Ken Beaumont Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 gives me a second chance to be one of the cool kids. No, it makes you the keyboard equivalent of the guy that bought this in the 80's and called it a "Jeep": Behringer is delivering more than just products. Dreams come true. Only if you never played the original. Cute story Sven ... my youngest brother bought a Suzuki Samurai many years ago (because at that time he couldn't afford a "real" Jeep) and he put a lift kit, big tires, locking axles on it and joined a club full of mostly Jeep owners. Over the course of the next several years he used his winch and pulled many a Jeep out of trouble. That little Samurai would go places a Jeep just couldn't sometimes go. Plus it weighed about half as much. He has a Rubicon now but still kept his Suzuki. Sorry to go OT, it just reminded me. Yes I was going to comment. At that time Jeep wranglers had square headlights and a seriously under powered motor due to emissions requirements. I mentioned the square headlights because Jeep has never lived that down. You don't screw with the basic elements of an iconic design. The entire US auto industry was being schooled by those Japanese imports. Those Suzuki Samari are still loved to this day by many who had them. Quote Boards: Kurzweil SP-6, Roland FA-08, VR-09, DeepMind 12 Modules: Korg Radias, Roland D-05, Bk7-m & Sonic Cell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveCoscia Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 Only if you never played the original. I did get to play the original... just couldn't afford to buy one back then. Quote Steve Coscia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I also played the original, in Woodroffe's music shop in Birmingham (UK), and I also couldn't afford it, as I was 14. Actually, I don't think anyone other than superstars could afford it, it was the equivalent now of around £33k. However, every time I went in the shop, the nice guy in the keys department let me play it and talked with enthusiasm about it. His name was Dave Bristow, who eventually became a major figure in the development of the DX7. Quote Studio: Yamaha P515 | Yamaha Tyros 5 | Yamaha HX1 | Moog Sub 37 Road: Yamaha YC88 | Nord Electro 5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveCoscia Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 My CS-80 experiences began when I was with Unicord. I made the fortuitous decision to hire a local keyboard player named Jack Hotop as a technical support rep. He was playing with Rat Race Choir back then and the band owned a CS-80. I'd arrive early at his local gigs and Jack was nice enough to let me play his rig. Jack's technical support gig eventually morphed into him conducting clinics and sound development. MIDI was new and there was lots happening with synths. Jack came to Unicord at just the right time. A little OT with bit of history. Quote Steve Coscia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I made the fortuitous decision to hire a local keyboard player named Jack Hotop as a technical support rep. Fortuitous, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Steve did you do instrument demos and clinics at Sam Ash, Queens Blvd back in the day (80's) for Unicord or someone else...your icon photo looks familiar ...? I was given a tour of Jack's CS-80 at a 'Rat Race Choir' gig once...my friend Chris had played with Jack in a project or two and introduced me to Jack on that gig and the CS-80... not long after that he started working for Korg ...maybe a year or 2 ...Larry McGowan did not use a CS-80 with them ... they must of bought it after he took his 1st hiatus from the 'Rats' as my friends and I called them...we loved them BTW. My CS-80 experiences began when I was with Unicord. I made the fortuitous decision to hire a local keyboard player named Jack Hotop as a technical support rep. He was playing with Rat Race Choir back then and the band owned a CS-80. I'd arrive early at his local gigs and Jack was nice enough to let me play his rig. Jack's technical support gig eventually morphed into him conducting clinics and sound development. MIDI was new and there was lots happening with synths. Jack came to Unicord at just the right time. A little OT with bit of history. Quote CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveCoscia Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 Steve did you do instrument demos and clinics at Sam Ash, Queens Blvd back in the day (80's) for Unicord or someone else...your icon photo looks familiar ...? The only Unicord demos I did were for the KORG SP-80 and SP-80S pianos. Yes, Rat Race was a favorite. Last year, I drove up to Long Island for the RRC reunion at Mulcahy's in Wantagh. Fun night. Packed room of sixty-something year old fans. Quote Steve Coscia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I also played the original, in Woodroffe's music shop in Birmingham (UK), and I also couldn't afford it, as I was 14. Actually, I don't think anyone other than superstars could afford it, it was the equivalent now of around £33k. However, every time I went in the shop, the nice guy in the keys department let me play it and talked with enthusiasm about it. His name was Dave Bristow, who eventually became a major figure in the development of the DX7! Nobody could afford them, thats why one must sacrifice. I was 17 and the Credit Union loaned me half of the price which was 3400. I always found ways to buy gear though. In Vegas I hung out at Gay Bars because the drinks were free. Saved a hundred a week right there. Quote Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 For the record, nothing that either my parents or my 14 year old self could have sacrificed in 1976 would have bought me a CS80. Quote Studio: Yamaha P515 | Yamaha Tyros 5 | Yamaha HX1 | Moog Sub 37 Road: Yamaha YC88 | Nord Electro 5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 For the record, nothing that either my parents or my 14 year old self could have sacrificed in 1976 would have bought me a CS80. Just couldn't part with your Bentley I guess. Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Ah, OK.... I didn't go but wanted to to their re-union but I watched the YT vids., my friends re-negged so I stayed home rather than go alone..1st time I saw/heard 'Rat Race' was at 'Zeros' in Glen Cove in 1972-73, somewhere in there with Larry McGowen on keys running his B3 straight, no Leslie. 