jimmymio Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I've used the ES for several years and really like it. I've been considering an upgrade but on another list I saw this post: "...While I love my S70XS and wouldn't trade it, try your best to play one before buying; a lot of people hate the piano on the S70/XS and much prefer the piano on the earlier S90/ES. Some people really hate the piano on the new model...." Can anyone comment? Also I played the XS briefly in a store and the action seemed different than the ES. Is this true? And finally, what's up with that miniature LCD screen? It looks like it's from a 1990's KB. Thanks, JP 1935 Mason & Hamlin Model A Korg Kronos 2 73 Nord Electro 6D 61 Yam S90ES Rhodes Stage 73 (1972) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Clonk here or here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Yes. I still love mine. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Yes. I still love mine. +1. What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I upgraded from a S90ES to a S70ES. To me, the S90ES piano is a better gigging piano (cuts through a band better) and the S70XS/S90XS sounds more detailed/realistic (especially in the higher register) in solo context, but has this weird boxyness to it in the low end. I partially changed to a S70XS for the smaller size and weight....not sure I would switch to a S90XS. In terms of the interface, there are things on the XS that are now more intuitive, but there are times when it's a drag that you can't edit a patch without a computer. Regarding the action, Yamaha says the weighted actions on S90 ES, S90XS, Motif XS, XF are all the same.....but when I play them in stores side by side (with the volume turned down), they all feel slightly different. For a short period I owned both a S90Es and S70XS.....they did not feel identical. I would just purchase one from a store that had a generous return policy and play both of them for a week or so and make a decision. I will say that I would like my S70XS a lot better if I had access to the S90ES piano for certain situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 My experience was very similar to Nicky's. S90ES worked out better as a band piano; S90XS sounded great for solo/small ensemble work. Being that the S90ES had also -over the years - worked well as a solo piano, I sold the S90XS. Unfortunately I also just moved the ES - as the heavy, balanced action was beating up my right hand too much (started developing tendonosis). I did notice that the actions of the two keyboards felt slightly different. If the main piano in the S90XS had been based on a CFS III sample, I might have tried working with it a bit longer to see if the different action aggravated my RH as much as the ES. However for those whom the S6 piano works out well, the S90XS is a dream machine, IMO. I thought the improved front panel features were great; that 'Panel Lock' function is awesome. I wish that had been on my S90ES, and I certainly miss it on my FP-4 (I've hit the Function button, Metronome, etc. a couple of times already during some wilder solos... Think I need the equivalent of a cafeteria 'sneeze guard' between the back of the keybed and front panel.) 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymio Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 thanks for the responses. Anyone else wanna chime in? JP 1935 Mason & Hamlin Model A Korg Kronos 2 73 Nord Electro 6D 61 Yam S90ES Rhodes Stage 73 (1972) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyMary Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 and I certainly miss it on my FP-4 (I've hit the Function button, Metronome, etc. a couple of times already during some wilder solos... Sorry to OT, but I think the FP4 does have this feature. It's a combination of 2 buttons, as I recall. Look in the manual. Stage: MOX6, V-machine, and Roland AX7 Rolls PM351 for IEMs. Home/recording: Roland FP4, a few guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dongna Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I'm an S90ES owner who has never played or heard the XS. I'm curious on hearing others comments regarding the ES piano not sounding as good as a solo piano... are we comparing the Natural S (patch #1) piano? Because I find the Dark S piano on the ES (I think it's patch #3) to be very well-suited to solo piano work. I guess I'm wondering how others feel the Dark S compares to the pianos on the XS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Well it is a digital piano, like a Hammond clone it is only going to be so close. You guys are splitting hairs. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I don't use the S6 piano live, it's too mellow. I use the Rock piano patch & kill all the reverb. What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adan Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Jimmy, I sent you a PM. Gigging: Crumar Mojo 61, Hammond SKPro Home: Vintage Vibe 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymio Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 Jimmy, I sent you a PM. Adan: That's funny. i don't see it. JP 1935 Mason & Hamlin Model A Korg Kronos 2 73 Nord Electro 6D 61 Yam S90ES Rhodes Stage 73 (1972) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan_evett Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 and I certainly miss it on my FP-4 (I've hit the Function button, Metronome, etc. a couple of times already during some wilder solos... Sorry to OT, but I think the FP4 does have this feature. It's a combination of 2 buttons, as I recall. Look in the manual. Just found it: Function + Equalizer = Panel Lock; repeat and it unlocks. Thanks ! We now return to our regularly scheduled program. 'Someday, we'll look back on these days and laugh; likely a maniacal laugh from our padded cells, but a laugh nonetheless' - Mr. Boffo. We need a barfing cat emoticon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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