stepay Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'm a fan of NPR and everything, but just because they say something doesn't make it true. Everyone knows the best song ever is: She Blinded Me With Science. Steve (Stevie Ray) "Do the chickens have large talons?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundscape Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by stepay: I'm a fan of NPR and everything, but just because they say something doesn't make it true. Everyone knows the best song ever is: She Blinded Me With Science. I thought you said the 80's stank for music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Lookin' at the list I've played (make that) 48 of them at one time or another on a gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Did you include Cage's 4:33 in that list? No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundscape Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by Dave Horne: Did you include Cage's 4:33 in that list? What's that doing in it? That just sinks all remaining credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundscape Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Also, notice only three songs before 1920 are included on the list, only two from the 1980s, and one from the 1990s (1991). So is this the "The most important American musical works of the 20th century, minus a decade or four, as selected by the f*rts at NPR"...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Did you include Cage's 4:33 in that list? That's probably the only one that I could still do. That and Wildwood Flower. I could still do WF on guitar for a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundscape Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 "The most important American musical works of the 20th century" http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8906/chartzm5.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 Thanks for the chart soundscape. I'm not an NPR-type, but it does appear they agree with me as in: "compared to the tons of completely vacuous shit (pick your poison) that has passed for music in the last ten years or so, they (The Doors) come off as musical geniuses." Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by soundscape: Originally posted by Dave Horne: Did you include Cage's 4:33 in that list? What's that doing in it? That just sinks all remaining credibility. Yea, and La Bamba and Blowin' In The Wind add to the credibility? No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 The more I look at the list, the more I think it's garbage. Rather than the SONG being the criteria, it appears they made a list of important artist/composers and gave each of them one. Here's one for Cole Porter, Coltrane you get one, Sinatra here's yours, on and on. It includes everyone and offends no one. It's BS, but I could have told you that about NPR. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by linwood: Light My Fire was written and recorded in 1967. And it was more than seven minutes long. Many in the music industry were convinced it could never be a success at that length. By July 1967, it was number one in America. That's because the radio version was two minutes long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 As to the list... well, any list with "I Wanna Be Sedated" on it has at least some cred. Stravinsky's "Symphony Of Psalms" was published in the US after he moved here, but wasn't it largely written in France? Can't remember my music history exactly. And "Grand Canyon Suite"? C'mon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsu Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 .....might not have been the same vibe sitting there listening to some humbling two part counterpoint. Still making me laugh. bump "........! Try to make It..REAL! compared to what? ! ! ! " - BOPBEEPER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepay Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by soundscape: Originally posted by stepay: I'm a fan of NPR and everything, but just because they say something doesn't make it true. Everyone knows the best song ever is: She Blinded Me With Science. I thought you said the 80's stank for music? It was a joke, hence the little smiley face - Steve (Stevie Ray) "Do the chickens have large talons?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrafon Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I thought we had all previously agreed that the number 1 song of ALL time was .... drum roll please.... We Built This City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundscape Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by garrafon: I thought we had all previously agreed that the number 1 song of ALL time was .... drum roll please.... We Built This City WE BUILT THIS CITY BMI Work #1613597 Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI # LAMBERT DENNIS BMI 63629959 PAGE MARTIN ASCAP 99051584 TAUPIN BERNIE ASCAP 42309803 WOLF PETER F ASCAP 57467452 Yes, Bernie Taupin et al... what a bunch of incompetents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundscape Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by stepay: Originally posted by soundscape: Originally posted by stepay: I'm a fan of NPR and everything, but just because they say something doesn't make it true. Everyone knows the best song ever is: She Blinded Me With Science. I thought you said the 80's stank for music? It was a joke, hence the little smiley face - Oh right... well, I'm not a huge fan of Thomas Dolby... so I didn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnegrad Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 The sampled funk bass of Dolby's "Hyperactive" always knocked me out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrafon Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by soundscape: Originally posted by garrafon: I thought we had all previously agreed that the number 1 song of ALL time was .... drum roll please.... We Built This City WE BUILT THIS CITY BMI Work #1613597 Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI # LAMBERT DENNIS BMI 63629959 PAGE MARTIN ASCAP 99051584 TAUPIN BERNIE ASCAP 42309803 WOLF PETER F ASCAP 57467452 Yes, Bernie Taupin et al... what a bunch of incompetents... My comments was related to a thread from several months back concerning the "worst song ever." "We Built This City" had been rated by one group as the worst single ever constructed. http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2004-04-18-worst-songs_x.htm Stated otherwise, my comment here was a joke....hence the little smiley guy with his tongue sticking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrafon Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Further, there are plenty of musical greats who have put out a bad song or two here and there. In fact, I can think of some pretty lousy songs by just about every artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundscape Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 "We Built this City" is OK... but for me is just comes across as a slur on a whole class of 80's music, some of which I like very much. If you want some rubbish material to dismiss, try... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEcFOCOWU7U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by soundscape: If you want some rubbish material to dismiss, try... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEcFOCOWU7U OK. That's it. You've hit Rock-Bottom. I'm going to move over and stand on the other side of the line - with Dave. I was going to comment on "We Built This City", but I dint, Lucy. And I'm OK with Thomas Dolby because he and I have the same name. ...no, Lucy, NOT 'Dolby'. I think you want to see me hurl, don'tcha Mr. Soundscape? Kinda like Paris Hilton did on stage the other night after "swilling straight vodka from a Grey Goose bottle for hours." (And it was so hard to tell her 'no' when she kept calling me.) Clonkity Clonk for Paris "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundscape Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by Is There Gas in the Car?: Clonkity Clonk for Paris LOL... How about... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFN_VWWfiQs True classic or tacky beyond words? (Now that's a real "MTV era" track.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrafon Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by Is There Gas in the Car?: Originally posted by soundscape: [qb] If you want some rubbish material to dismiss, try... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEcFOCOWU7U Are you crazy? What an awesome song and even better video. I'm sure Dave would approve of its fine, highly skilled presentation. To bring this thread around full circle...what key was that version of Macarena done in?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by soundscape: True classic or tacky beyond words? (Now that's a real "MTV era" track.) Some might call it tacky, but... OK it's tacky. (I still like it though.) But, then again, I like legs. "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrafon Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I never realized how annoying that repetitive background sound is in that ZZ Top song. I wonder how much theory went into that part of the song? Dave??? :wav: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 But, then again, I like legs. Reminds me of Rodney..."I'm an ass man. Eveybody always says, Hey, you're an ass man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Thomas Dolby is disqualified from this list because he's British. But his music is better than some that are listed I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidLifeCrisis Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Originally posted by soundscape: True classic or tacky beyond words? It made me yearn for white fur on my keyboard. Steve A Lifetime of Peace, Love and Protest Music www.rock-xtreme.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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