'We Don't Get Fooled Again'. Larry worked his B3 with a Vox Wah Wah pedal and it was just perfect for the intro with Allen's PA effects running echo, well lets just say that made me a lifetime fan along with everything else they did. Larry was playing an early Roland Synth at the time....Pre-Jupiter-4... not sure what it was, probably an SH-1000! He eventually moved up to a Jupiter 4, an amazing instrument for the late 70's. Jacks rig in the 80's was an huge thought out rig for sure which included a Korg Poly-6 and then he went to work for them! Steve did you do instrument demos and clinics at Sam Ash, Queens Blvd back in the day (80's) for Unicord or someone else...your icon photo looks familiar ...? The only Unicord demos I did were for the KORG SP-80 and SP-80S pianos. Yes, Rat Race was a favorite. Last year, I drove up to Long Island for the RRC reunion at Mulcahy's in Wantagh. Fun night. Packed room of sixty-something year old fans. Quote CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Rat Race Choir, Zebra, Twisted Sister, The Good Rats...ah, Long Island in the mid 70's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Oh Yes.... my band was a CTA (Creative Talent Assoc. New Rochelle) band also as were all you mentioned except The Good Rats I believe..but we were not Rat Race Choir but we did have our own thing ... our big claim to fame was the Catholic HS dances before the clubs which I actually enjoyed more almost....early nights and you had some time for the band and friends to hang out after the gigs which ended by 10:30 PM or so! We through CTA doubled with Twisted Sister at Glen Island Casino once or twice....they were a straight ahead Rock and Roll covers band in those days.... no glam or glitter! Sorry for being OT! Rat Race Choir, Zebra, Twisted Sister, The Good Rats...ah, Long Island in the mid 70's! Quote CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Larry McGowan did not use a CS-80 with them ... they must of bought it after he took his 1st hiatus from the 'Rats'] Like most local bands, what keyboards "they" have can depend on what keyboards the keyboardist owns. ;-) My guess is that the CS80 was Jack's own. I played with RRC for a little while early this century, I used a mix of their equipment and mine. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I did not know that AnotherScott....Wow, impressive gig..kudos to you man! David (bass) came up on stage when I was checking the CS80 out... I had said 'It Was Gold', he liked that...My impression was it was Jacky's myself though. I can ask him I guess! Larry McGowan did not use a CS-80 with them ... they must of bought it after he took his 1st hiatus from the 'Rats'] Like most local bands, what keyboards "they" have can depend on what keyboards the keyboardist owns. ;-) My guess is that the CS80 was Jack's own. I played with RRC for a little while early this century, I used a mix of their equipment and mine. Quote CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Zeger Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Rat Race Choir, Zebra, Twisted Sister, The Good Rats...ah, Long Island in the mid 70's! I recognize those names from growing up in the Hudson Valley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Simons Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Larry McGowan did not use a CS-80 with them ... they must of bought it after he took his 1st hiatus from the 'Rats'] Like most local bands, what keyboards "they" have can depend on what keyboards the keyboardist owns. ;-) My guess is that the CS80 was Jack's own. I played with RRC for a little while early this century, I used a mix of their equipment and mine. Richie Bifulco from the L.I. band Essence (always had great rigs) also had a CS-80. He lent it to me one night for a Stanton Anderson show at Tuey's. Stood quite close by with his eye on me all night, but I was very appreciative. Quote Yamaha P515 & CK88, Pianoteq, Mainstage, iOS, assorted other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Richie Bifulco from the L.I. band Essence (always had great rigs) also had a CS-80. He lent it to me one night for a Stanton Anderson show at Tuey's. Stood quite close by with his eye on me all night, but I was very appreciative. Wow - if that's the same band Essence from my college days some 40 years ago Richie (name rings a distant bell) was probably the very first keyboardist I ever talked to about gear. I would hang around the stage in between sets and he was all too happy to talk shop with this drooling kid. I recall he had those Little Lites (I believe) to illuminate his gear red. I still have mine somewhere. Super nice guy - thanks for bringing back the great memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Yup, I remember Essence. Also Spectrum, IIRC, who had the rarity, a female keyboardist. Another was Harpy. My band was Heresy. Ah, the days of "bar bands" who would play prog! Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Simons Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Harpy was one of the first bands I saw when I came back from school in the mid 70s. And I remember the name Heresy, surely I saw you play back in the day. Quote Yamaha P515 & CK88, Pianoteq, Mainstage, iOS, assorted other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 For the record, nothing that either my parents or my 14 year old self could have sacrificed in 1976 would have bought me a CS80. Just couldn't part with your Bentley I guess. Actually, it was letting the butler go which proved the sticking point. Seriously, you guys need to let go of those English stereotypes. Quote Studio: Yamaha P515 | Yamaha Tyros 5 | Yamaha HX1 | Moog Sub 37 Road: Yamaha YC88 | Nord Electro 5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Watching too much Downton Abbey I guess. Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 There is an updated version on now called 'Downtown Abbey', about a modern call girl's life while living in downtown London! Quote CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 boy, has this thread taken a left turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatoboy Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Sorry... I'm in work...never good mentally for posting here...to much pent up anxiety caused by ridiculous stupidity going on all around me with me in the center of it all some days . . .KF is my only relief Quote CP-50, YC 73, FP-80, PX5-S, NE-5d61, Kurzweil SP6, XK-3, CX-3, Hammond XK-3, Yamaha YUX Upright, '66 B3/Leslie 145/122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Ah... I completely understand. Quote When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Help me Obi Wan KC, you're my only hope! http://richardhoefer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Leia-Help-me-Obi-Wan.jpg Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieP_MechE Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 New rendering from Uli and co. Link to Behringer facebook post Big changes are getting rid of the preset sliders and making the ribbon bigger (it's there, just hard to see in the rendering) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 "We went back to the drawing board and made some changes" I'm guessing this only exists in a 3D modelling program at this point. Makes me wonder if they are designing from the outside in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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