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should I upgrade from S90ES to S90XS?


jimmymio

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I've used the ES for several years and really like it. I've been considering an upgrade but on another list I saw this post:

 

"...While I love my S70XS and wouldn't trade it, try your best to play one before buying; a lot of people hate the piano on the S70/XS and much prefer the piano on the earlier S90/ES. Some people really hate the piano on the new model...."

 

Can anyone comment?

Also I played the XS briefly in a store and the action seemed different than the ES. Is this true?

And finally, what's up with that miniature LCD screen? It looks like it's from a 1990's KB.

 

Thanks, JP

 

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I upgraded from a S90ES to a S70ES. To me, the S90ES piano is a better gigging piano (cuts through a band better) and the S70XS/S90XS sounds more detailed/realistic (especially in the higher register) in solo context, but has this weird boxyness to it in the low end. I partially changed to a S70XS for the smaller size and weight....not sure I would switch to a S90XS. In terms of the interface, there are things on the XS that are now more intuitive, but there are times when it's a drag that you can't edit a patch without a computer.

Regarding the action, Yamaha says the weighted actions on S90 ES, S90XS, Motif XS, XF are all the same.....but when I play them in stores side by side (with the volume turned down), they all feel slightly different. For a short period I owned both a S90Es and S70XS.....they did not feel identical.

I would just purchase one from a store that had a generous return policy and play both of them for a week or so and make a decision. I will say that I would like my S70XS a lot better if I had access to the S90ES piano for certain situations.

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My experience was very similar to Nicky's. S90ES worked out better as a band piano; S90XS sounded great for solo/small ensemble work. Being that the S90ES had also -over the years - worked well as a solo piano, I sold the S90XS. Unfortunately I also just moved the ES - as the heavy, balanced action was beating up my right hand too much (started developing tendonosis). I did notice that the actions of the two keyboards felt slightly different. If the main piano in the S90XS had been based on a CFS III sample, I might have tried working with it a bit longer to see if the different action aggravated my RH as much as the ES. However for those whom the S6 piano works out well, the S90XS is a dream machine, IMO. I thought the improved front panel features were great; that 'Panel Lock' function is awesome. I wish that had been on my S90ES, and I certainly miss it on my FP-4 (I've hit the Function button, Metronome, etc. a couple of times already during some wilder solos... Think I need the equivalent of a cafeteria 'sneeze guard' between the back of the keybed and front panel.)

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and I certainly miss it on my FP-4 (I've hit the Function button, Metronome, etc. a couple of times already during some wilder solos...

Sorry to OT, but I think the FP4 does have this feature. It's a combination of 2 buttons, as I recall. Look in the manual.

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I'm an S90ES owner who has never played or heard the XS.

 

I'm curious on hearing others comments regarding the ES piano not sounding as good as a solo piano... are we comparing the Natural S (patch #1) piano? Because I find the Dark S piano on the ES (I think it's patch #3) to be very well-suited to solo piano work.

 

I guess I'm wondering how others feel the Dark S compares to the pianos on the XS.

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and I certainly miss it on my FP-4 (I've hit the Function button, Metronome, etc. a couple of times already during some wilder solos...

Sorry to OT, but I think the FP4 does have this feature. It's a combination of 2 buttons, as I recall. Look in the manual.

 

 

:thu: Just found it: Function + Equalizer = Panel Lock; repeat and it unlocks. Thanks !

 

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