myles_rose Posted October 9, 2005 Author Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by dealwithit: I have a question. I have been playing for 23 years, and have only recently started making the kind of money that would allow me to buy a new amp. I play a wide variety of music, from Classic Rock (Aerosmith, Zeppelin, Bad Co.) to modern top-40 (Foo Fighters, Creed, Etc.). I have used a 120W solid-state amp (2x12") with distortion pedals since I was 15. I would like to step up to all-tube and get that sound that I envy. My question is this: can you recommend an all-tube combo that has the distortion to cover my needs? I read and read about the Fender Blues Jr.'s tone, so I ordered one (I figured I could mike it onstage if I had to) and the thing just doesn't have the distortion I need, even when cranked up. I don't want to use pedals anymore, they don't give that sound! I have about $1000 to spend. I've heard about the Fender Twin as well, but the BJr scared me that it won't have enough distortion. I see all those Fenders in your avatar, so I assume you'll recommend a Fender. Can they cut it, from Zeppelin to modern rock? Any advice appreciated. Actually, my avatar is always changing and a Fender amp may not be the best choice for harder rock unless used with pedals. There are a lot of great amps out there and trying to answer this here would result in a list of hundreds of amps. I would suggest going to a good music store and trying things out. Then if you have specific questions you can write back here or email me at GAB or GT. There is a lot on my GAB website in the amps section of my favorite amp folks and there are many things there that would work nicely. You can also get to my website with the more simple link of www.mylestose.com Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hi MylesI apologize if this has been covered before. I have a question about adding tube-driven pedals or effects units to an amp. it`s possible to match the outputs of amp tubes, but what if you have an effects unit with another 12AX7 preamp tube? then if you`re not happy with the distorrion so you`re thinking about a tube distortion pedal?won`t the differeing outputs of all these tubes cause problems? is there a way to match all of them? Quote Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Myles, (Univalve) It seems like the GT6V6 power tube is a little limited on high frequency response. The NOS EL34s' frequency response is fine but with a power output around 20 Watts.Im looking for a power tube with the high end response of at least the EL34 but closer to the power output of the 6V6. Is there such a thing? Quote When i get big i'm gonn'a get an electric guitar... When i get real big... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Originally posted by skipclone 1: Hi Myles I apologize if this has been covered before. I have a question about adding tube-driven pedals or effects units to an amp. it`s possible to match the outputs of amp tubes, but what if you have an effects unit with another 12AX7 preamp tube? then if you`re not happy with the distorrion so you`re thinking about a tube distortion pedal? won`t the differeing outputs of all these tubes cause problems? is there a way to match all of them? This is generally not an issue with tube driven pedals any more than it is an issue with any other pedal. Pedals generally have output level controls. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Originally posted by Flashback: Myles, (Univalve) It seems like the GT6V6 power tube is a little limited on high frequency response. The NOS EL34s' frequency response is fine but with a power output around 20 Watts. Im looking for a power tube with the high end response of at least the EL34 but closer to the power output of the 6V6. Is there such a thing? The EL34 tube in the UV is closer to 12 watts. Stick with a good 6V6 or an EL84 in the adaptor. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Originally posted by myles111: Originally posted by Flashback: Myles, (Univalve) It seems like the GT6V6 power tube is a little limited on high frequency response. The NOS EL34s' frequency response is fine but with a power output around 20 Watts. Im looking for a power tube with the high end response of at least the EL34 but closer to the power output of the 6V6. Is there such a thing? The EL34 tube in the UV is closer to 12 watts. Stick with a good 6V6 or an EL84 in the adaptor. When you say a good 6V6 its as if youre saying the 6V6 should have the same high frequency response as the EL34? Quote When i get big i'm gonn'a get an electric guitar... When i get real big... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 11, 2005 Author Share Posted October 11, 2005 Each of these tubes has high end frequency response far beyond what a guitar amp asks of them. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Originally posted by myles111: Each of these tubes has high end frequency response far beyond what a guitar amp asks of them. Well yes that should be the case. It just sounds like the GT6V6 has a big notch out of the high end compared to the NOS EL34 and GT6L6. I dont know, Ill clean my ears and try it again this weekend. Quote When i get big i'm gonn'a get an electric guitar... When i get real big... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 11, 2005 Author Share Posted October 11, 2005 Originally posted by Flashback: Originally posted by myles111: Each of these tubes has high end frequency response far beyond what a guitar amp asks of them. Well yes that should be the case. It just sounds like the GT6V6 has a big notch out of the high end compared to the NOS EL34 and GT6L6. I dont know, Ill clean my ears and try it again this weekend. This depends on the amp and the output transformer. Think about Hi Fi amps .... they were all flat from 20-20K no matter if EL84, EL34, 6L6, 6550, KT-88, etc. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Ok, lets start at the beginning: 1. Can the power tube in the UniValve color the sound?2. If so, does the testing at GTs detect abnormal coloration? Quote When i get big i'm gonn'a get an electric guitar... When i get real big... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Myles I'm looking to buy a speaker for myvibrolux,it has the jensen p-10 but can'tfind out how many watts it is.Is it 15 or 25? The P10R is 25 watts and full info is here: http://www.jensenvintage.com/p10r.html Quote The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy P Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Hey Myles: Do you have an opinion about the Peavey ValveKing 112 Combo. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/481442/ Quote www.birdblues.com My Stuff On Sound Click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by Flashback: Ok, lets start at the beginning: 1. Can the power tube in the UniValve color the sound? 2. If so, does the testing at GTs detect abnormal coloration? 1. yes 2. higher rating tubes will stay clean longer. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by Pappy Pappadopalus: Hey Myles: Do you have an opinion about the Peavey ValveKing 112 Combo. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/481442/ Pappy, A lot of Peavey stuff is a great value. I cannot comment on this particular amp though as I have never seen one of them. Sorry. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Can you use a 35or75 watt speaker with a 25 wattin a vibrolux? Quote The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 Originally posted by Darklava: Can you use a 35or75 watt speaker with a 25 watt in a vibrolux? Yup. But make sure the speaker efficiencies of both speakers are close so they are complimentary. You want them within 3dB of each other or less. The three major speaker folks have links on my website that will take you to their sites and the pages of specs of all their speakers. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Myles, have you heard of any problems at Ampwares you could relate? I and some others are having a horriable time dealing with them, thanks..LEE Quote http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dealwithit Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 Originally posted by myles111: Actually, my avatar is always changing and a Fender amp may not be the best choice for harder rock unless used with pedals. There are a lot of great amps out there and trying to answer this here would result in a list of hundreds of amps. I would suggest going to a good music store and trying things out. Then if you have specific questions you can write back here or email me at GAB or GT. There is a lot on my GAB website in the amps section of my favorite amp folks and there are many things there that would work nicely. You can also get to my website with the more simple link of www.mylestose.com Okay, I've played alot of amps. I was hoping I could get you to take a leap of faith and recommend one amp that you think could do all that. I hear great things about Mesa/Boogie, but it's hard to find a place that has them available to play. Marshall makes a couple combos, but all I keep reading is that they overheat and are not reliable. I guess I'm still looking... Thanks for the reply though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 Originally posted by ellwood: Myles, have you heard of any problems at Ampwares you could relate? I and some others are having a horriable time dealing with them, thanks..LEE I have not dealt with them but I happen to have Ludo Pierson from Pierson amps here next to me from Flagstaff at the moment and he has dealt with them .... so I am going to turn this over to him and by the way .... his new website is up at www.pierson-amps.com Mark from Ampwares is a nice guy, however he tends to take a long time before shipping the goods, also some of the NOS Allen Bradley resistors I got were 10% instead of %5. If you are unhappy with them you can check out www.tubesandmore.com nice folks from Tempe Arizona, very efficient and super shipping. L.Pierson Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 Originally posted by dealwithit: Originally posted by myles111: Actually, my avatar is always changing and a Fender amp may not be the best choice for harder rock unless used with pedals. There are a lot of great amps out there and trying to answer this here would result in a list of hundreds of amps. I would suggest going to a good music store and trying things out. Then if you have specific questions you can write back here or email me at GAB or GT. There is a lot on my GAB website in the amps section of my favorite amp folks and there are many things there that would work nicely. You can also get to my website with the more simple link of www.mylestose.com Okay, I've played alot of amps. I was hoping I could get you to take a leap of faith and recommend one amp that you think could do all that. I hear great things about Mesa/Boogie, but it's hard to find a place that has them available to play. Marshall makes a couple combos, but all I keep reading is that they overheat and are not reliable. I guess I'm still looking... Thanks for the reply though. A lot of Guitar Center stores now sell Mesa so you may be able to them there. As far as Marshall combo amps having heat issues, I think personally they are biased too high at 90mA per duet in their 50 watt EL34 based combos and have them run a lot cooler at 75mA or so. