight about that sort of thing, while many of the original bands don't care. Hey different strokes, I just avoid joining bands like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobadohshe Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 1/25/2022 at 3:23 PM, MathOfInsects said: I do think Superstition is one of those songs you generally have to play wrong to play right, at least if you're sitting in with anyone new. If that drummer kicks off those four bars, and you're not in with the slimline two-groups-of-seven-notes, bare skeleton of a riff--basically, the Stevie Ray Vaughan extraction of that iconic part--most cats are going to wonder what in the world you're playing. Exactly this IMO. How you kick the tune off is essential. The rest is vibe and will depend on your rhythm section, particular clav sample and band mix. It IS important to play the right chords on the turnaround though. Quote Kawai C-60 Grand Piano : Hammond A-100 : Hammond SK2 : Yamaha CP4 : Yamaha Montage 7 : Moog Sub 37 My latest album: Funky organ, huge horn section https://bobbycressey.bandcamp.com/album/cali-native Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/18/2024 at 9:10 AM, Stokely said: Agreed. Ray Manzarek is a great example of not giving a shit about playing what he recorded, or at least he didn't in *anything* live I've ever seen or heard. Donald Fagen has a few live versions of Peg, which was a bit frustrating for a visual learning hack like me who can't read music (other than guitar tabs) to see him just sort of ad lib over the chords any way he pleases! Never heard Rick Wakeman stick to what he played exactly either. And on and on. I find it absolutely hilarious that (some) small-time cover bands I've talked to get so uptight about that sort of thing, while many of the original bands don't care. Hey different strokes, I just avoid joining bands like that. I remember back in the day when name artists had a live version of tunes they played and the recorded version. They gave songs more energy live to compensate for now having all the filler bits the records had. The band Bread was big on the radio then but reviews of their live shows tore them up the complaint of reviewers they were too perfect live, they sounded exactly like their records and live that doesn't cut it. Nowaday bands have playback engineers feeding all the filler bits into the FOH system and every one on a click because the lighting and other stage effects are all running on the sync click. Now people go to concerts to hear the record basically played thru the FOH system and musicians and singers are just meat puppets dancing on stage. No wonder ticket prices are ridiculous it cost a lot to all all that FOH system, playback gear, lighting, props, dancers and all city to city just so people can I say <fill in the blank> dance and lip sync most of there hits. The energy and soul are gone in concerts now as far as I'm concerned might as well wait for the concert DVD and save $$$ the experience is the same. Okay time I back away from the coffee pot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 That's the main reason I go to few shows. And frankly have little wish to watch glorified karaoke on my tv either. Part of what I love about playing, and listening to, live music is seeing what people can pull off "manually". Whether that's with a giant ensemble like Snarky Puppy sometimes brings out, or a duo, I don't care to hear a bunch of musak making it sound big and full. Not to mention at least a few bands around here just fake even the instruments they are playing, which is shit IMO. But that's just me and my spending cash, I fully realize I'm in the tiny minority and that battle has been long over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 The only "backing track" I ever use is that sometimes I use drum rhythms in the keyboard when we're playing without a drummer (though not always... often we just omit drums sounds entirely... mostly depending on whether or not the folks hiring us are looking for people to dance). I have mixed feelings about it. It sounds good, but I worry that people might hear that and think, hmmm, "maybe some of the other stuff I'm hearing is automated too," and they may not be sure that everything else they're hearing is indeed being played/sung live. Though in the end, I'm sure I care more about that than they do. 😉 1 Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Docbop said: Nowaday bands have playback engineers feeding all the filler bits into the FOH system and every one on a click because the lighting and other stage effects are all running on the sync click. Thankfully, none of the musicians I would pay to hear live uses backing tracks.😎 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 7 minutes ago, ProfD said: Thankfully, none of the musicians I would pay to hear live uses backing tracks.😎 Same here mainly because I'm into Jazz, I'm referring to the masses who don't know or even care they just want to hold up their smartphone and make videos they will never watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 11 minutes ago, Docbop said: I'm referring to the masses who don't know or even care they just want to hold up their smartphone and make videos they will never watch. To be fair, the majority of them aren't really there for the *music* . It's all about the artist and experience of being in the same vicinity.😎 Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpl1228 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 It is quite possibly the most "deceptively difficult" keyboard part in pop music. The melody is simple but all the rhythmic stuff too.....I never got it right and I used to cover that up by suggesting the Stevie Ray Vaughn version to the rest of the band. "Hey guys, I'll cover the horn parts on my synth!" haha You know how they say piano players are not organ players? It's a smaller niche, but I'd also say the same thing about clavinet players. Quote Roland RD-2000, Yamaha Motif XF7, Mojo 61, 2 Invisible keyboard stands (!!!!!), 1939 Martin Handcraft Imperial trumpet "Everyone knows rock music attained perfection in 1974. It is a scientific fact." -- Homer Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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