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It's a little of all of those things you mentioned but if I had to put it down to one style I'd say it's got an 80s fusion and smooth jazz vibe. Check out stuff like Fourplay and The Yellowjackets. For the second tune check out the stuff that David Garfield was involved with in the 80s including Steve Lukather's 'Los Lobotomys'.
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Last year I did a session for Steve Churchyard who was producing this exact Herbie session. Of course I don't get to do sessions for rad people like him very often, so knowing he was involved with this record I asked him all about it. He said it was amazing how Fazioli did all that work getting the piano there and meticulously tuned up (hours of labor) and ready to go and then it basically sat in the corner almost entirely unused until at the last minute Herbie decided 'hey I'll blow a solo on it'. Which he did and totally crushed in one take and that was that.
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This sucks.
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Just watched 10 min of the above vid. Man it's so good. I'll have to watch the whole thing sometime.
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When I wrote my TOP tribute song for my album, I listened to a bunch of TOP just for the bass lines and tried to write one similar. I gave it to our bass player who was like 'well okay'. And I said it had a Rocco vibe, just do that and he educated me that basically nobody can play like Rocco plays in his totally unique style. It's somewhat inimitable. (He still did a great job on the bassline though).
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I just can't imagine the schlep factor - both in terms of weight and in terms of setup time. But I'm eager to see how you get on.
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Pure fire. What year?
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Looks expensive!
And heavy
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Yes another involved keyboard related project. You sir are a sick puppy.
And I hope you never get well.
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All I gotta say is YES, I made it one whole year without changing my avatar back from my Halloween avatar. I've also left my Xmas lights up this whole year. It's been a weird year.
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There was nobody like him at all. A totally unique and somewhat inimitable style. RIP
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Don't shoot the messenger but it's instantly recognizable:
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How long does it take to set up that rig? Curious.
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Can't wait to see what you do next. You piqued my interest with the old keys new rig thread.
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I love a thread like this. I too have succumbed to Forum induced GAS.
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This is serious badassery. I am also with Math's comment. I only made it 2/3 of the way before I'd heard/seen enough. I have come to really appreciate this whole vibe after a few years playing organ for the Padres, studying the axes some of the other organists get to play around the league and getting to record a ton of organ content for Sony's MLB: The Show. These instruments are fun and definitely a dying niche.
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if the human species manages to continue at something close to its current level of technological development for a few more generations (which I regard as a very big "if," but that's another matter), music notation as we know it will die out because more efficient and intuitive ways of communicating the same information will render it obsolete. The people like us who think it's great because we developed an emotional attachment to it through all the effort we put in to master it back when the other kids were going to parties and getting laid will grow old and die, and the people who come after us won't form those same irrational attachments because they'll have no need to. There will still be a handful of people who understand notation, but they'll be as rare and socially deviant as people who have conversations in Latin today.
I won't even begin to try to predict the future, but in certain arenas I just can't imagine anything more efficient than the system we have now. Yes my imagination is limited. But how do you pull together an Oscars award show without everybody being able to come in and read the thing down?
Reading opens so many doors and enables so much conservation of mental effort and time that is makes it possible to do a day like: shedding classical music in the early AM, heading to a studio session at 10 AM for which someone has scribbled out charts, heading to a big band or top 40 or musical gig that night. Without reading each of those things would still be possible but take much longer.
It also frankly allows us less than genius level players to have a viable career. I have hundreds and hundreds of tunes written out to play at the ballpark, various top 40 gigs, etc.. I don't have them memorized. I could spend the rest of my life doing that or I could raise my daughter and enjoy a balanced life, and then get to any of those gigs and play those tunes down at a moment's notice.
I just don't see what could replace reading as we have it now to increase that efficiency. But again how do I know what's going to happen. I will say as reading is what ties us to being able to perform all the great classical literature of the last 400 years, it won't be going away that quickly.
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As I knock on the door of 40 next year (yes I know I'm a youngster compared to many folks here. But I was 26 when I joined this forum!) I have witnessed a dramatic shift in the way my own brain learns material. I can relate to something in literally each of the above comments.
I have found the following:
-I used to take for granted that I could memorize a piece of classical literature. I did it every year when I was 10-20 years old. Now it is a herculean task that DOES NOT happen automatically. This is partly because I read better than I used to so my lazy brain doesn't bother. But a few years ago I set out to specifically MEMORIZE a Scarlatti sonata. I learned it measure by measure by committing it to memory. And it worked. But it was slow and I actually didn't get beyond the first page because it was technically too much of a challenge.
-What Bill H says about the memorization switch being turned off because I'm reading everything rings true for me as well. I read lots of charts even on my top 40 gig now because it's easier. Then I'll have to memorize a tune for whatever reason and it's like 'ugh let's roll up our sleeves' SO MUCH more work. But it's still doable. I did a set 2 years ago at the House of Blues with a cool ska jazz project and I wanted to be visually as powerful as possible so I challenged myself to memorize the whole set. It was a lot of work but I did it. Sadly unlike myself years ago, this material has already all seeped out of my brain and if I had to play the same set today, I'd need to do the work again.
-Memorizing standards takes longer now and I don't retain them as much. What a bitch.
-Bill Hs other comment about learning in a group setting is right. Moonglow might be able to chime in on this as a psychologist, but I think it's been proven that as social animals humans brains become much more elastic in group settings. It's easier to learn tunes in a group.
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Neely video is excellent.
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The John Stockton to Keith's Karl Malone
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Earplugs are incredibly important for anyone in a band situation with volume above "acoustic" levels. My dad has pretty significant tinnitus from playing in bands from a young age and going to concerts regularly with no ear protection. When we listen to vinyl albums at his house, I have to address any static interference myself because he can't hear it anymore. Protect your hearing!
I have several pairs of these earplugs because they do an exceptional job of reducing decibels without muffling certain frequency ranges the way basic disposable plugs do. I also find them very comfortable for extended periods of use. Sorry if I'm going off topic.
Thanks for this I will pick up a couple pairs.
At 39 and often on stage for hundreds of gigs a year, I need to be taking much better care of my ears than I do.
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Almost always I roll off the bass. Then you might actually need to boost high mids or highs a touch. Vastly depends on your set up and sound. Also part of this is the sad realization that it will never be an entirely fulfilling sound through speakers.
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HUGE bummer
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I always refer to them that way when I'm describing their impact and who they are to the layperson for the first time. Though the LA scene was much bigger by then and there were plenty of sessions that had nothing to do with them. But they were all PART of and titans in that scene along with loads of others.
Good place to say that Lukather's autobiography from 2 years ago is must read. Actually must listen - I did the audio book and he reads it himself. It's truly amazing.
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