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Hi Myles! I was putting the Fender Pro Amp together this afternoon and dropped one of the final tubes!! Do I have to replace both of em now? or can I just buy another one exactly the same?...Fumble Fingers LEE ..thanks Quote http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPCustom Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi Myles! I have a question that someone else asked me over the weekend that I don't have an answer for. Marshall used to make some solid state amps based on the 3005 amp head. It's a 12 watt head and they made both a mini-stack (2 1x10 cabs) as well as a single 1x10 combo. I guess this is two questions. 1. Is it possible to convert these SS amps into tube amps. If so, would it make any sense to try it? I know you can't just replace the power transistors with tubes. But it might make a neat probject if it's possible. These are simple amps with no effects (well, some had reverb) and only one channel (low/high gain inputs). 2. Since the 3005 head could power two 1x10 cabs could the amp section of a 5005 (which is a 3005) be used to power a 2x10 cab? Or could it be used to drive a separate 1x10 cab along with the combo? Quote Born on the Bayou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Originally posted by ellwood: Hi Myles! I was putting the Fender Pro Amp together this afternoon and dropped one of the final tubes!! Do I have to replace both of em now? or can I just buy another one exactly the same?...Fumble Fingers LEE ..thanks You need to replace the duet. Even if GT of the same tube type and same rating the 10 point scale really spans about a 200 point range so say a #6 may be 72-86 and from those they are broken down to the same matching number for a quad or duet. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Originally posted by LPCustom: Hi Myles! I have a question that someone else asked me over the weekend that I don't have an answer for. Marshall used to make some solid state amps based on the 3005 amp head. It's a 12 watt head and they made both a mini-stack (2 1x10 cabs) as well as a single 1x10 combo. I guess this is two questions. 1. Is it possible to convert these SS amps into tube amps. If so, would it make any sense to try it? I know you can't just replace the power transistors with tubes. But it might make a neat probject if it's possible. These are simple amps with no effects (well, some had reverb) and only one channel (low/high gain inputs). 2. Since the 3005 head could power two 1x10 cabs could the amp section of a 5005 (which is a 3005) be used to power a 2x10 cab? Or could it be used to drive a separate 1x10 cab along with the combo? It is possible to covert these to tube amps but it would entail keeping little more than the chassis and building something in that chassis from scratch. For one major thing, there is no output transformer. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Originally posted by myles111: Originally posted by Darklava: Myles I have a reissue Vibrolux that when the reverb is on there is a big time tube rattle going on,is this a loose tube bad tube or is this normal for this amp?Sure is anoying Lava .... Not normal at all. Probably a microphonic tube. I see your avatar is somebody that probably knows Jill (my avatar). Another "hot guitarist magazine" girl. Would this be a preamp tube causing this? also I'm looking a some GT6L6GE-5 for the vibrolux do you think this would be a good choice. Quote The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Originally posted by Darklava: Originally posted by myles111: Originally posted by Darklava: Myles I have a reissue Vibrolux that when the reverb is on there is a big time tube rattle going on,is this a loose tube bad tube or is this normal for this amp?Sure is anoying Lava .... Not normal at all. Probably a microphonic tube. I see your avatar is somebody that probably knows Jill (my avatar). Another "hot guitarist magazine" girl. Would this be a preamp tube causing this? also I'm looking a some GT6L6GE-5 for the vibrolux do you think this would be a good choice. I prefer GEs or the R2 (Svetlana) in your amp. It boils down to a preference of GE or the Sylvania which is the tube Svet copied. Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Myles, I just put in a duet of GT6L6-S and man does that amp SCREAM!!!! got em at GC... had to tunn it off though I got a bad tube loose socket an on the bass notes its cracklin like crazy..gotta somehow fix that ..when I touch it with a plastic tool it cleans right up! Quote http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 UPDATE: I fixed the loose tube and it now PERFECT!! man I forgot how good a non reverb combo amp could sound! Thanks for your help Myles..love those tubes! Quote http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myles_rose Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Originally posted by ellwood: UPDATE: I fixed the loose tube and it now PERFECT!! man I forgot how good a non reverb combo amp could sound! Thanks for your help Myles..love those tubes! Happy playing! Quote Myles S. Rose www.guitaramplifierblueprinting.com www.la-economy.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/mylesr www.twitter.com/myles111us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Yep its gonna get a great workout this Wednesday night at my Blues project rehersal! now I got the old brown sound again. Quote http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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